Is Real Peace in Palestine Even Possible?

[P F Tinmore]

Laws vary from people to people----in fact the American Indians did not
actually have a notion of OWNING LAND-----they owned their things and
belonged to a tribe. Tinnie is shariah adherent---he defines all land in
the MIDDLE EAST AS "MUSLIM LAND" ---ie OWNED by the UMMAH----in
case of a CALIPHATE -----the caliph essentially OWNS all the land which
is not owned privately by a muslim Land ownership ---under islamic law
does not exist for NON MUSLIMS

Not true.

Christians own a lot of land in Palestine. At least that that has not been stolen yet by Israel.

 

[irosie91]

Laws vary from people to people----in fact the American Indians did not
actually have a notion of OWNING LAND-----they owned their things and
belonged to a tribe. Tinnie is shariah adherent---he defines all land in
the MIDDLE EAST AS "MUSLIM LAND" ---ie OWNED by the UMMAH----in
case of a CALIPHATE -----the caliph essentially OWNS all the land which
is not owned privately by a muslim Land ownership ---under islamic law
does not exist for NON MUSLIMS

Not true.

Christians own a lot of land in Palestine. At least that that has not been stolen yet by Israel.

what a joke you are tinnie once the filth of shariah takes hold----the christians will be dhimmies as you well know-----and their children will be subject to CONFISCATION AND ENSLAVEMENT just as your fellow pigs enslaved SUDANESE CHRISTIAN CHILDREN AND RAPED THEM TO YOUR DELIGHT you are disgusting may all the children close to you be ENSLAVED AND RAPED UNDER THE LAWS YOU ADVOCATE ------you disgusting dog

for those who forgot---my own mother-in-law was rescued from sexual slavery under the ddisgusting filth that dogs like tinnie and sherri advocate for more information google DHIMMI ORPHAN LAW the perversity which excites dog and whores like tinnie and sherri

 

[georgephillip]

Is your alleged mother-in-law another hasbara hack like you?

 

[irosie91]

Is your alleged mother-in-law another hasbara hack like you?

she is dead your comment is vulgar ----ir your mother-in-law still a gutter whore like the rest of the sluts with whom you consort?. The DHIMMI orphan law is a serious matter----it is the basis for the LEGAL ENSLAVEMENT of tens of thousands of christians in the Sudan. In islamic law----a child without a father who is not a MUSLIM----can be claimed
by any muslim who wishes to do so. The LOGIC is impeccable----the idea is based on the concept that all children are BORN MUSLIM----they can be raised as non muslims if
they have a DHIMMI FATHER-----but once they lose that father by DEATH ---either of
natural causes of murder----they become a child with no LEGAL GUARDIAN. Since the islamic court FAVORS muslims over non muslims in all cases of CHILD CUSTODY----any muslim male can claim the child even over the child's natural mother or any non muslim relative -----believe it or not-----this is actually an islamic law observed in shariah shit holes.
Muslims DEFEND is -----as being in the BEST INTERESTS OF THE "ORPHANED" child

 

[eots]

What is your point LUMP OF SHIT?----some jewish leaders tried to circle
the wagons in response to THE FILTH OF LUMPS OF SHIT LIKE YOU.
that as 1936 ----try to learn some history----your ***god*** adolf

abu ali was not seen as a threat to you and your fellow lumps of shit
or any other country at that time and your fellow lumps of shit had
no problem at all with his PHILOSOPHY------even the catholic church
was ready to lick his ass The muslims were the most avid ass

lickers ----since to that point his agenda was mainly focused on
smashing the heads of jewish infants against stone walls-----and BESIDES
his NUREMBURG LAWS were very much derived from the same source
the muslims used to create DHIMMIA and legalize GENOCIDE, RAPE,


and ENSLAVEMENT

for those unaware----KHARTOUM legalized genocide and enslavement
of children using the same set of laws to the delight of all the nazi

pigs of the world Even the armenian genocide was based on that.
no wonder they are so excited
"legal" code

iro, you admitted the you're racist towards arabs, that's why you'd never live in Israel, too many arabs. So calm down already, it's ok, you made it, you're the zionist "loinboy".

