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Is there such thing as "universal morality"?
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It isn’t accelerating towards something if that is what you are trying to get at. Everything is moving away from everything else.In a closed system maybe. So what is powering the increasing expansion?Not possible. What is adding energy to the universe?Yes.Will useable energy increase?
Yes that's the latest evidence
The Big Bang expansion is not slowing down but instead speeding up .. There must be a force pulling them away. Most scientists thought that Big Bang elements would later fall back on itself like any explosion
GreenAndBlue
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No one knows if there are multiple universes. They only postulated that because they extrapolated from the creation of ours.Every universe in the multiverse model has a beginning. If there are other universes, I don’t see anything inconsistent as they each had to have a beginning.There is much we don't know about the universe and it may be that it has a creator (on this I'm agnostic)Atheists had to try to recover when science proves all this had a beginning
So they brought out multi universes there never ends or begins
The only real science is this universe which science has proven to have a beginning which proves a creator
There is much we don't know about God and it may be that he was created too.
The universe had a beginning that's the key science finding
The top atheist scientist of 50 yrs Anthony Flew changed his view simply because of the evidence
He said any modern scientist that's now an atheist is simply dishonest .. As a scientist one must follow the evidence As he did
But the dishonest atheists would not change and brought multi universes with no beginning or ending but without EVIDENCE. As Grest Britains Anthony FLew says
He was upset wit Dawkins who did not change because of the evidence and saw Dawkins as simply dishonest !!
Plus why would atheists cut their own throat with a no hope view point as their immune system brings them misery and pain and death for that view
Many houses are in one universe
many different houses does not mean many universes
No evidence or logic supports many universes
But if there are I don’t have a problem with it.
All of our evidence comes from this universe only
Because it happened once they think it can happen again
Everything that happens has happened before even in this universe
Human life that is made to search for and find God has only happened this one time
Because something has happened once does not mean it will again
Human advancement has come only one time . With trillions of life forms this type advancement should come many times if the creator did not create all this for a plan with humans ...but none have repeated this
Even the genes of other creatures were pre wired NOT to mutate to lessen or stop humans increasing dominance
The bible has the best of all theories that works with what we know
No. There mustn’t necessarily be a force accelerating the expansion. In fact, it is unlikely that there is a mystery force that has never been detected even though this mysterious force is almost 6 times greater than what we know about.It isn’t accelerating towards something if that is what you are trying to get at. Everything is moving away from everything else.In a closed system maybe. So what is powering the increasing expansion?Not possible. What is adding energy to the universe?Yes.Will useable energy increase?
Yes that's the latest evidence
The Big Bang expansion is not slowing down but instead speeding up .. There must be a force pulling them away. Most scientists thought that Big Bang elements would later fall back on itself like any explosion
The most likely explanation is an error in measurement. The universe is flat. It’s like a ripple on a pond. It’s going to expand forever. It will continue expanding trillions upon trillions of years and eventually will go cold.
But none of that has anything to do with the fact that the universe was created and that man is a product of that creation just like Genesis chapters 1& 2 tell us.
Why must it only happen once?No one knows if there are multiple universes. They only postulated that because they extrapolated from the creation of ours.Every universe in the multiverse model has a beginning. If there are other universes, I don’t see anything inconsistent as they each had to have a beginning.There is much we don't know about the universe and it may be that it has a creator (on this I'm agnostic)
There is much we don't know about God and it may be that he was created too.
The universe had a beginning that's the key science finding
The top atheist scientist of 50 yrs Anthony Flew changed his view simply because of the evidence
He said any modern scientist that's now an atheist is simply dishonest .. As a scientist one must follow the evidence As he did
But the dishonest atheists would not change and brought multi universes with no beginning or ending but without EVIDENCE. As Grest Britains Anthony FLew says
He was upset wit Dawkins who did not change because of the evidence and saw Dawkins as simply dishonest !!
Plus why would atheists cut their own throat with a no hope view point as their immune system brings them misery and pain and death for that view
Many houses are in one universe
many different houses does not mean many universes
No evidence or logic supports many universes
But if there are I don’t have a problem with it.
All of our evidence comes from this universe only
Because it happened once they think it can happen again
Everything that happens has happened before even in this universe
Human life that is made to search for and find God has only happened this one time
Because something has happened once does not mean it will again
Human advancement has come only one time . With trillions of life forms this type advancement should come many times if the creator did not create all this for a plan with humans ...but none have repeated this
Even the genes of other creatures were pre wired NOT to mutate to lessen or stop humans increasing dominance
The bible has the best of all theories that works with what we know
Seems like you are limiting God.
