CDZ Is it Time for Germany to Get Over War Guilt?

Now's a better time than ever since the whole world seems to be forgetting why nationalist populism is a problem.
Multiculturalism is a problem. When people do not have a national heritage they become vagabonds wandering around aimlessly. Their ancestors' graves are pissed on by foreign invaders, their monuments are destroyed, their history is revised to please foreigners thus their identity is destroyed. Nationalism is bad for Global Elitists but not for nations.
If you think multiculturalism is a problem, then you think the entire United States is a problem
The U.S. has been under the Globalist Elite's attack for quite a while now. Multiculturalism is their brain child to eradicate Western civilization. Every culture has its own beauty and ugliness. Let's keep then separate from one another.

Who is this Global Elite which wants to end Western Civilization and when did it start?

The Chinese?
You are funny, aren't you? Try to look at the members of the Bilderberg Group and the Club of Rome for start.
List of Bilderberg participants - Wikipedia
full members • Members • Club of Rome

I'm really not up on this. You are telling me about it.

So the Bilderbergs and the Club of Rome are groups of largely Europeans promoting European Power?

I get this idea from the Nations list of Bilderbergs on your link and the picture of a group of people who would not look out of place at a Lutheran church at your Club of Rome link.

The Taliban, ISIS or Chinese want to end Western Civilization, right?
 
Multiculturalism is a problem. When people do not have a national heritage they become vagabonds wandering around aimlessly. Their ancestors' graves are pissed on by foreign invaders, their monuments are destroyed, their history is revised to please foreigners thus their identity is destroyed. Nationalism is bad for Global Elitists but not for nations.
If you think multiculturalism is a problem, then you think the entire United States is a problem
The U.S. has been under the Globalist Elite's attack for quite a while now. Multiculturalism is their brain child to eradicate Western civilization. Every culture has its own beauty and ugliness. Let's keep then separate from one another.

Who is this Global Elite which wants to end Western Civilization and when did it start?

The Chinese?
You are funny, aren't you? Try to look at the members of the Bilderberg Group and the Club of Rome for start.
List of Bilderberg participants - Wikipedia
full members • Members • Club of Rome

I'm really not up on this. You are telling me about it.

So the Bilderbergs and the Club of Rome are groups of largely Europeans promoting European Power?

I get this idea from the Nations list of Bilderbergs on your link and the picture of a group of people who would not look out of place at a Lutheran church at your Club of Rome link.

The Taliban, ISIS or Chinese want to end Western Civilization, right?
Your Alinsky tactics do not work on me. Just research those groups and we can talk about the Chinese later.
 
If you think multiculturalism is a problem, then you think the entire United States is a problem
The U.S. has been under the Globalist Elite's attack for quite a while now. Multiculturalism is their brain child to eradicate Western civilization. Every culture has its own beauty and ugliness. Let's keep then separate from one another.

Who is this Global Elite which wants to end Western Civilization and when did it start?

The Chinese?
You are funny, aren't you? Try to look at the members of the Bilderberg Group and the Club of Rome for start.
List of Bilderberg participants - Wikipedia
full members • Members • Club of Rome

I'm really not up on this. You are telling me about it.

So the Bilderbergs and the Club of Rome are groups of largely Europeans promoting European Power?

I get this idea from the Nations list of Bilderbergs on your link and the picture of a group of people who would not look out of place at a Lutheran church at your Club of Rome link.

The Taliban, ISIS or Chinese want to end Western Civilization, right?
Your Alinsky tactics do not work on me. Just research those groups and we can talk about the Chinese later.

I'll go through and click about your links.

They are organizations you seemingly gotta be connected to get into so I agree I dislike them. Heck, I dislike frat houses lol.

from wiki on the Bilderbergs, "The group's original goal of promoting Atlanticism, of strengthening U.S.–European relations and preventing another world war has grown; the Bilderberg Group's theme is to "bolster a consensus around free market Western capitalism and its interests around the globe" according to Andrew Kakabadse"

The Club of Rome seems more environmental. Do they have some policies allowing the developing world to use outdated technologies while chastising us for burning dirty coal or something?

