Is It Too Soon For The Truth About Bush41?

You acknowledge he was flying a damaged airplane. Damaged airplanes CRASH. No sane person jumps out of a viable airplane over the ocean but your claim is that he did so...leaving his comrades to die.

Of course you have no real evidence of that. Just some Swiftboat garbage.

Newsflash...the plane was hit and damaged and going down. One crewmember got out and his chute didn't open (pointing out just ONE of the dangers of bailing out) and the other likely died in the plane when the plane was hit.
There is seriously something wrong with people like you
 
Although I voted for 41 I later realized he is one of the inter-members of the OWG. That to me is almost as bad as the devil tricking Eve in the Garden of Eden.

Skull and Bones Society at Yale too......they let Kerry in....what kind of club does that? :nocknockHT:
 
You acknowledge he was flying a damaged airplane. Damaged airplanes CRASH. No sane person jumps out of a viable airplane over the ocean but your claim is that he did so...leaving his comrades to die.

Of course you have no real evidence of that. Just some Swiftboat garbage.

Newsflash...the plane was hit and damaged and going down. One crewmember got out and his chute didn't open (pointing out just ONE of the dangers of bailing out) and the other likely died in the plane when the plane was hit.
There is seriously something wrong with people like you

Ah, another leftist dope with no reading comprehension...go fuck yourself
 
I have no doubt that each and every President we've had has had some pretty shady shit in their past. It's as if it's a requirement, and I have no doubt that they're forced to do some shady shit while in office. Such is the nature of the world right now. That's reality.

But I've developed a newfound expectation for Presidents over the last couple of years, that they be intelligent, dignified, empathetic and decent. I guess I kind of assumed those qualities in the past, but they're in such short supply currently, I value them much more now.

So, based on those seemingly fundamental qualities alone, I respect George HW Bush. It's all relative.
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Fine by me, you have the right to your opinion and are civil about it. I already said I didn't consider him some kind of evil genius, but I also don't think he was honest with us, or not compromised by the men who put him in power. He got us into a south Asian land war that's still going on and has cost us unknown blood and treasure. Remember, it was US boots on the ground (including female soldiers) in SA to protect the kingdom from Saddam that lit up bin Laden enough to pull off 9/11
 
Swift boating by those who were not there

Weak.....plenty of them knew what a pussy Kerry was and how he got his ribbons (that he claimed he later tossed over the WH fence) but that was a lie too.
Gotta love Conservatives

They celebrate Donnie Bonespurs while they find ways to ridicule the heroism of Bush, McCain and Kerry
 
I have no doubt that each and every President we've had has had some pretty shady shit in their past. It's as if it's a requirement, and I have no doubt that they're forced to do some shady shit while in office. Such is the nature of the world right now. That's reality.

But I've developed a newfound expectation for Presidents over the last couple of years, that they be intelligent, dignified, empathetic and decent. I guess I kind of assumed those qualities in the past, but they're in such short supply currently, I value them much more now.

So, based on those seemingly fundamental qualities alone, I respect George HW Bush. It's all relative.
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Bush was a real lowlife amongst lowlifes.....Reagan detested the man and had good reason....Despite his protestations of being "out of the loop", he WAS the string puller behind Iran-Contra guns-for-cocaine scam.

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Bush saved Reagan’s legacy
 
Yeah, I voted for him in 1988...the spectre of tiny little Dukakis sitting in a tank with his helmet strap buckled had me laughing for days. So with that out of the way....George HW Bush is my choice for the worst president in our history....barely squeaking by Jimmy Peanut for the crown. Obama is in a league of his own and will hopefully end up in Leavenworth for what he did in the WH....but back to 41.

1. He suckered Saddam into invading Kuwait.....and then bragged we "only lost 383 soldiers" liberating the tiny kingdom. Imagine what the parents of the Fallen thought about that. The Nintendo War lasted 100 hours and ended with a dangerously humiliated Hussein. The Glaspie Memo makes it very clear what Saddam believed was our position on him invading Kuwait....we didn't have one.



2. Several Pentagon types believed and still do to this day, that Bush43 invaded Iraq to get Saddam for sending a team to assassinate 41 in Kuwait City after the war. So the genesis of another 5,000 American KIA and $5T can also be laid on 41's doorstep.