LittleNipper
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God reveals clearly in the book of Revelation that this Universe will pass away and that He will create a NEW heaven and a NEW earth. So no, this Universe isn't the one for all eternity.Why must it only happen once?No one knows if there are multiple universes. They only postulated that because they extrapolated from the creation of ours.Every universe in the multiverse model has a beginning. If there are other universes, I don’t see anything inconsistent as they each had to have a beginning.The universe had a beginning that's the key science finding
The top atheist scientist of 50 yrs Anthony Flew changed his view simply because of the evidence
He said any modern scientist that's now an atheist is simply dishonest .. As a scientist one must follow the evidence As he did
But the dishonest atheists would not change and brought multi universes with no beginning or ending but without EVIDENCE. As Grest Britains Anthony FLew says
He was upset wit Dawkins who did not change because of the evidence and saw Dawkins as simply dishonest !!
Plus why would atheists cut their own throat with a no hope view point as their immune system brings them misery and pain and death for that view
Many houses are in one universe
many different houses does not mean many universes
No evidence or logic supports many universes
But if there are I don’t have a problem with it.
All of our evidence comes from this universe only
Because it happened once they think it can happen again
Everything that happens has happened before even in this universe
Human life that is made to search for and find God has only happened this one time
Because something has happened once does not mean it will again
Human advancement has come only one time . With trillions of life forms this type advancement should come many times if the creator did not create all this for a plan with humans ...but none have repeated this
Even the genes of other creatures were pre wired NOT to mutate to lessen or stop humans increasing dominance
The bible has the best of all theories that works with what we know
Seems like you are limiting God.
You need to stop reading it literally.God reveals clearly in the book of Revelation that this Universe will pass away and that He will create a NEW heaven and a NEW earth. So no, this Universe isn't the one for all eternity.Why must it only happen once?No one knows if there are multiple universes. They only postulated that because they extrapolated from the creation of ours.Every universe in the multiverse model has a beginning. If there are other universes, I don’t see anything inconsistent as they each had to have a beginning.
Many houses are in one universe
many different houses does not mean many universes
No evidence or logic supports many universes
But if there are I don’t have a problem with it.
All of our evidence comes from this universe only
Because it happened once they think it can happen again
Everything that happens has happened before even in this universe
Human life that is made to search for and find God has only happened this one time
Because something has happened once does not mean it will again
Human advancement has come only one time . With trillions of life forms this type advancement should come many times if the creator did not create all this for a plan with humans ...but none have repeated this
Even the genes of other creatures were pre wired NOT to mutate to lessen or stop humans increasing dominance
The bible has the best of all theories that works with what we know
Seems like you are limiting God.
GreenAndBlue
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Why must it only happen once?No one knows if there are multiple universes. They only postulated that because they extrapolated from the creation of ours.Every universe in the multiverse model has a beginning. If there are other universes, I don’t see anything inconsistent as they each had to have a beginning.The universe had a beginning that's the key science finding
The top atheist scientist of 50 yrs Anthony Flew changed his view simply because of the evidence
He said any modern scientist that's now an atheist is simply dishonest .. As a scientist one must follow the evidence As he did
But the dishonest atheists would not change and brought multi universes with no beginning or ending but without EVIDENCE. As Grest Britains Anthony FLew says
He was upset wit Dawkins who did not change because of the evidence and saw Dawkins as simply dishonest !!
Plus why would atheists cut their own throat with a no hope view point as their immune system brings them misery and pain and death for that view
Many houses are in one universe
many different houses does not mean many universes
No evidence or logic supports many universes
But if there are I don’t have a problem with it.
All of our evidence comes from this universe only
Because it happened once they think it can happen again
Everything that happens has happened before even in this universe
Human life that is made to search for and find God has only happened this one time
Because something has happened once does not mean it will again
Human advancement has come only one time . With trillions of life forms this type advancement should come many times if the creator did not create all this for a plan with humans ...but none have repeated this
Even the genes of other creatures were pre wired NOT to mutate to lessen or stop humans increasing dominance
The bible has the best of all theories that works with what we know
Seems like you are limiting God.
When something happens only once then one can see the plan
From much data we see a one time thing about life and humans
GreenAndBlue
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God reveals clearly in the book of Revelation that this Universe will pass away and that He will create a NEW heaven and a NEW earth. So no, this Universe isn't the one for all eternity.Why must it only happen once?No one knows if there are multiple universes. They only postulated that because they extrapolated from the creation of ours.Every universe in the multiverse model has a beginning. If there are other universes, I don’t see anything inconsistent as they each had to have a beginning.