William F Buckley was a Bilderberger or whatever you call it. He had some weird homosexuality views. Is that against Greek or American culture?

How about David Frum? Is or wasn't he Jewish? Is that the problem?

Timothy Collins was a Citi Group / Tri Lateral Coalition guy....Also a hedge / investment fund CEO type, right? Anything having to do with people making money off having money I am questionable about. Seems like good Conservative Capitalism though that most people love. The Tri Lateral Commission or whatever is a Europe / US / Japan trade group, right? Some Citi Group employees tried to get me to join a company sponsored real estate pyramid scheme back in '02. I've always been against them since then.

So the Club of Rome are environmental hippies or something. What's up with the Bilderbergs?
 
Germany does find it difficult to talk about the past much. Looking at the gifts of nuclear-capable submarines to Israel, there appears to be a sense of guilt. Nothing else could justify such pro-Israel policy. There remains little talk of the Final Solution.
 
Now's a better time than ever since the whole world seems to be forgetting why nationalist populism is a problem.
Multiculturalism is a problem. When people do not have a national heritage they become vagabonds wandering around aimlessly. Their ancestors' graves are pissed on by foreign invaders, their monuments are destroyed, their history is revised to please foreigners thus their identity is destroyed. Nationalism is bad for Global Elitists but not for nations.
If you think multiculturalism is a problem, then you think the entire United States is a problem
If that is what you think of the U.S.A. then you are sadly misinformed. Our country is not about MULTIculturalism, it is what has been coined a "Melting Pot" of cultures, thus creating a culture that is seen nowhere else in the world. We celebrate St.Patrick's day, as an example, not because we are all Irish, but because it has become part of our culture. In multiculturalism, the Irish would celebrate the day, and few Irish folks, if any, would celebrate Cinco DeMayo.
Let me break it down for you:
Multi- "more than one; many, especially variegated." Google
Culturalism- "...a concept in philosophy and sociology... to describe the central importance of culture as an organizing force in human affairs." https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjF-Zqi5szSAhXl6oMKHSbTDKkQFggcMAE&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culturalism&usg=AFQjCNG2AFUZRbc5de5E7vAWzZnCxp5-SA&sig2=DezgvC0Z0ryGLI1jqEUfEw&bvm=bv.149093890,d.eWE
So, a multicultural society would be one with many definitions of what is socially acceptable, social norms, and ideas about how society should work. Is that really what you want? Multiple definitions of what is socially acceptable?
When the Irish were first migrating here people hated them. People hated the Italians. People hated the Germans. They all had different social norms. But after a couple generations, they all melted into the pot.

Your Cinco de Mayo and St. Patrick's day references are stupid btw. Millions of people celebrate both, and have no idea what either mean. Just an excuse to go drinking.
That was the point though - they integrated and added to the American Culture. That is not multiculturalism but the ideal that the US was seeking, the integration of many people into an American Culture.

Today that ideal has shifted. Instead of the melting opt some groups are pushing the 'salad bowl' where individuals keep their own closed off culture rather than integrating. It is not healthy for the nation in general as we should all share one basic idea - the idea that we are all Americans.
 
That guilt is all in your head. And indeed, everyone is guilty also of not doing enough to stop it. Many countries returned runaway Jews to die. They will carry the guilt of it for it is in their books.
 
Younger Germans are starting to rebel against the penitent status their country has accepted since the end of WW2, culminating with the disastrous refugee policies of Angela Merkel. Isn't Nazi Germany as distinct from the Germany of today as the Confederacy is from the modern South?

The question is whether or not this realization has come too late. What do you think?

No, this is one of my core beliefs.

IMO Germany and all of Western Civilization needs reminded FOREVER what happens when too many ethnic purity types get together even in the modern world.

If we want to debate German immigration policy or if Germany should contribute more troops to NATO we can.

