Israel's "Absentee Property Law"

[Sally]

There were milliions and millions of displaced people after World War II who had to move thousands of miles from their original homes and learn a new language and culture, and they certainly do not whine like you. They happened to get on with their lives, and in many cases very successfully. There was no reason for the Arabs not to make these Palestinians citizens of their countries, except they wanted to keep them refugees as a thorn in Israel's side.

Don't change the subject. We are talking about Israel stealing land from its own citizens.

These people were Israelis. And Israel stole their land.

Yeah, I understand. Muslims around the world don't want anyone to think about the millions and millions of displaced people from Europe whose ancestors actually lived in those countries for thousands of years. They want everyone to think that it was only the Arabs who were the ones displaced even though the British officials in the area reported that these Arabs came in droves from their poor surrounding countries when the Jews had jobs for them. It was the same as we see today with poor Hispanics crossing our southern border and poor people from Muslim countries pouring into Europe for jobs. Sad how those Muslims from Africa get on those ricketly boats and then drown on their way to Europe.

Jews to no one's land

 

[Victory67]

Challenge. Ok.

I'll think this through.

The silence is deafening. Got any names of Israel critics who aren't "anti-Semites"?

Folks like you should stop crying wolf cause when the real wolf comes around no one will be there to care.

 

[aris2chat]

I keep seeing "absentee".
Where is the paragraph which indicates that those who didn't flee lost their property?

courts have always been open to palestinian claims of actual deeds not just people living on the land. Deeds printed in Beirut by PLO in the 70's are not legal. Deeds from ottoman or mandate archives often were compensated by the court.

The Israeli govt. knows exactly how much land was stolen from Arab owners in Israel. And they know how much of this land belongs to Arab citizens that still live in Israel and never left.

Israel had no business stealing land from Arab citizens of Israel. If they stayed in Israel and never left they should not have been declared Absentee and should have been allowed immediate return to their lands.

It appears that not only are much of the settlements built on stolen land but much of the State of Israel is also built on stolen land.

If America only knew the truth.

Most land in Israel is state owned so if Israel wants to build a road or move a town, it has that right. If it condemns a structure or poor building standards or lack of infrastructure, that is to protect the citizens.

You complain about land stealing but forget that since Oslo, palestinians have been stealing water not appropriated to them in the accord. They have also allowed their own water supplies to be contaminated and either won't or can't fix the problem of their own making. They should know water is a dear commodity in the region and should care for what little there is. Much of water Israel uses is grey water. They have learned how to make the most of the water there is. They also pump a lot from desalinization plants, both to Israelis and palestinians.

http://www.water.gov.il/Hebrew/abou...Issue_Between_Israel_and_the_Palestinians.pdf

 

[Victory67]

Most land in Israel is state owned so if Israel wants to build a road or move a town, it has that right. If it condemns a structure or poor building standards or lack of infrastructure, that is to protect the citizens.

You complain about land stealing but forget that since Oslo, palestinians have been stealing water not appropriated to them in the accord. They have also allowed their own water supplies to be contaminated and either won't or can't fix the problem of their own making. They should know water is a dear commodity in the region and should care for what little there is. Much of water Israel uses is grey water. They have learned how to make the most of the water there is. They also pump a lot from desalinization plants, both to Israelis and palestinians.

http://www.water.gov.il/Hebrew/abou...Issue_Between_Israel_and_the_Palestinians.pdf

Yes and much of that State owned land was stolen from Israeli citizens who happen to be Arabs.

 

[toastman]

Challenge. Ok.

I'll think this through.

The silence is deafening. Got any names of Israel critics who aren't "anti-Semites"?

Folks like you should stop crying wolf cause when the real wolf comes around no one will be there to care.

Crying wolf ?? WTF are you blabbing about ??

I think it's time you took a break from posting

 

[Victory67]

Crying wolf ?? WTF are you blabbing about ??

I think it's time you took a break from posting

Accusing everyone who critisizes Israel of being an anti-Semite= crying wolf.

Proved by their inability to name one single critic of Israel who isn't an "anti-Semite".

You best stop crying wolf before the real wolf comes to eat you and no one gives a shit anymore.

 

[toastman]

Crying wolf ?? WTF are you blabbing about ??

I think it's time you took a break from posting

Accusing everyone who critisizes Israel of being an anti-Semite= crying wolf.

Proved by their inability to name one single critic of Israel who isn't an "anti-Semite".

You best stop crying wolf before the real wolf comes to eat you and no one gives a shit anymore.

LOL Keep telling yourself that

I accuse people of being anti semites when they insult Judaism, not when they criticize Israel

 

[Victory67]

LOL Keep telling yourself that

I accuse people of being anti semites when they insult Judaism, not when they criticize Israel

Well then you best speak to your tribesmen here cause their constantly crying wolf is going to lead to some dead Jews someday.

 

[Sally]

LOL Keep telling yourself that

I accuse people of being anti semites when they insult Judaism, not when they criticize Israel

Well then you best speak to your tribesmen here cause their constantly crying wolf is going to lead to some dead Jews someday.

Do you think now that people can see what the Muslims are doing with regard to killing innocent people such as the Christians that this might lead to some dead Muslims some day in the countries to which they immigrated? Perhaps you had better tell members of your sect that it should be a no no to kill innocent people because of their religious beliefs.

 

[aris2chat]

Most land in Israel is state owned so if Israel wants to build a road or move a town, it has that right. If it condemns a structure or poor building standards or lack of infrastructure, that is to protect the citizens.

You complain about land stealing but forget that since Oslo, palestinians have been stealing water not appropriated to them in the accord. They have also allowed their own water supplies to be contaminated and either won't or can't fix the problem of their own making. They should know water is a dear commodity in the region and should care for what little there is. Much of water Israel uses is grey water. They have learned how to make the most of the water there is. They also pump a lot from desalinization plants, both to Israelis and palestinians.

http://www.water.gov.il/Hebrew/abou...Issue_Between_Israel_and_the_Palestinians.pdf

Yes and much of that State owned land was stolen from Israeli citizens who happen to be Arabs.

If there was ownership, then the courts will return or compensate. State land was state land before Israel became a state. It was state land under the ottoman and mandate, except land bought to become state land. Just because people lived in this or that village does not mean they had any ownership of their home or land they worked on.
Same with Bedouins now. They moved to land and have lived on it but do not own it. Towns have been build near by specifically to provide proper homes and jobs. These towns can also supply necessary services for the people rather than trying to provide for people scatters across a board area. Their animals can still have plenty of land to graze, just a short distance from the town. They are only being moves down the road a bit and consolidated in a more central location.
Bedouin through out the middle east have adapted to being moved and "urbanized" to some extent. They cannot wander across borders and fences anymore. They go to schools, get health care, jobs, internet, phone service and live in solid structure with water and sewage. Israel is not don't anything the rest of the region has not done for the Bedouin, except allow them to take advantages of the courts for the last six years.
We evolve as a species. Time for some people to grow up and join the rest of the world.
They are Israeli and deserve to be provided the same services as other Israelis. They should not be living in the poor isolated condition of a culture from the past. They have been moved before to temporary locations, for too long, and not time for more permanent ones finally.