Is This the Future of American Society too?

[JimBowie1958]

This is a very interesting article on self defense organizations in Mexico that leftwing journalists consider to be 'vigilantes' but they are really just defending themselves as best they can.

In Mexico’s Cartel Country, a Murderer Who Kills Murderers Tells His Story

“They call themselves community police, but they’re really no different from sicarios,” says Manuel Olivares, director of a Chilpancingo-based NGO called the José María Morelos y Pavón Regional Center for Human Rights. The NGO director also charges that the state government is complicit in allowing FUPCEG to operate outside the rule of law.
“Ultimately they’re enabled by the politicians,” he says. “The criminals could never carry out a campaign of terror without their support and permission. The level of corruption [in Guerrero] is just incredible. We have a government that cares only for itself.”
Bunker agrees with Olivares about “the authorities turning a blind eye to vigilante justice” in Chilpancingo.
“If the autodefensas want to engage in extrajudicial killings by means of death squads to take cartel gunmen and their other personnel off the streets it’s a freebie for the overwhelmed authorities. Cartel del Sur has a barbaric reputation as far as torture-killings and other deprivations go, so [FUPCEG operations] remove some of the hardcore criminal element plaguing the community.”
But Bunker also warns of the danger inherent in relying on civilian militias.
“Once autodefensas form they are immediately susceptible to outside criminal influences—such as cartel penetration and manipulation—or they can become corrupted by their new found position of power and become an armed gang in their own right.”​

 

[fncceo]

This is the future of law enforcement...

 

[Blackrook]

Right, you can't trust vigilante groups to not become just as bad as the criminals.

 

[Correll]

Right, you can't trust vigilante groups to not become just as bad as the criminals.

And yet, what else can citizens do, when the government is incapable of protecting them?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Right, you can't trust vigilante groups to not become just as bad as the criminals.

Sure you can by cooperating with them and incorporating them into the law enforcement system.

The only reason these vigilante groups cooperate with criminal organizations is to gain intel and logistical support. They wouldn't do that if the government supported them, the unorganized militia as was once done in America before the lawyers took over everything.

I am more of a NYPD Valentine sort of guy. I want my cops tough, ruthless to protect the public safety and hell on lawyers trying to gum up due process, lol.

 

[Indeependent]

This is a very interesting article on self defense organizations in Mexico that leftwing journalists consider to be 'vigilantes' but they are really just defending themselves as best they can.

In Mexico’s Cartel Country, a Murderer Who Kills Murderers Tells His Story

“They call themselves community police, but they’re really no different from sicarios,” says Manuel Olivares, director of a Chilpancingo-based NGO called the José María Morelos y Pavón Regional Center for Human Rights. The NGO director also charges that the state government is complicit in allowing FUPCEG to operate outside the rule of law.
“Ultimately they’re enabled by the politicians,” he says. “The criminals could never carry out a campaign of terror without their support and permission. The level of corruption [in Guerrero] is just incredible. We have a government that cares only for itself.”
Bunker agrees with Olivares about “the authorities turning a blind eye to vigilante justice” in Chilpancingo.
“If the autodefensas want to engage in extrajudicial killings by means of death squads to take cartel gunmen and their other personnel off the streets it’s a freebie for the overwhelmed authorities. Cartel del Sur has a barbaric reputation as far as torture-killings and other deprivations go, so [FUPCEG operations] remove some of the hardcore criminal element plaguing the community.”
But Bunker also warns of the danger inherent in relying on civilian militias.
“Once autodefensas form they are immediately susceptible to outside criminal influences—such as cartel penetration and manipulation—or they can become corrupted by their new found position of power and become an armed gang in their own right.”​

Mexico is a Libertarian’s paradise.
That means you buy what you need, including your own police force.