Leave it to me though and there would be a blood soaked replica of the MS St Louis, MS St. Louis - Wikipedia, in the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool to remind us.
Yellowcaust


Why didn't the Jews stay and fight? That question is never asked because the postwar ruling classes have a self-interest in making cowardice seem nothing to be ashamed of.
What were they supposed to use as weapons?
"In 1931, Weimar authorities discovered plans for a Nazi takeover in which Jews would be denied food and persons refusing to surrender their guns within 24 hours would be executed. They were written by Werner Best, a future Gestapo official. In reaction to such threats, the government authorized the registration of all firearms and the confiscation thereof, if required for “public safety.” The interior minister warned that the records must not fall into the hands of any extremist group. In 1933, the ultimate extremist group, led by Adolf Hitler, seized power and used the records to identify, disarm, and attack political opponents and Jews. Constitutional rights were suspended, and mass searches for and seizures of guns and dissident publications ensued. Police revoked gun licenses of Social Democrats and others who were not “politically reliable.”

Read more at: How the Nazis Used Gun Control, by Stephen P. Halbrook, National Review
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Something to consider the next time someone brings up "gun control".
Cormac McCarthy for Our Doomed Gentile Dhimmis

If they had had any guts and common sense, they would have hidden their guns. I blame their yellow culture on degenerate Jewish writers like Freud and Kafka.
 
Younger Germans are starting to rebel against the penitent status their country has accepted since the end of WW2, culminating with the disastrous refugee policies of Angela Merkel. Isn't Nazi Germany as distinct from the Germany of today as the Confederacy is from the modern South?

The question is whether or not this realization has come too late. What do you think?

No, this is one of my core beliefs.

IMO Germany and all of Western Civilization needs reminded FOREVER what happens when too many ethnic purity types get together even in the modern world.

If we want to debate German immigration policy or if Germany should contribute more troops to NATO we can.

Leave it to me though and there would be a blood soaked replica of the MS St Louis, MS St. Louis - Wikipedia, in the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool to remind us.
Yellowcaust


Why didn't the Jews stay and fight? That question is never asked because the postwar ruling classes have a self-interest in making cowardice seem nothing to be ashamed of.

That seems to be an uphill battle you were asking a marked man to stand and fight in a culture which somehow could tell Jew from Christian at a hundred yards. Fighting is especially problematic and less attractive than flight if you have to house your wife and children someplace while you play resistance fighter.
Fat Cats Love Mice

Tell it to the Israelis, the only Jews of that era who shouldn't bow their heads in shame. There will always be evil. It only wins where the people are pacified into pacifism.
 
The U.S. has been under the Globalist Elite's attack for quite a while now. Multiculturalism is their brain child to eradicate Western civilization. Every culture has its own beauty and ugliness. Let's keep then separate from one another.

Who is this Global Elite which wants to end Western Civilization and when did it start?

The Chinese?
You are funny, aren't you? Try to look at the members of the Bilderberg Group and the Club of Rome for start.
List of Bilderberg participants - Wikipedia
full members • Members • Club of Rome

I'm really not up on this. You are telling me about it.

So the Bilderbergs and the Club of Rome are groups of largely Europeans promoting European Power?

I get this idea from the Nations list of Bilderbergs on your link and the picture of a group of people who would not look out of place at a Lutheran church at your Club of Rome link.

The Taliban, ISIS or Chinese want to end Western Civilization, right?
Your Alinsky tactics do not work on me. Just research those groups and we can talk about the Chinese later.

I'll go through and click about your links.

They are organizations you seemingly gotta be connected to get into so I agree I dislike them. Heck, I dislike frat houses lol.

from wiki on the Bilderbergs, "The group's original goal of promoting Atlanticism, of strengthening U.S.–European relations and preventing another world war has grown; the Bilderberg Group's theme is to "bolster a consensus around free market Western capitalism and its interests around the globe" according to Andrew Kakabadse"

The Club of Rome seems more environmental. Do they have some policies allowing the developing world to use outdated technologies while chastising us for burning dirty coal or something?

William F Buckley was a Bilderberger or whatever you call it. He had some weird homosexuality views. Is that against Greek or American culture?

How about David Frum? Is or wasn't he Jewish? Is that the problem?

Timothy Collins was a Citi Group / Tri Lateral Coalition guy....Also a hedge / investment fund CEO type, right? Anything having to do with people making money off having money I am questionable about. Seems like good Conservative Capitalism though that most people love. The Tri Lateral Commission or whatever is a Europe / US / Japan trade group, right? Some Citi Group employees tried to get me to join a company sponsored real estate pyramid scheme back in '02. I've always been against them since then.