Ima ---try again----I am not racist toward arabs-----besides---IF I DID LIVE IN
ISRAEL----I would be living in a house not so close to an ARAB ENCLAVE walking
distance from my house right here in the USA

My comment was in memory of a family story once told to me by an
elderly Israeli man----who was ----like hubby ---born in a shariah shit-hole
HE left the shariah shit hole as a very little kid ----sometime in the 1920s
with his parents and several sibs----and ended up in Palestine-----one day
he heard his parents arguing------his mother said to his father
"YOU PROMISED MY FATHER_---IF HE LET ME COME HERE WITH
YOU ---I WOULD NEVER HAVE TO SEE ANOTHER ARAB AGAIN....
I SEE THEM EVERY DAY----I AM GOING BACK TO MY PARENTS"

so the family moved to jerusalem----where there were far less arabs

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[georgephillip]

Is your alleged mother-in-law another hasbara hack like you?

she is dead your comment is vulgar ----ir your mother-in-law still a gutter whore like the rest of the sluts with whom you consort?. The DHIMMI orphan law is a serious matter----it is the basis for the LEGAL ENSLAVEMENT of tens of thousands of christians in the Sudan. In islamic law----a child without a father who is not a MUSLIM----can be claimed
by any muslim who wishes to do so. The LOGIC is impeccable----the idea is based on the concept that all children are BORN MUSLIM----they can be raised as non muslims if
they have a DHIMMI FATHER-----but once they lose that father by DEATH ---either of
natural causes of murder----they become a child with no LEGAL GUARDIAN. Since the islamic court FAVORS muslims over non muslims in all cases of CHILD CUSTODY----any muslim male can claim the child even over the child's natural mother or any non muslim relative -----believe it or not-----this is actually an islamic law observed in shariah shit holes.
Muslims DEFEND is -----as being in the BEST INTERESTS OF THE "ORPHANED" child

You know what's really vulgar? Hasbara hacks whose nation and state murder, maim, displace, and incarcerate millions of innocent Muslims on the opposite side of the globe shedding kosher crocodile tears over Sudanese orphans. Clean your own stye first, you pathetic Zionist whore.

 

[docmauser1]

You know what's really vulgar? Hasbara hacks whose nation and state murder, maim, displace, and incarcerate millions of innocent Muslims on the opposite side of the globe shedding kosher crocodile tears over Sudanese orphans.

Or funny individuals making this up, of course.

 

[irosie91]

You know what's really vulgar? Hasbara hacks whose nation and state murder, maim, displace, and incarcerate millions of innocent Muslims on the opposite side of the globe shedding kosher crocodile tears over Sudanese orphans.

Or funny individuals making this up, of course.

georgie is breaking down into a pile of meccaist shit Historically---it is true that MILLIONS have been destroyed in genocides----in fact HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS ---by meccaist dogs The standard of living of the average person who calls himself a "palestinian" ----is far better than that of the average muslim WORLD WIDE. In fact
it began to IMPROVE in 1967. Anyone interested---find an HONEST person born in Gaza---who can remember what life was like pre 1967

mecca monkeys murdered some two million in Sudan and still hold children in brutal slavery to the delight of georgie -----and his perverted cheer leader----sherri

 

[pbel]

Not according to Pat Buchanan:

"Is there any treaty that could be agreed to, or imposed, that would be acceptable to Israel and the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank, let alone to Hamas, which has emerged from its defiance of one of the most intensive bombardments of modern time with new prestige?

"What are the obvious impediments to such a treaty?

"First, Bibi Netanyahu, who has presided over the expansion of Israel settlements and joined Avigdor Lieberman, a supporter of ethnic cleansing of Israeli Arabs, in a coalition of the Israeli hard right.

"Would Bibi agree to a treaty that required removal of scores of thousands of Israeli settlers from Judea and Samaria, when he opposed Ariel Sharon’s withdrawal of a few thousand settlers from Gaza?

"Would Bibi agree to Jerusalem becoming the capital of Palestine as well as Israel, a non-negotiable demand of Arab nations?

"Could a Palestinian Authority that gives up all rights to Jerusalem survive?"

A Mirage of Mideast Peace | The American Conservative

How would American national interests be undermined by staying out of a conflict we have no chance of resolving?

