Is LESS Police LESS Firemen LESS Teachers an effective campaign strategy?

[rdean]

We've all seen the now famous video of Mitt Romney saying "Cut Back On Government" and then identifying that government we need to cut back on as "Police, Firemen and Teachers".

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoSmWK_-x4g&feature=player_embedded]Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube[/ame]

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It seems to me this is not an "effective campaign strategy". Especially with headlines about terrorists shooting up movie theaters and attacking a religious site. I would think Americans want MORE Police.

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Romney Challenged on How Much Class Size Matters - ABC News

“And I can’t think of a parent that would say I would like my teacher to be in a room with a lot of kids and only one teacher,” Morris continued. “So I’m wondering where this research comes from.”

That from a Philadelphia teacher. Romney's quick response:

“All the talk about we need smaller classroom size … that’s promoted by the teachers unions to hire more teachers,” he said.

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And worst of all:

Monster wildfire rages in Colorado (+video) - CSMonitor.com

LESS FIREFIGHTERS????

Honestly, I don't know what to say.

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So the question is, "Is this really a winning strategy"?

I know USMB Republicans rush to defend Mitt and say his words were taken out of context OR they actually believe we need LESS Police, Firmen and Teachers.

I think the real problem for the right wing is this is the most complex country on earth, technologically and socially, at a time when the world is the most complex, and they want a tiny government that can't do anything. The problem is that such small thinking leaves the country open to attack in ways other than military. Cyber terrorism, trade wars, education, science. Just when we need a complex and flexible government, they want to tear down ours and replace it with "every man for himself". And the ridiculous chant of "you need government to do it for you", when the reality is, "There are some things only government can do", but Republicans simply can't imagine what they are. I'm guessing they are too busy imagining the President is a Kenyan Mau Mau Marxist.

 

[candycorn]

We've all seen the now famous video of Mitt Romney saying "Cut Back On Government" and then identifying that government we need to cut back on as "Police, Firemen and Teachers".

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

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It seems to me this is not an "effective campaign strategy". Especially with headlines about terrorists shooting up movie theaters and attacking a religious site. I would think Americans want MORE Police.

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Romney Challenged on How Much Class Size Matters - ABC News

“And I can’t think of a parent that would say I would like my teacher to be in a room with a lot of kids and only one teacher,” Morris continued. “So I’m wondering where this research comes from.”

That from a Philadelphia teacher. Romney's quick response:

“All the talk about we need smaller classroom size … that’s promoted by the teachers unions to hire more teachers,” he said.

-----------------------------------------------

And worst of all:

Monster wildfire rages in Colorado (+video) - CSMonitor.com

LESS FIREFIGHTERS????

Honestly, I don't know what to say.

------------------------------------------------

So the question is, "Is this really a winning strategy"?

I know USMB Republicans rush to defend Mitt and say his words were taken out of context OR they actually believe we need LESS Police, Firmen and Teachers.

I think the real problem for the right wing is this is the most complex country on earth, technologically and socially, at a time when the world is the most complex, and they want a tiny government that can't do anything. The problem is that such small thinking leaves the country open to attack in ways other than military. Cyber terrorism, trade wars, education, science. Just when we need a complex and flexible government, they want to tear down ours and replace it with "every man for himself". And the ridiculous chant of "you need government to do it for you", when the reality is, "There are some things only government can do", but Republicans simply can't imagine what they are. I'm guessing they are too busy imagining the President is a Kenyan Mau Mau Marxist.

According to polling, it hasn't been effective so far.

 

[healthmyths]

ABSOLUTELY YES!!!!
How stupid that idiots think for example as this illustrates..
I was listening to a duncehead female radio personality in FL when she heard FL may outlaw text while driving..."Well I guess if it became a law, I'd obey the law"!!!

