Is Palin a liar or just dumb as a stump?

[Oldandtired]

Yes.

Doesn't matter, she's still an improvement over the moran we have now.

Irony.

Honestly though. none of this shit matters. The Reid comment, Palin's gaffes, the sex lives of the Edwards, all this hype coming out about and from Game Change is of the most insignificant, petty, gossipy celeb news crap that TMZ plies in. It's unfit to be called political discourse and it's a distraction from things like the many foreign wars we're engaged in, the recession, crippling unemployment, health care reform, and the other issues that actually effect Americans.

But you ignore one very7 important part of this....the people that are the topic of the "gossip" regarding their infidelity, their lies, their lack of ethics...are the same people that are ignoring the polls and pushing through legislation that is not necessarily what the people want.

They imply that they lknow what is best for the people and want to do this for the people....but do any of you want people with "questionable" level of ethics to have such power?

I know I dont.

 

[QUENTIN]

Then provide the verification as well as corroborations. So far all I see is his statements, no verification and no corroborations.

Schmidt cited an ethics report on the then-Alaska governor from her home state on an investigation into whether she had improperly used her government position.

“She went out and said, you know, ‘This report completely exonerates me,’” Schmidt said. “And in fact, it — it didn’t. You know it’s the equivalent of saying down is up and up is down. It was provably, demonstrably untrue

That ethics report found Palin entirely culpable, then she went out and lied through her teeth, claiming it exonerated her. The report and her false statements regarding it are both widely available and on record.

Schmidt's other big statement getting press is that Palin couldn't even remember Joe Biden's name during the debate, and that was why she did her infamous "Can I call you Joe?" so as to not embarrass herself at getting his name wrong during the debate.

Palin herself corroborated this on page 289 of Going Rouge:

During rehearsals, I accidently called Randy “Senator O’Biden” — a slip of the tongue combination of Obama and Biden. The blunder struck too often, even tripping up campaign staffers. (Jay Leno later made the same slip on his new talk show, so we were in good company.) We laughed about it but knew that if I said it even once during the debate, it would be disastrous. Then somebody said, “You ought to just call him Joe.” ... So that’s what we decided I would do. We had no idea my mic would already be hot when I walked onstage, crossed over to his turf, and said, “Can I call you Joe?” The “expert” post-debate analysis was that my question was a cleverly devised strategy to disarm my opponent. Yeah, right.

Obviously not every single claim will be independently verified, because Palin and those in her camp have a vested interest in not making her appear unqualified. McCain's camp has no interest in making her appear unqualified either. They have no reason to lie now, the campaign is over and they're not trying to blame her for the loss, but in fact he said she helped the campaign, this guy is just answering questions and giving details about what went wrong.

But you ignore one very7 important part of this....the people that are the topic of the "gossip" regarding their infidelity, their lies, their lack of ethics...are the same people that are ignoring the polls and pushing through legislation that is not necessarily what the people want.

They imply that they lknow what is best for the people and want to do this for the people....but do any of you want people with "questionable" level of ethics to have such power?

I know I dont.

No, this isn't about their ethics. If it were, the book and the reports coming from it would be about how the politicians make deals with their top campaign contributors, powerful individuals, corporate entities, and entire sections of the business world, to enact favorable legislation for money. If it were about their ethics, it would be about them misusing campaign funds, deciding to support policies they knew to be harmful in order to secure more votes, colluding with special anti-democratic interests for power within the beltway, those kind of political ethical concerns that every national politician faces and nearly all (every subject of the book at least) is guilty of violating.

Instead, it is gossip of the checkout line rag variety, no different than "exposés" of who Lindsay Lohan slept with this weekend or what Paris Hilton privately said to her friends about it.

It's personality-driven political crap focused on what tidbits are "juiciest." The kind of shit we were mired in for two years during the Clinton sex scandal that had no real impact on anything except to distract us from actual legislation and policies that have an enormous impact on our lives and should be the focus of our political concerns.

 

[VaYank5150]

Yes.

Doesn't matter, she's still an improvement over the moran we have now.

Irony.

Honestly though. none of this shit matters. The Reid comment, Palin's gaffes, the sex lives of the Edwards, all this hype coming out about and from Game Change is of the most insignificant, petty, gossipy celeb news crap that TMZ plies in. It's unfit to be called political discourse and it's a distraction from things like the many foreign wars we're engaged in, the recession, crippling unemployment, health care reform, and the other issues that actually effect Americans.