It is pretty clear that Pat Buchanan knows what he is talking about…the Israeli Right has hijacked Zionism and is leading Israel towards a path of continuous war with Islam that in the long-run she can not win…

All the bravado shown by these Right Wingers is that Might makes Right that even Israel’s staunch supporters are beginning to leave her. The UN vote is a sign that her legitimacy to the occupied territories is not recognized by even her friends….

Buchannan is correct. The politicians in Israel have put themselves in a tight box that created facts on the ground that they can not give up.

The War of Attrition will continue until the Right Wing is defeated at the ballot box, hopefully before a devastating war that destroys both peoples.

Its getting ugly.

 

[docmauser1]

It is pretty cleat that Pat Buchanan knows what he is talking about…the Israeli Right has hijacked Zionism and is leading Israel towards a path of continuous war with Islam that in the long-run she can not win…All the bravado shown by these Right Wingers is that Might makes Right that even Israel’s staunch supporters are beginning to leave her. The UN vote is a sign that her legitimacy to the occupied territories is not recognized by even her friends….Buchannan is correct. The politicians in Israel have put themselves in a tight box that created facts on the ground that they can not give up. The War of Attrition will continue until the Right Wing is defeated at the ballot box, hopefully before a devastating war that destroys both peoples. Its getting ugly.

Hilarious drivel.

 

[CMike]

Buchanan is a moron.

 

[Hossfly]

Buchanan is a moron.

You appropriated my line, CMike!

 

[georgephillip]

You both put the CON in confused.

 

[georgephillip]

Not according to Pat Buchanan:

"Is there any treaty that could be agreed to, or imposed, that would be acceptable to Israel and the Palestinian Authority on the West Bank, let alone to Hamas, which has emerged from its defiance of one of the most intensive bombardments of modern time with new prestige?

"What are the obvious impediments to such a treaty?

"First, Bibi Netanyahu, who has presided over the expansion of Israel settlements and joined Avigdor Lieberman, a supporter of ethnic cleansing of Israeli Arabs, in a coalition of the Israeli hard right.

"Would Bibi agree to a treaty that required removal of scores of thousands of Israeli settlers from Judea and Samaria, when he opposed Ariel Sharon’s withdrawal of a few thousand settlers from Gaza?

"Would Bibi agree to Jerusalem becoming the capital of Palestine as well as Israel, a non-negotiable demand of Arab nations?

"Could a Palestinian Authority that gives up all rights to Jerusalem survive?"

A Mirage of Mideast Peace | The American Conservative

How would American national interests be undermined by staying out of a conflict we have no chance of resolving?

It is pretty clear that Pat Buchanan knows what he is talking about…the Israeli Right has hijacked Zionism and is leading Israel towards a path of continuous war with Islam that in the long-run she can not win…

All the bravado shown by these Right Wingers is that Might makes Right that even Israel’s staunch supporters are beginning to leave her. The UN vote is a sign that her legitimacy to the occupied territories is not recognized by even her friends….

Buchannan is correct. The politicians in Israel have put themselves in a tight box that created facts on the ground that they can not give up.

The War of Attrition will continue until the Right Wing is defeated at the ballot box, hopefully before a devastating war that destroys both peoples.

Its getting ugly.

Israel's best kept non-secret could make it a whole lot uglier.

The Jewish State controls scores if not hundreds of nuclear weapons and the ability to deliver them from air, land, and sea. If democracy prevails in Palestine and thousands of Jews are forced to leave the land their "G-d" promised them forever, look out for Samson's Complex Over Jerusalem.

"Samson's complex is viewed as a deep-seated, characterological defect, stemming from faulty object relations and leading to existential despair and suicidal longing."

 

[irosie91]

No country in the world which is a target of ISLAMIC IMPERIALISM can live in peace.
----another example is INDIA also NIGERIA also KENYA also LEBANON also EGYPT lots of those little places out east-----those ..STANS

France is descending into the cosmic cesspool of islamic imperialism ----and lately Turkey has RETROGRESSED

 

[pbel]

No country in the world which is a target of ISLAMIC IMPERIALISM can live in peace.
----another example is INDIA also NIGERIA also KENYA also LEBANON also EGYPT lots of those little places out east-----those ..STANS

France is descending into the cosmic cesspool of islamic imperialism ----and lately Turkey has RETROGRESSED

What is the alternative to a peace that is acceptable? Constant friction for a hundred, two hundred years until the nukes fly from all directions? Not to mention the economic costs for the vigilance needed.