Seriously!! And this totally illustrates the mentality of idiots WITH NO Common SENSE!
The laws of physics TRUMP laws of man every time!
Think folks... this idiot illustrates that the ONLY reason NOT to text is it would be against the law!
NOT that it is stupid .. totally insane to take your eyes off the road when at 30 mph your car's travel 44 feet in one second!

And this is so true of this thread!

Why not spend as much on teaching the Golden Rule.. that laws of physics are superior then laws of man.
Give practical examples show physical laws can't be broke!

Little kids are learning about "global warming" everywhere!
Teach the practical reason for treating others as you would have others treat you would reduce the need for more laws of man!

 

[healthmyths]

We've all seen the now famous video of Mitt Romney saying "Cut Back On Government" and then identifying that government we need to cut back on as "Police, Firemen and Teachers".

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

---------------------------------------------

It seems to me this is not an "effective campaign strategy". Especially with headlines about terrorists shooting up movie theaters and attacking a religious site. I would think Americans want MORE Police.

-------------------------------------------

Romney Challenged on How Much Class Size Matters - ABC News

“And I can’t think of a parent that would say I would like my teacher to be in a room with a lot of kids and only one teacher,” Morris continued. “So I’m wondering where this research comes from.”

That from a Philadelphia teacher. Romney's quick response:

“All the talk about we need smaller classroom size … that’s promoted by the teachers unions to hire more teachers,” he said.

-----------------------------------------------

And worst of all:

Monster wildfire rages in Colorado (+video) - CSMonitor.com

LESS FIREFIGHTERS????

Honestly, I don't know what to say.

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So the question is, "Is this really a winning strategy"?

I know USMB Republicans rush to defend Mitt and say his words were taken out of context OR they actually believe we need LESS Police, Firmen and Teachers.

I think the real problem for the right wing is this is the most complex country on earth, technologically and socially, at a time when the world is the most complex, and they want a tiny government that can't do anything. The problem is that such small thinking leaves the country open to attack in ways other than military. Cyber terrorism, trade wars, education, science. Just when we need a complex and flexible government, they want to tear down ours and replace it with "every man for himself". And the ridiculous chant of "you need government to do it for you", when the reality is, "There are some things only government can do", but Republicans simply can't imagine what they are. I'm guessing they are too busy imagining the President is a Kenyan Mau Mau Marxist.

You wrote: "LESS FIREFIGHTERS????

Honestly, I don't know what to say."


IDIOT... do you know what starts most wildfires? Other IDIOTS!!!
trash burners accidentally start 60 percent of the fires, arsonists deliberately set 15 percent. ...
Common SENSE and training of people say "DON'T BURN TRASH STUPIDLY!"' would cut a majority of wildfires!
Finding out why 15% of the wildfires were started on purpose and educate people as to how stupid it is and costly to THEM!!!

 

[Skull Pilot]

Since when does the federal government hire local and state police, firemen and teachers?

Stop confusing local issues with federal

 

[buckeye45_73]

rdean's got nothing...democrats are trying to redo 2006, where they did nothing but run against Bush, they really offered nothing and with their 4 years in power, we got nothing but debt and socialism.....

 

[DiamondDave]

Since when does the federal government hire local and state police, firemen and teachers?

Stop confusing local issues with federal

The Fed has no business funding local police and fire... And you are correct that they do not hire them...

Getting the Fed out of where it does not belong does not mean the GOP is running on less fire and police protection

 

[Harry Dresden]

We've all seen the now famous video of Mitt Romney saying "Cut Back On Government" and then identifying that government we need to cut back on as "Police, Firemen and Teachers".

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

---------------------------------------------

It seems to me this is not an "effective campaign strategy". Especially with headlines about terrorists shooting up movie theaters and attacking a religious site. I would think Americans want MORE Police.

-------------------------------------------

Romney Challenged on How Much Class Size Matters - ABC News

“And I can’t think of a parent that would say I would like my teacher to be in a room with a lot of kids and only one teacher,” Morris continued. “So I’m wondering where this research comes from.”

