A logical, simple truth with profound meaning

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    There cannot be an infinite regression of causes; there must be a single, uncaused cause.
     
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    Ah..the first cause theory. Which states, just because.

    *nods sagely*
     
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    And,if you had done anything without any restictions on you not to do so.would you have still done so or not?
     
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    The prevailing theory is that the first event to occur in our universe was the "big bang". Who or what caused it?
     
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    Why? Why is an infinite regression any less plausible than an uncaused cause?
     
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    Indeed. When you work back to a beginning, there must be cause.

    What created the state of existence? It could not have come from nothing, because with nothing, nothing exists.
     
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    It's simple logic. If you cannot follow this simple logic, then you are unable to understand even rudimentary concepts.
     
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    There are some "initial conditions" that we dont yet have the tools to measure or observe or explain. And all that needs to be taken on faith.

    Just as the Big Bang itself needs to be actually taken on faith.. Because no scientist can rationalize all of the energy, matter in the universe existing at a single point in space. Not with a trillion stars, a billion celestial bodies and all the energy needed to create them and put them in their place in an infinite universe.
     
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    An objective person might likely believe that it's likely that there is an intelligent being outside of our universe that is that "uncaused cause". Atheists will argue that, unless one can prove that the aforementioned "intelligent being outside of our universe" exists, that it can then be assumed that no such being actually exists. They'll say "we don't know" but that doesn't mean it was "God". Atheists demand absolute PROOF. In many things in life, decisions are made on information that falls short of that doctrine. There is the concept of "the preponderance of the evidence", which atheists presumably accept in all other facets of life, but not when it comes to the possibility of "God". Atheists will then, often times, mock believers with the "sky fairy" rhetoric while simultaneously accepting any theory so long as it doesn't involve the possibility of an intelligent creator.
     
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    Faith is the key word. But logic tells us that there HAD to be an uncaused cause, aka "the first cause". Something, or someone, had to give that first domino (so to speak) that initial push to get it all started. Does anyone here deny this?

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