Many houses are in one universe
many different houses does not mean many universes
No evidence or logic supports many universes
But if there are I don’t have a problem with it.
All of our evidence comes from this universe only
Because it happened once they think it can happen again
Everything that happens has happened before even in this universe
Human life that is made to search for and find God has only happened this one time
Because something has happened once does not mean it will again
Human advancement has come only one time . With trillions of life forms this type advancement should come many times if the creator did not create all this for a plan with humans ...but none have repeated this
Even the genes of other creatures were pre wired NOT to mutate to lessen or stop humans increasing dominance
The bible has the best of all theories that works with what we know
Seems like you are limiting God.
And the DNA code. Is the real name for all creatures and humans
And from that all humans that has ever gone to the conception stage has a DNA name that may be able to reproduce in heaven. All people could see and enjoy themselves in each of the ages that the DNA code name can go to
A person can be 1 or 100 instantly
Seems like one human has all the DNA of all humans ever lived
The DNA of all people may can be extracted from a single person
zaangalewa
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Why would I?Have you ever seriously considered the possibility that spirit created the material world?
Because something exists - what makes not any sense - and this what exists - whatever it is and however it is - shows us structures everywhere in this part of the world which we are able to examine. And this world shows us entropie too (="neginformation"). And entropie has a lot to do with energy. And energy is the same like matter.
...
or on any other reason.
"In the beginning was the word"
Anton Zeilinger
I think there is a need for something completely new. Something that is too different, too unexpected, to be accepted as yet.
Anton Zeilinger
God is always new - and his ways are often surprising.
Millions or billions of Christians
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Where does the energy to accelerate the motion of galaxies come from?It isn’t accelerating towards something if that is what you are trying to get at. Everything is moving away from everything else.In a closed system maybe. So what is powering the increasing expansion?Not possible. What is adding energy to the universe?Yes.Will useable energy increase?
With no evidence or logic put on evidence and data ... That is nothing more than a possibility based on nothingAnd the DNA code. Is the real name for all creatures and humans
And from that all humans that has ever gone to the conception stage has a DNA name that may be able to reproduce in heaven. All people could see and enjoy themselves in each of the ages that the DNA code name can go to
A person can be 1 or 100 instantly
Seems like one human has all the DNA of all humans ever lived
The DNA of all people may can be extracted from a single person
You're missing a dimension since it is impossible to visualize warped space. If the universe were a disk there would be a visible 'milky way'.
The creation of time and space itself. Started off as subatomic particles and began to expand and cool. At which point hydrogen and helium formed from the cosmic soup of subatomic particles.Where does the energy to accelerate the motion of galaxies come from?It isn’t accelerating towards something if that is what you are trying to get at. Everything is moving away from everything else.In a closed system maybe. So what is powering the increasing expansion?Not possible. What is adding energy to the universe?Yes.Will useable energy increase?
But I am not convinced the expansion is accelerating.
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It’s not a two dimensional disk.You're missing a dimension since it is impossible to visualize warped space. If the universe were a disk there would be a visible 'milky way'.
You posted a graphic the other day which showed the flatness of the universe. Mind you it is flat compared to a sphere. Not flat like a sheet of paper.
See where it says “present?”
See how the universe is represented as being flat?
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"Anything outside of our space and time has no effect on our universe." I called the Nobel committee, you should be getting a call soon.I don’t see it. Space and time being warped is a product of relativity. It is literally the foundation of our understanding of the universe.Re-read your post, you claimed something science doesn't know for sure. Again!How can you not know that space time is warped by mass and energy?You really do believe you've discovered that.Because space time is warped. You can’t reach a boundary. Anything outside of our space and time has no effect on our universe.If you don't know what it is how do you know where it comes from? If inside, doesn't it violate thermodynamics?
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The only problem is that they are going to want some actual proof."Anything outside of our space and time has no effect on our universe." I called the Nobel committee, you should be getting a call soon.I don’t see it. Space and time being warped is a product of relativity. It is literally the foundation of our understanding of the universe.Re-read your post, you claimed something science doesn't know for sure. Again!How can you not know that space time is warped by mass and energy?You really do believe you've discovered that.Because space time is warped. You can’t reach a boundary. Anything outside of our space and time has no effect on our universe.
How do you propose obtaining evidence for something outside of space and time?The only problem is that they are going to want some actual proof."Anything outside of our space and time has no effect on our universe." I called the Nobel committee, you should be getting a call soon.I don’t see it. Space and time being warped is a product of relativity. It is literally the foundation of our understanding of the universe.Re-read your post, you claimed something science doesn't know for sure. Again!How can you not know that space time is warped by mass and energy?You really do believe you've discovered that.
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