Is The Term 'White Supremacist' Unfair?

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    What if you're white and don't like affirmative action, etc., but you're not an actual neo-Nazi?

    Occidental Observer

    Most white advocates seek a general right of group self-determination that at most involves non-involvement with other racial groups, especially coercive involvement. Forced busing, affirmative action, immigration and non-discrimination laws are all examples of coercion that are opposed by white advocates.

    In other words, they wish to simply decline the demands of other racial groups. That's "supremacy"? That's like calling a woman who refuses a man's sexual advances a "female supremacist."

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    I might also propose that black or Hispanic groups be called "black advocacy" or "Hispanic advocacy" groups, instead of the partisan-sounding "civil rights group." Really? "La Raza" is concerned about everyone's civil rights? Please.
     
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    Supremacism goes beyond neo-Nazism.

    Whites who are opposed to racial privilege are not supremacists, unless they support whites having privileges that exceed those of other groups.

    I feel like AA has run its course and should be discontinued, but I am far from a white supremacist.

    Neo-nazism is a somewhat separate, but related movement.
    Most neo nazis are white supremacists, but not all white supremacists are neo nazis.

    One thing that has bothered me recently is attempts by the SPLC and the ADL to link the anti-immigration movement to white supremacy and neo-nazism. There are a LOT of Americans who are opposed to the current U.S. system of immigration who are in no way racist. I am opposed to AA and also to rampant illegal immigration, but I definitely don't consider myself a racist.
     
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    You should be called White Racist Douche Bags Living in the 19th Century!

    By the way there are a lot of Black Supremacists aka the New Black Panthers, Black Guerilla Army, Nation of Islam and NAACP. And Latino Supremacist like Brown Berredas, La Raza, La Mecha and Atlzan.

    There are even White Leftist Supremacist, perfect example is of leftist supremacy is Shogun!

    Note you don't have to be a racist to be against illegal immigration or La Raza! See Rosanna Pulido, a Mexican American running for Rahmbos open seat in Chicago!

     
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    The automatic presumption that every White who objects to racist laws or the application of laws that is racist, makes one a White Supremicist is liberal bullshit.

    Personally, I suspected that the original application of Affirmative Actions laws was designed to widen the rife between poor white and poor minorities.

    And it worked splendidly to do just that, too, didn't it?

    After all who actually suffers if AA laws (or their application) is racist?

    Poor White Males, mostly, and those who depend on them, too.

    And who was the greatest beneficary class of those laws as they were once applied?

    Upper middle class White women, far more than Blacks or other minorities.

    Why?

    Because those laws were applied based on race and gender rather than on actual need.

    I don't know if it's still the case, but I remember when, when I tallied up all the classes of people who were to be given succor through AA laws, what Idiscovered is that the ONLY people who would not be given help getting government contracts (this I learned as I was considering becoming a real estate appraiser for the FEDS) was...get this

    ONLY WHITE MALES and MALES of ARAB desent.

    FYI, that was the policy of the Federal Government in about 1994 or so.

    Have things changed since then?

    I really don't know.

    But then, everybody else on earth, based on ethnic or race or gender, was to be given extra consideration but those two classes of people.

    That's not racist and genderist, too?!
     
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    Affirmative Action was a secret conspiracy by white women to put you under our stiletto heels like the dogs you are!!!111!!!!

    ooops. Got a little froth on my chin.
     
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    Aren't you forgetting Zionism?

    Which, by the way, I oppose only in so far as it hurts whites. Racial nationalism of any kind, I believe, is inherently legitimate.
     
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    Nope, zionism is needed because of bigots like you!

    Wait hold back up stop the press, you are against Zionism! What I would have never thought! Some dumb redneck like you make no sense. you want to Jews to go to some distant Island and when they do and make it a modern regional economic powerhouse, you cry foul. See douche bags, like yourself do not know what you want.

    You are many times like the Blacks racist who you are complaining about. Black racist say each and everything is the white man's fault. They say this an excuse for their own failures. They don't want to point the finger at themselves, so they point it at the white man. You do the exact same thing with Blacks, Jews and Latinos!
     
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    You don't follow my posts. I've never blamed whites' problems exclusively on any group, and I've often said our own biggest enemy is ourselves.

    I also didn't say I was "against Zionism." I said I was against it in so far as it HURTS WHITES, but as to the Jewish project of a homeland, I get it. Surely that's not too subtle a difference for you to grasp.

    I'm also not a "dumb redneck." Hate me all you want, but neither epithet applies to me.
     
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    Definition from dictionary -


    Yes, it is unfair because it is racist and wrong.
     
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    If you could you would ship all the Jews, Latino, Blacks, Arabs, Indians, Native Americans, Asian Americans and Gays off to some distant land outside of America. I would say that puts you in the dumb redneck category!

    And I don't hate you, I pity you!
     
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