But you ignore one very7 important part of this....the people that are the topic of the "gossip" regarding their infidelity, their lies, their lack of ethics...are the same people that are ignoring the polls and pushing through legislation that is not necessarily what the people want.

They imply that they lknow what is best for the people and want to do this for the people....but do any of you want people with "questionable" level of ethics to have such power?

I know I dont.

What legislation that the people don't want are Sanford and Ensign pushing through?

 

[Maple]

Steve Schmidt: Sarah Palin has trouble with truth - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com


John McCain’s top campaign strategist said in an interview Sunday that Sarah Palin was dishonest as the GOP’s vice-presidential nominee and that her untruths have done long-term damage to her public image.

“There were numerous instances that she said things that were — that were not accurate that ultimately, the campaign had to deal with,” said Steve Schmidt in an interview broadcast on CBS’s “60 Minutes.” “And that opened the door to criticism that she was being untruthful and inaccurate. And I think that is something that continues to this day.”

Schmidt cited an ethics report on the then-Alaska governor from her home state on an investigation into whether she had improperly used her government position.

“She went out and said, you know, ‘This report completely exonerates me,’” Schmidt said. “And in fact, it — it didn’t. You know it’s the equivalent of saying down is up and up is down. It was provably, demonstrably untrue

Heilemann said that even after crash-course tutorials by campaign aides following the convention, Palin was still woefully uninformed about basic policy issues.

“he still didn’t really understand why there was a North Korea and a South Korea,” Heilemann told the program’s Anderson Cooper. “She was still regularly saying that Saddam Hussein had been behind 9/11.”

I see that you are still a troll and still trolling for dirt on Palin. Why don't you try reading her book that has been fact checked by 11 different associated press journalists and actually have something to talk aboutl.

BTW- her and Schmidt did not hit it off. Do you think maybe he could be attempting to get back at her????? Or are you just worried that she is now a Fox news contributor which is bound to steal more viewers from the Rachel Maddox show. After all, Palin is a whole lot easier on the eyes when you consider that Maddox looks like a line backer from The University of Michigan. All she needs is a helmet.

 

[QUENTIN]

After all, Palin is a whole lot easier on the eyes when you consider that Maddox looks like a line backer from The University of Michigan. All she needs is a helmet.

What?

Maddow is particularly thin.

I agree with you that Palin is more physically attractive than Maddow, but if you don't like Maddow talk about why you disagree with her or find her show bad, no reason to make absurd and dishonest physical comparisons.

 

[Sherry]

Steve should take care of his hard on for Palin in private.

 

[VaYank5150]

Steve Schmidt: Sarah Palin has trouble with truth - Jonathan Martin - POLITICO.com


John McCain’s top campaign strategist said in an interview Sunday that Sarah Palin was dishonest as the GOP’s vice-presidential nominee and that her untruths have done long-term damage to her public image.

“There were numerous instances that she said things that were — that were not accurate that ultimately, the campaign had to deal with,” said Steve Schmidt in an interview broadcast on CBS’s “60 Minutes.” “And that opened the door to criticism that she was being untruthful and inaccurate. And I think that is something that continues to this day.”

Schmidt cited an ethics report on the then-Alaska governor from her home state on an investigation into whether she had improperly used her government position.

“She went out and said, you know, ‘This report completely exonerates me,’” Schmidt said. “And in fact, it — it didn’t. You know it’s the equivalent of saying down is up and up is down. It was provably, demonstrably untrue

Heilemann said that even after crash-course tutorials by campaign aides following the convention, Palin was still woefully uninformed about basic policy issues.

“he still didn’t really understand why there was a North Korea and a South Korea,” Heilemann told the program’s Anderson Cooper. “She was still regularly saying that Saddam Hussein had been behind 9/11.”

I see that you are still a troll and still trolling for dirt on Palin. Why don't you try reading her book that has been fact checked by 11 different associated press journalists and actually have something to talk aboutl.

BTW- her and Schmidt did not hit it off. Do you think maybe he could be attempting to get back at her????? Or are you just worried that she is now a Fox news contributor which is bound to steal more viewers from the Rachel Maddox show. After all, Palin is a whole lot easier on the eyes when you consider that Maddox looks like a line backer from The University of Michigan. All she needs is a helmet.