So the Club of Rome are environmental hippies or something. What's up with the Bilderbergs?
Hey, Swiss! Say Cheese!

What's up with the Swiss bankers? What gives them the right to hide the loot of tax cheats, Mafias, and sponsors of terrorism? One Tomahawk missile and all the surviving banks will open up their books. That also goes for the Caymans, etc.
 
Most people, Germans included, do not accept guilt for past misdeeds done by prior generations. Germans who were adults back in the 30s and 40s are pretty much all dead now but those few who are still around will claim it wasn't them, it was the Nazis. Sort of an interesting question though, as a nation are we all responsible for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? How about as individuals, should we feel guilt about those conflicts?
 
That guilt is all in your head. And indeed, everyone is guilty also of not doing enough to stop it. Many countries returned runaway Jews to die. They will carry the guilt of it for it is in their books.
Don't Whine About the Greatest Cowardice in History

The Inca cowards were afraid to fight, too. They ran like rabbits and were hunted down. Do we respect them, bleed our hearts for them, and lay all the blame on the Spaniards?

BATTLE OF CAJAMARCA (Peru, 1532)

Indian troops: 6,000
Spanish troops: 177

Indian dead: 2,000
Spanish dead: Zero
 
Younger Germans are starting to rebel against the penitent status their country has accepted since the end of WW2, culminating with the disastrous refugee policies of Angela Merkel. Isn't Nazi Germany as distinct from the Germany of today as the Confederacy is from the modern South?

The question is whether or not this realization has come too late. What do you think?

No, this is one of my core beliefs.

IMO Germany and all of Western Civilization needs reminded FOREVER what happens when too many ethnic purity types get together even in the modern world.

If we want to debate German immigration policy or if Germany should contribute more troops to NATO we can.

Leave it to me though and there would be a blood soaked replica of the MS St Louis, MS St. Louis - Wikipedia, in the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool to remind us.
Yellowcaust


Why didn't the Jews stay and fight? That question is never asked because the postwar ruling classes have a self-interest in making cowardice seem nothing to be ashamed of.
Same can be asked of the Cubans in Miami, or the many Syrian refugee of military age that are fleeing Syria.
 
Younger Germans are starting to rebel against the penitent status their country has accepted since the end of WW2, culminating with the disastrous refugee policies of Angela Merkel. Isn't Nazi Germany as distinct from the Germany of today as the Confederacy is from the modern South?

The question is whether or not this realization has come too late. What do you think?

No, this is one of my core beliefs.

IMO Germany and all of Western Civilization needs reminded FOREVER what happens when too many ethnic purity types get together even in the modern world.

If we want to debate German immigration policy or if Germany should contribute more troops to NATO we can.

Leave it to me though and there would be a blood soaked replica of the MS St Louis, MS St. Louis - Wikipedia, in the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool to remind us.


The problem was socialism....it concentrated too much power in the central government....so when evil socialists came to power, they had a lot of power to use against their enemies.......that is why we want a limited, small government....it keeps socialists from murdering millions of people...
 
That guilt is all in your head. And indeed, everyone is guilty also of not doing enough to stop it. Many countries returned runaway Jews to die. They will carry the guilt of it for it is in their books.
Don't Whine About the Greatest Cowardice in History

The Inca cowards were afraid to fight, too. They ran like rabbits and were hunted down. Do we respect them, bleed our hearts for them, and lay all the blame on the Spaniards?

BATTLE OF CAJAMARCA (Peru, 1532)

Indian troops: 6,000
Spanish troops: 177

Indian dead: 2,000
Spanish dead: Zero

Ever hear the old saw about bringing a knife to a gunfight? That's what the Incas did, unarmed except for small ceremonial knives and not expecting a battle. Ambushed by armor-wearing Spanish troops with swords, guns, and cannon and their emperor captured, they must've been totally shocked. So should we respect them? Not really, they were no doubt on the other end of more than one massacre. Bleed our hearts for them? Nope. Lay all the blame on the Spanish? Most of it, yeah.
 