That from a Philadelphia teacher. Romney's quick response:

“All the talk about we need smaller classroom size … that’s promoted by the teachers unions to hire more teachers,” he said.

-----------------------------------------------

And worst of all:

Monster wildfire rages in Colorado (+video) - CSMonitor.com

LESS FIREFIGHTERS????

Honestly, I don't know what to say.

------------------------------------------------

So the question is, "Is this really a winning strategy"?

I know USMB Republicans rush to defend Mitt and say his words were taken out of context OR they actually believe we need LESS Police, Firmen and Teachers.

I think the real problem for the right wing is this is the most complex country on earth, technologically and socially, at a time when the world is the most complex, and they want a tiny government that can't do anything. The problem is that such small thinking leaves the country open to attack in ways other than military. Cyber terrorism, trade wars, education, science. Just when we need a complex and flexible government, they want to tear down ours and replace it with "every man for himself". And the ridiculous chant of "you need government to do it for you", when the reality is, "There are some things only government can do", but Republicans simply can't imagine what they are. I'm guessing they are too busy imagining the President is a Kenyan Mau Mau Marxist.

i would say something Dean......but you will no doubt leave this thread like you do all your others.....so why bother.....besides Franco's threads are getting to be more exciting than yours.....

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Since when does the federal government hire local and state police, firemen and teachers?

Stop confusing local issues with federal

and more federal funding of education just means more money in the Democrat coffers....

 

[eflatminor]

...Firemen...

We've already established that the Federal government has no authority to fund cops, firefighters and teachers, but let's take your argument that we need more firemen.

Why do you think that is the case?

The number of fatalities and injuries caused by fires has declined steadily over the past several decades*. So, why do we need more firefighters?

Hmmm????

Anyone taking odds that Deanie boy will not return to clean up this stinking pile of shit he's left for all of us to enjoy?

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*According to the USFA, the number of fires, fire casualties, and economic losses has continued to decline over the last several years. From 1992-2001, fires per million population declined 204 percent, deaths per million declined 30 percent, and dollar loss per capita declined 6 percent. This data is confirmed by comparing it with the National Fire Protection Administration’s (NFPA) data on national fire trends from 1977- 2004. The NFPA data shows that in 1977, there were a total of 3,264,000 fires nationwide, resulting in 7,395 civilian deaths and 31,190 civilian injuries. In 2004, this number dropped to a total of 1,550,500 fires, 3,900 civilian deaths, and 17,785 civilian injuries nationwide

 

[Katzndogz]

It might be different if we actually got more police, firefighters and good teachers. The increase in taxes never seems to actually result in more police, firefighters and good teachers.

 

[Sinjorri]

Since when does the federal government hire local and state police, firemen and teachers?

Stop confusing local issues with federal

they cant lefties believe big brother owns all. I mean really even if this was effective and for towns that cant afford it it really is, but would rdean vote R even if Romney laid down the best plans ever? I would think he wouldnt from all the threads and poking he does at Romney while the D president still refuses to own up to his own mistakes.

 

[buckeye45_73]

We've all seen the now famous video of Mitt Romney saying "Cut Back On Government" and then identifying that government we need to cut back on as "Police, Firemen and Teachers".

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

---------------------------------------------

It seems to me this is not an "effective campaign strategy". Especially with headlines about terrorists shooting up movie theaters and attacking a religious site. I would think Americans want MORE Police.

-------------------------------------------

Romney Challenged on How Much Class Size Matters - ABC News

“And I can’t think of a parent that would say I would like my teacher to be in a room with a lot of kids and only one teacher,” Morris continued. “So I’m wondering where this research comes from.”

That from a Philadelphia teacher. Romney's quick response:

“All the talk about we need smaller classroom size … that’s promoted by the teachers unions to hire more teachers,” he said.

-----------------------------------------------

And worst of all:

Monster wildfire rages in Colorado (+video) - CSMonitor.com

LESS FIREFIGHTERS????