3. A crew member in a bomber near Bush's aircraft said there was no fire aboard his plane after it had been hit with AA fire. The aircraft was still maneuverable enough for him to finish his bombing run. He then headed out to sea to supposedly ditch the plane. Other US aircraft fired on Jap boats headed out to get him....the other pilots downed in his squadron were captured, beaten, and beheaded. Three of them had body parts (liver and thigh muscle) served and EATEN by Jap officers. There were two other crewmen in Bush's plane....the witness in the bomber nearest him said there was no smoke in Bush's cockpit, and that he blew his canopy and bailed leaving them to die. He told his story 44 years after it happened and only when a friend demanded the American people know what he saw from the man running for President.

4. "Read my lips".....that was his solemn promise not to raise taxes....It took Speaker Tip O'Neill less than a year to get that promise broken and it rightfully cost 41 reelection.

5. Thanks to 41 we got the serial-rapist Willy Jeff and his hideous wife as First Lady.

6. He told the press he voted for Hillary in 2016...that by itself tells you all you need to know about Bush41.

OK, how does one blow a canopy in a WW2 era aircraft? That already tells me you are a lying sack of shit with an "I hate GHWB" complex.

The question is why would you defend him? He was part of Dulles CIA, intimately involved with the Bay of Pigs shit and clearly not a good man. He was named in the Franklin Savings and Loan pedophile scandal. You approved of all that did you?

Oh, please shut up about idiotic conspiracy theories!

We cross? ALL of that is in the public square. Time to put on your big boy pants.
 
The Bushes are what turned me away from being Republican. Their brand of Conservationism was nothing more than Democrat Light. Even Democrat Heavy at times.

Jeb was a good Governor of Florida. Thank god he was the Governor the year we had the four hurricanes hit the state. Competent leadership. If a Democrat had been in charge we still would have not recovered. He was not Presidential material but he did a good job here in Florida.

However, Neither Bush Sr or Bush Jr had a real Conservative agenda. In fact their agenda was just about the same Progressiveness as we would have got from the filthy ass Democrats.

I became a Perotista because of 41...and it was Bush's dirty tricksters who pissed off ol Ross enough to leave the race when they threatened to disrupt his daughter's wedding. I agree Jeb! was a good governor and Trump was pretty rough on him in the debates but he had to be....that was going to be a coronation with either the Bushes or Clinton clans....thank God DJT came along and blew up both parties.

Ross Perot ran in the election, which is why Clinton won. Why are you so ignorant of aspects of history that don't fit your predetermined agenda?


Ironical ain't it? A man chastising another man for be being ignorant of the facts of history. You don't want the truth, you want "truth".
 
Gotta love Conservatives

They celebrate Donnie Bonespurs while they find ways to ridicule the heroism of Bush, McCain and Kerry

No, we don't put up with trash like your party elders....crooks and perverts every damn one of them. Most of us Cons were all done with the RINO assholes the GOP turned into which is why we went for Trump. When they lose their fear of him and us, it will be business as usual and you'll finally get your communist Utopia with free everything and nobody to pay for it. Reagan was the last great man before Trump....both Bushes did extensive damage to this nation and McCain was little more than Shummer's puppet. We call out those who betray us unlike your ilk who just ignores what they're doing to you.
 
Gotta love Conservatives

They celebrate Donnie Bonespurs while they find ways to ridicule the heroism of Bush, McCain and Kerry

No, we don't put up with trash like your party elders....crooks and perverts every damn one of them. Most of us Cons were all done with the RINO assholes the GOP turned into which is why we went for Trump. When they lose their fear of him and us, it will be business as usual and you'll finally get your communist Utopia with free everything and nobody to pay for it. Reagan was the last great man before Trump....both Bushes did extensive damage to this nation and McCain was little more than Shummer's puppet. We call out those who betray us unlike your ilk who just ignores what they're doing to you.
Who gave a huge tax break to billionaires?? GWB ? Trump?? just asking
 
Ironical ain't it? A man chastising another man for be being ignorant of the facts of history. You don't want the truth, you want "truth".

This "admiral" character is crazy as a bed bug in a slaughter house.....I put him on ignore.
 
The media praised Bush 41 for being a "moderate" politician which translate into caving to democrat demands. The worst thing he did was say "read my lips" and the media turned on him and crucified him when democrats pushed him into a tax increase that actually wasn't too bad. Perot came along at the right time for democrats and we ended up with a pervert and his enabler wife. Lessons learned: never trust the media and being a moderate politician will not get you votes.
 