The only hope is that Israel is accepted by Islam as co-religious believers in one and the same god and work on your similarities and bridge the mistrust and hate.

 

[Hossfly]

No country in the world which is a target of ISLAMIC IMPERIALISM can live in peace.
----another example is INDIA also NIGERIA also KENYA also LEBANON also EGYPT lots of those little places out east-----those ..STANS

France is descending into the cosmic cesspool of islamic imperialism ----and lately Turkey has RETROGRESSED

What is the alternative to a peace that is acceptable? Constant friction for a hundred, two hundred years until the nukes fly from all directions? Not to mention the economic costs for the vigilance needed.

The only hope is that Israel is accepted by Islam as co-religious believers in one and the same god and work on your similarities and bridge the mistrust and hate.

This oughta be interesting.

 

[irosie91]

Peeballs fell for the NAZISM OF THE RULE OF THE MONOTHEISTS

I forgot what the saudi nazi pigs call that movement----ANYONE?

 

[toomuchtime_]

No country in the world which is a target of ISLAMIC IMPERIALISM can live in peace.
----another example is INDIA also NIGERIA also KENYA also LEBANON also EGYPT lots of those little places out east-----those ..STANS

France is descending into the cosmic cesspool of islamic imperialism ----and lately Turkey has RETROGRESSED

What is the alternative to a peace that is acceptable? Constant friction for a hundred, two hundred years until the nukes fly from all directions? Not to mention the economic costs for the vigilance needed.

The only hope is that Israel is accepted by Islam as co-religious believers in one and the same god and work on your similarities and bridge the mistrust and hate.

Where do you get this stuff from? None of the Arab nations are interested in war with Israel and Iran will be taken care of one way or another.

The Jews don't have to be accepted as co-religionists with the Arabs, the Arabs have to get over their xenophobia just as the Christians, with the exception of some posters on this board, have if they want to move out of the middle ages into the 21st century. Israel already has long established peaceful relations with nearly all the Arab states and as these societies mature, this situation will continue to improve.

You seem to be assuming that the Muslim Arab cultures will not evolve, but you only have to look back a few centuries to see Christians in Europe slaughtering one another over minor doctrinal differences in their beliefs and slaughtering or enslaving just about anyone else who was different from them. There is no reason to assume Muslim Arabs won't follow this same path.

 

[pbel]

No country in the world which is a target of ISLAMIC IMPERIALISM can live in peace.
----another example is INDIA also NIGERIA also KENYA also LEBANON also EGYPT lots of those little places out east-----those ..STANS

France is descending into the cosmic cesspool of islamic imperialism ----and lately Turkey has RETROGRESSED

What is the alternative to a peace that is acceptable? Constant friction for a hundred, two hundred years until the nukes fly from all directions? Not to mention the economic costs for the vigilance needed.

The only hope is that Israel is accepted by Islam as co-religious believers in one and the same god and work on your similarities and bridge the mistrust and hate.

Where do you get this stuff from? None of the Arab nations are interested in war with Israel and Iran will be taken care of one way or another.

The Jews don't have to be accepted as co-religionists with the Arabs, the Arabs have to get over their xenophobia just as the Christians, with the exception of some posters on this board, have if they want to move out of the middle ages into the 21st century. Israel already has long established peaceful relations with nearly all the Arab states and as these societies mature, this situation will continue to improve.
You seem to be assuming that the Muslim Arab cultures will not evolve, but you only have to look back a few centuries to see Christians in Europe slaughtering one another over minor doctrinal differences in their beliefs and slaughtering or enslaving just about anyone else who was different from them. There is no reason to assume Muslim Arabs won't follow this same path.

I was talking about the future and Arab History of hundreds of years of resistance to Western Empires and countries... you say relations will improve? Can you provide a link or evidence?


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Only two Arab States recognize Israel: Egypt, and Jordan, though it should be noted that these relations are not normal and contain inherent problems. Relations with Israel have deteriorated, especially after the last Gaza War, where Mauritania had suspended its relations with Israel.[17]