Did anyone ever see Maddow run for VP of the USA? Ummm, no. Only the GOP would do something that stupid.

 

[uscitizen]

Is Palin a liar or just dumb as a stump?

Why can't it be both?

My thought as well.

Actually her only power is as a Charismatic.

 

[Claudette]

Yeah. Sarah Palin is dumb. Dumb all the way to the bank.

You got that right. For someone the left thinks is stupid and ineffectual she's doin pretty damned good. Hell, all they can talk about is someone who ISN'T RUNNING FOR ANYTHING. Everytime she farts she's in the news.

Stupd, ineffecutal and a nothing nobody who's laughing all the way to the bank. Gotta love it. You Go Girl.

 

[bodecea]

i love how mccain staffers are now sources of truth and authority....

Or...that they are not.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Yawn.

Without Palin Obama would have swept all 57 states.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Steve Schmidt still hasn't figured out that Obama is a Librul. LOL

Yeah, that's the guy we listen to

 

[QUENTIN]

Yeah. Sarah Palin is dumb. Dumb all the way to the bank.

You got that right. For someone the left thinks is stupid and ineffectual she's doin pretty damned good. Hell, all they can talk about is someone who ISN'T RUNNING FOR ANYTHING. Everytime she farts she's in the news.

Stupd, ineffecutal and a nothing nobody who's laughing all the way to the bank. Gotta love it. You Go Girl.

Paris Hilton is also laughing all the way to the bank, making more money than Palin, and is a regular fixture on the news. Ditto Britney Spears, whose money is not inherited. The inventors of "lolcatz" are millionaires and Lorena Bobbitt received a ton of media coverage.

Financial success and public notoriety are no indicators of intelligence or achievement.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Then provide the verification as well as corroborations. So far all I see is his statements, no verification and no corroborations.

Schmidt cited an ethics report on the then-Alaska governor from her home state on an investigation into whether she had improperly used her government position.

“She went out and said, you know, ‘This report completely exonerates me,’” Schmidt said. “And in fact, it — it didn’t. You know it’s the equivalent of saying down is up and up is down. It was provably, demonstrably untrue

That ethics report found Palin entirely culpable, then she went out and lied through her teeth, claiming it exonerated her. The report and her false statements regarding it are both widely available and on record.

Schmidt's other big statement getting press is that Palin couldn't even remember Joe Biden's name during the debate, and that was why she did her infamous "Can I call you Joe?" so as to not embarrass herself at getting his name wrong during the debate.

Palin herself corroborated this on page 289 of Going Rouge:

During rehearsals, I accidently called Randy “Senator O’Biden” — a slip of the tongue combination of Obama and Biden. The blunder struck too often, even tripping up campaign staffers. (Jay Leno later made the same slip on his new talk show, so we were in good company.) We laughed about it but knew that if I said it even once during the debate, it would be disastrous. Then somebody said, “You ought to just call him Joe.” ... So that’s what we decided I would do. We had no idea my mic would already be hot when I walked onstage, crossed over to his turf, and said, “Can I call you Joe?” The “expert” post-debate analysis was that my question was a cleverly devised strategy to disarm my opponent. Yeah, right.

Obviously not every single claim will be independently verified, because Palin and those in her camp have a vested interest in not making her appear unqualified. McCain's camp has no interest in making her appear unqualified either. They have no reason to lie now, the campaign is over and they're not trying to blame her for the loss, but in fact he said she helped the campaign, this guy is just answering questions and giving details about what went wrong.

But you ignore one very7 important part of this....the people that are the topic of the "gossip" regarding their infidelity, their lies, their lack of ethics...are the same people that are ignoring the polls and pushing through legislation that is not necessarily what the people want.

They imply that they lknow what is best for the people and want to do this for the people....but do any of you want people with "questionable" level of ethics to have such power?

I know I dont.

No, this isn't about their ethics. If it were, the book and the reports coming from it would be about how the politicians make deals with their top campaign contributors, powerful individuals, corporate entities, and entire sections of the business world, to enact favorable legislation for money. If it were about their ethics, it would be about them misusing campaign funds, deciding to support policies they knew to be harmful in order to secure more votes, colluding with special anti-democratic interests for power within the beltway, those kind of political ethical concerns that every national politician faces and nearly all (every subject of the book at least) is guilty of violating.