The media praised Bush 41 for being a "moderate" politician which translate into caving to democrat demands. The worst thing he did was say "read my lips" and the media turned on him and crucified him when democrats pushed him into a tax increase that actually wasn't too bad. Perot came along at the right time for democrats and we ended up with a pervert and his enabler wife. Lessons learned: never trust the media and being a moderate politician will not get you votes.
And now you have another pervert you seem to support At least Bill was married only once
 
Yellow punk? I was a naval officer just like President George H. W. Bush.

Do you know the seating inside that aircraft?

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A second crewman did bail out of the aircraft, but his parachute did not open. That was likely the cockpit gunner who rode in the same canopy as Bush. When Bush gave the order to bail out, it was obviously heard by at least one crewman.The third crewman was in the belly of the plane and likely killed by antiaircraft fire. "Woulda, shoulda, coulda" accounts by a non-pilot that were never corroborated by anyone else are typically moron fodder. I glad you got your fill!

This story was fully discredited almost 40 years ago and even that was nearly 40 years after it happened.

That's right, a yellow punk who's following me around calling me names.....that's chickenshit and you're about as much an "admiral" as Tiny Tim. The account was never "discredited" and the reaction by the Bush campaign lends credence to it by their weak denials. If you'd like to discuss something further PM me, ya yellow punk.

I'll bet you have balls the size of watermelons if you would say those things to my face, but I know you are probably actually a teenage girl who stumbled upon this message looking for info on your fan boy!

I am not following you anywhere, but I am calling you out on your lies and classless attitude. Suck it up buttercup or go back to playing with your dolls.
 
Ironical ain't it? A man chastising another man for be being ignorant of the facts of history. You don't want the truth, you want "truth".

This "admiral" character is crazy as a bed bug in a slaughter house.....I put him on ignore.

He doesn't realize I can still read his posts and call out his idiocy and he will never know! Hahaha!
 
Yeah, I voted for him in 1988...the spectre of tiny little Dukakis sitting in a tank with his helmet strap buckled had me laughing for days. So with that out of the way....George HW Bush is my choice for the worst president in our history....barely squeaking by Jimmy Peanut for the crown. Obama is in a league of his own and will hopefully end up in Leavenworth for what he did in the WH....but back to 41.

1. He suckered Saddam into invading Kuwait.....and then bragged we "only lost 383 soldiers" liberating the tiny kingdom. Imagine what the parents of the Fallen thought about that. The Nintendo War lasted 100 hours and ended with a dangerously humiliated Hussein. The Glaspie Memo makes it very clear what Saddam believed was our position on him invading Kuwait....we didn't have one.

Gulf War Documents: Meeting between Saddam Hussein and US Ambassador to Iraq April Glaspie - Global Research

2. Several Pentagon types believed and still do to this day, that Bush43 invaded Iraq to get Saddam for sending a team to assassinate 41 in Kuwait City after the war. So the genesis of another 5,000 American KIA and $5T can also be laid on 41's doorstep.

3. A crew member in a bomber near Bush's aircraft said there was no fire aboard his plane after it had been hit with AA fire. The aircraft was still maneuverable enough for him to finish his bombing run. He then headed out to sea to supposedly ditch the plane. Other US aircraft fired on Jap boats headed out to get him....the other pilots downed in his squadron were captured, beaten, and beheaded. Three of them had body parts (liver and thigh muscle) served and EATEN by Jap officers. There were two other crewmen in Bush's plane....the witness in the bomber nearest him said there was no smoke in Bush's cockpit, and that he blew his canopy and bailed leaving them to die. He told his story 44 years after it happened and only when a friend demanded the American people know what he saw from the man running for President.

4. "Read my lips".....that was his solemn promise not to raise taxes....It took Speaker Tip O'Neill less than a year to get that promise broken and it rightfully cost 41 reelection.

5. Thanks to 41 we got the serial-rapist Willy Jeff and his hideous wife as First Lady.

6. He told the press he voted for Hillary in 2016...that by itself tells you all you need to know about Bush41.
Yes it's too soon. The man isn't even in the ground yet.

Everyone is so eager to SHARE THEIR HATE.

Absurd


RIP GWB
 
The left should be praising GHWB, he ushered in the era of progressive compassionate conservatism and the rhino movement. Was he a good president? I for one believe he was the right person at the right time in history, a man of honor, and deciency. The only problem was he reached across the isle to gain consensus and was slaughtered in the process for doing so by the media and left. Lesson learned, never compromise one's beliefs to gain consensus or you will eventually lose it all.
 

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