Honestly, I don't know what to say.

------------------------------------------------

So the question is, "Is this really a winning strategy"?

I know USMB Republicans rush to defend Mitt and say his words were taken out of context OR they actually believe we need LESS Police, Firmen and Teachers.

I think the real problem for the right wing is this is the most complex country on earth, technologically and socially, at a time when the world is the most complex, and they want a tiny government that can't do anything. The problem is that such small thinking leaves the country open to attack in ways other than military. Cyber terrorism, trade wars, education, science. Just when we need a complex and flexible government, they want to tear down ours and replace it with "every man for himself". And the ridiculous chant of "you need government to do it for you", when the reality is, "There are some things only government can do", but Republicans simply can't imagine what they are. I'm guessing they are too busy imagining the President is a Kenyan Mau Mau Marxist.

i would say something Dean......but you will no doubt leave this thread like you do all your others.....so why bother.....besides Franco's threads are getting to be more exciting than yours.....

Harry predicted it again....rdean if you keep making him look so perceptive, he really will start his own religion!

 

[del]

We've all seen the now famous video of Mitt Romney saying "Cut Back On Government" and then identifying that government we need to cut back on as "Police, Firemen and Teachers".

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

---------------------------------------------

It seems to me this is not an "effective campaign strategy". Especially with headlines about terrorists shooting up movie theaters and attacking a religious site. I would think Americans want MORE Police.

-------------------------------------------

Romney Challenged on How Much Class Size Matters - ABC News

“And I can’t think of a parent that would say I would like my teacher to be in a room with a lot of kids and only one teacher,” Morris continued. “So I’m wondering where this research comes from.”

That from a Philadelphia teacher. Romney's quick response:

“All the talk about we need smaller classroom size … that’s promoted by the teachers unions to hire more teachers,” he said.

-----------------------------------------------

And worst of all:

Monster wildfire rages in Colorado (+video) - CSMonitor.com

LESS FIREFIGHTERS????

Honestly, I don't know what to say.

------------------------------------------------

So the question is, "Is this really a winning strategy"?

I know USMB Republicans rush to defend Mitt and say his words were taken out of context OR they actually believe we need LESS Police, Firmen and Teachers.

I think the real problem for the right wing is this is the most complex country on earth, technologically and socially, at a time when the world is the most complex, and they want a tiny government that can't do anything. The problem is that such small thinking leaves the country open to attack in ways other than military. Cyber terrorism, trade wars, education, science. Just when we need a complex and flexible government, they want to tear down ours and replace it with "every man for himself". And the ridiculous chant of "you need government to do it for you", when the reality is, "There are some things only government can do", but Republicans simply can't imagine what they are. I'm guessing they are too busy imagining the President is a Kenyan Mau Mau Marxist.

fewer, not less

a good teacher would have taught you that, deanie.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

We've all seen the now famous video of Mitt Romney saying "Cut Back On Government" and then identifying that government we need to cut back on as "Police, Firemen and Teachers".

Mitt Romney Criticizes President Obama For Wanting To Hire More Police, Firemen and Teachers - YouTube

---------------------------------------------

It seems to me this is not an "effective campaign strategy". Especially with headlines about terrorists shooting up movie theaters and attacking a religious site. I would think Americans want MORE Police.

-------------------------------------------

Romney Challenged on How Much Class Size Matters - ABC News

“And I can’t think of a parent that would say I would like my teacher to be in a room with a lot of kids and only one teacher,” Morris continued. “So I’m wondering where this research comes from.”

That from a Philadelphia teacher. Romney's quick response:

“All the talk about we need smaller classroom size … that’s promoted by the teachers unions to hire more teachers,” he said.

-----------------------------------------------

And worst of all:

Monster wildfire rages in Colorado (+video) - CSMonitor.com

LESS FIREFIGHTERS????

Honestly, I don't know what to say.

------------------------------------------------

So the question is, "Is this really a winning strategy"?