Younger Germans are starting to rebel against the penitent status their country has accepted since the end of WW2, culminating with the disastrous refugee policies of Angela Merkel. Isn't Nazi Germany as distinct from the Germany of today as the Confederacy is from the modern South?

The question is whether or not this realization has come too late. What do you think?
What war guilt? I am innocent. Wars started by me: 0.
 
That guilt is all in your head. And indeed, everyone is guilty also of not doing enough to stop it. Many countries returned runaway Jews to die. They will carry the guilt of it for it is in their books.
Don't Whine About the Greatest Cowardice in History

The Inca cowards were afraid to fight, too. They ran like rabbits and were hunted down. Do we respect them, bleed our hearts for them, and lay all the blame on the Spaniards?

BATTLE OF CAJAMARCA (Peru, 1532)

Indian troops: 6,000
Spanish troops: 177

Indian dead: 2,000
Spanish dead: Zero

The Spanish had guns, the Incas didn't.
 
That guilt is all in your head. And indeed, everyone is guilty also of not doing enough to stop it. Many countries returned runaway Jews to die. They will carry the guilt of it for it is in their books.
Don't Whine About the Greatest Cowardice in History

The Inca cowards were afraid to fight, too. They ran like rabbits and were hunted down. Do we respect them, bleed our hearts for them, and lay all the blame on the Spaniards?

BATTLE OF CAJAMARCA (Peru, 1532)

Indian troops: 6,000
Spanish troops: 177

Indian dead: 2,000
Spanish dead: Zero

The Spanish had guns, the Incas didn't.

The Races Are Descended From Different Primate Species

The Spanish deserved to be rewarded for the superior IQs that enabled them to develop superior weaponry. The Indians were incapable of ever developing that far; they had reached the limits of their evolution and are living on borrowed time even now.
 
Younger Germans are starting to rebel against the penitent status their country has accepted since the end of WW2, culminating with the disastrous refugee policies of Angela Merkel. Isn't Nazi Germany as distinct from the Germany of today as the Confederacy is from the modern South?

The question is whether or not this realization has come too late. What do you think?
Should have never had guilt,they did nothing wrong. PERIOD.
 
Younger Germans are starting to rebel against the penitent status their country has accepted since the end of WW2, culminating with the disastrous refugee policies of Angela Merkel. Isn't Nazi Germany as distinct from the Germany of today as the Confederacy is from the modern South?

The question is whether or not this realization has come too late. What do you think?

No, this is one of my core beliefs.

IMO Germany and all of Western Civilization needs reminded FOREVER what happens when too many ethnic purity types get together even in the modern world.

If we want to debate German immigration policy or if Germany should contribute more troops to NATO we can.

Leave it to me though and there would be a blood soaked replica of the MS St Louis, MS St. Louis - Wikipedia, in the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool to remind us.
Yellowcaust


Why didn't the Jews stay and fight? That question is never asked because the postwar ruling classes have a self-interest in making cowardice seem nothing to be ashamed of.
What were they supposed to use as weapons?
"In 1931, Weimar authorities discovered plans for a Nazi takeover in which Jews would be denied food and persons refusing to surrender their guns within 24 hours would be executed. They were written by Werner Best, a future Gestapo official. In reaction to such threats, the government authorized the registration of all firearms and the confiscation thereof, if required for “public safety.” The interior minister warned that the records must not fall into the hands of any extremist group. In 1933, the ultimate extremist group, led by Adolf Hitler, seized power and used the records to identify, disarm, and attack political opponents and Jews. Constitutional rights were suspended, and mass searches for and seizures of guns and dissident publications ensued. Police revoked gun licenses of Social Democrats and others who were not “politically reliable.”

Read more at: How the Nazis Used Gun Control, by Stephen P. Halbrook, National Review
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Something to consider the next time someone brings up "gun control".
And yet he ABOLISHED gun laws that had been enacted by the Weimar Republic and EXPANDED gun rights to Germans in Germany. He only disarmed the ENEMY of the state that being the Jew. Rightfully so.
 

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