Instead, it is gossip of the checkout line rag variety, no different than "exposés" of who Lindsay Lohan slept with this weekend or what Paris Hilton privately said to her friends about it.

It's personality-driven political crap focused on what tidbits are "juiciest." The kind of shit we were mired in for two years during the Clinton sex scandal that had no real impact on anything except to distract us from actual legislation and policies that have an enormous impact on our lives and should be the focus of our political concerns.

You've yet to prove she lied. You claim the ethics report found her culpable, show me. And then show me where she stated that the same report exonerates her.

 

[Claudette]

Yeah. Sarah Palin is dumb. Dumb all the way to the bank.

You got that right. For someone the left thinks is stupid and ineffectual she's doin pretty damned good. Hell, all they can talk about is someone who ISN'T RUNNING FOR ANYTHING. Everytime she farts she's in the news.

Stupd, ineffecutal and a nothing nobody who's laughing all the way to the bank. Gotta love it. You Go Girl.

Paris Hilton is also laughing all the way to the bank, making more money than Palin, and is a regular fixture on the news. Ditto Britney Spears, whose money is not inherited. The inventors of "lolcatz" are millionaires and Lorena Bobbitt received a ton of media coverage.

Financial success and public notoriety are no indicators of intelligence or achievement.

Never said it was but its the Paparattzi that love Hilton and Spears don't think they give a shit about Palin. I also think Palin has achieved a tad more that either one of those two airheads. I will agree though that they are all laughing all the way to the bank.

Oh wait, I forgot. Palin is dumb as a stump, ineffectual and a know nothing so she must be taking a different route to that bank. Hope the banks big enough.

 

[Hellokitty]

and what about when she claimed on a trip to Bosnia, she came under sniper fire?

Oh wait that was Hillary...

my bad

 

[VaYank5150]

You got that right. For someone the left thinks is stupid and ineffectual she's doin pretty damned good. Hell, all they can talk about is someone who ISN'T RUNNING FOR ANYTHING. Everytime she farts she's in the news.

Stupd, ineffecutal and a nothing nobody who's laughing all the way to the bank. Gotta love it. You Go Girl.

Paris Hilton is also laughing all the way to the bank, making more money than Palin, and is a regular fixture on the news. Ditto Britney Spears, whose money is not inherited. The inventors of "lolcatz" are millionaires and Lorena Bobbitt received a ton of media coverage.

Financial success and public notoriety are no indicators of intelligence or achievement.

Never said it was but its the Paparattzi that love Hilton and Spears don't think they give a shit about Palin. I also think Palin has achieved a tad more that either one of those two airheads. I will agree though that they are all laughing all the way to the bank.

Oh wait, I forgot. Palin is dumb as a stump, ineffectual and a know nothing so she must be taking a different route to that bank. Hope the banks big enough.

Hmmmm..when did Britney and Hilton quit their jobs???

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Coming from someone who supports a demostrative liar & racist such as Obama & that dufus/racist Biden; I give this thread a big "whatever"

Next.

 

[VaYank5150]

Coming from someone who supports a demostrative liar & racist such as Obama & that dufus/racist Biden; I give this thread a big "whatever"

Next.

Thanks for addinng your .01, there NOLA...

 

[Claudette]

Paris Hilton is also laughing all the way to the bank, making more money than Palin, and is a regular fixture on the news. Ditto Britney Spears, whose money is not inherited. The inventors of "lolcatz" are millionaires and Lorena Bobbitt received a ton of media coverage.

Financial success and public notoriety are no indicators of intelligence or achievement.

Never said it was but its the Paparattzi that love Hilton and Spears don't think they give a shit about Palin. I also think Palin has achieved a tad more that either one of those two airheads. I will agree though that they are all laughing all the way to the bank.

Oh wait, I forgot. Palin is dumb as a stump, ineffectual and a know nothing so she must be taking a different route to that bank. Hope the banks big enough.

Hmmmm..when did Britney and Hilton quit their jobs???

Hilton never had one to quitt. Thats what happens when your daddy is a Hilton. Spears?? Guess she has a job. Palin resigned hers. Guess you can call her a quitter. I don't, but thats oopen to interpritatioin. LOL