I know USMB Republicans rush to defend Mitt and say his words were taken out of context OR they actually believe we need LESS Police, Firmen and Teachers.

I think the real problem for the right wing is this is the most complex country on earth, technologically and socially, at a time when the world is the most complex, and they want a tiny government that can't do anything. The problem is that such small thinking leaves the country open to attack in ways other than military. Cyber terrorism, trade wars, education, science. Just when we need a complex and flexible government, they want to tear down ours and replace it with "every man for himself". And the ridiculous chant of "you need government to do it for you", when the reality is, "There are some things only government can do", but Republicans simply can't imagine what they are. I'm guessing they are too busy imagining the President is a Kenyan Mau Mau Marxist.

While we're at it lets cut down on garbage men, let individuals be personally responsible for disposing of their own garbage, the city should have nothing to do with it.

 

[g5000]

Since when does the federal government hire local and state police, firemen and teachers?

Stop confusing local issues with federal

The federal government provides billions of dollars in grants to the states for the hiring and training of teachers, firemen, and cops.

Therefore, cutting those grants would reduce the number of teachers, firemen, and cops.

It is astonishing there are people who do not know this.

Have you people never listened to a State of the Union address?

 

[The T]

Since when does the federal government hire local and state police, firemen and teachers?

Stop confusing local issues with federal

The federal government provides billions of dollars in grants to the states for the hiring and training of teachers, firemen, and cops.

Therefore, cutting those grants would reduce the number of teachers, firemen, and cops.

It is astonishing there are people who do not know this.

Have you people never listened to a State of the Union address?

The FED has ZERO business GRANTING SHIT to local governments for ANYTHING. All it does is get thier foot in the door to dictacte terms, and ENSLAVE them.

Firefighters and Police force are a LOCAL MATTER.

Sorry...YOU FAIL.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Since when does the federal government hire local and state police, firemen and teachers?

Stop confusing local issues with federal

The federal government provides billions of dollars in grants to the states for the hiring and training of teachers, firemen, and cops.

Therefore, cutting those grants would reduce the number of teachers, firemen, and cops.

It is astonishing there are people who do not know this.

Have you people never listened to a State of the Union address?

The FED has ZERO business GRANTING SHIT to local governments for ANYTHING. All it does is get thier foot in the door to dictacte terms, and ENSLAVE them.

Firefighters and Police force are a LOCAL MATTER.

Sorry...YOU FAIL.

So I presume if your home is on fire, and the local fire department is federally subsidized - you'll turn them away and put out the flames yourself, right?

 

[The T]

The federal government provides billions of dollars in grants to the states for the hiring and training of teachers, firemen, and cops.

Therefore, cutting those grants would reduce the number of teachers, firemen, and cops.

It is astonishing there are people who do not know this.

Have you people never listened to a State of the Union address?

The FED has ZERO business GRANTING SHIT to local governments for ANYTHING. All it does is get thier foot in the door to dictacte terms, and ENSLAVE them.

Firefighters and Police force are a LOCAL MATTER.

Sorry...YOU FAIL.

So I presume if your home is on fire, and the local fire department is federally subsidized - you'll turn them away and put out the flames yourself, right?

What PART of LOCAL and the Constitution don't YOU understand asshat?

FED gives boubles and trinquests just like they do citizens for DEPENDENCY.

YOU know quite well what I am talking about.

The Constitution states very well where the FED doesn't belong. YOU WELCOME thier intrusion for the purpose of CONTROL.

YOU may FUCK OFF NOW...

IDIOT.

 

[del]

Since when does the federal government hire local and state police, firemen and teachers?

Stop confusing local issues with federal

The federal government provides billions of dollars in grants to the states for the hiring and training of teachers, firemen, and cops.

Therefore, cutting those grants would reduce the number of teachers, firemen, and cops.

It is astonishing there are people who do not know this.

Have you people never listened to a State of the Union address?

nice job, tommy