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Charities can and do successfully but the bite on patrons for more money when they need it, and patrons usually will respond. ...
In a perfect world.
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Charities can and do successfully but the bite on patrons for more money when they need it, and patrons usually will respond. ...
I don't think they're all that inefficient. The military, VA, medicare, social security, roads, sanitation, schools, police, etc....it all works pretty well.
Promoting the general welfare of individuals does promote the general welfare of the country.
I'm sure it is. That doesn't mean a private company would do a better job. There would certainly be less accountability.Guaranteeing everyone sex does too.... giving everyone $30,000 does too... but neither those, nor taking over the personal responsibility of individuals, even for their own "welfare", is not the responsibility of government... nor should it be
And maybe you should actually look at the efficiency of govt spending on military, schools, etc sometime... the waste, red-tape, corruption, etc, is staggering
I'm sure it is. That doesn't mean a private company would do a better job. There would certainly be less accountability.
I'm not advocating guaranteeing everyone sex or giving everyone $30,000 and I'm also not supportive of our current welfare system. But I disagree that it isn't the government's responsibility. If we as a people say that it is, it is. And I haven't seen anyone doing much to get rid of it.
It is not in the purpose of the government as we were founded... just because something is a popular whim, does not mean it is right to do.... and THAT is precisely why we are NOT a democracy, but a representative constitutional republic with democratically elected officials... to protect against the whim and/or tyranny of popular whim... to preserve liberty
And you don't see much to get rid of it... because f the corruption that is the handout system.. the basic buying of votes of those receiving the handouts, to keep the system intact... and the lack of challenge by those who understand that that is not the purpose of our government
I don't think the welfare system has ever been put to a popular vote, it was enacted by Congress so I'm not sure where you are getting the idea it doesn't fit in with our way of government.
How on earth can it be "immoral" to have a lot of resources?
More proof America is becoming a third world nation due to republican voodoo economics. A hard question: Is it moral (not legal) to make that much money?
"Piketty and Saezs top bracket comprises 0.01 percent of U.S. taxpayers. There are 14,400 of them, earning an average of $12,775,000, with total earnings of $184 billion. The minimum annual income in this group is more than $5 million, so it seems reasonable to suppose that they could, without much hardship, give away a third of their annual income, an average of $4.3 million each, for a total of around $61 billion. That would still leave each of them with an annual income of at least $3.3 million.
Next comes the rest of the top 0.1 percent (excluding the category just described, as I shall do henceforth). There are 129,600 in this group, with an average income of just over $2 million and a minimum income of $1.1 million. If they were each to give a quarter of their income, that would yield about $65 billion, and leave each of them with at least $846,000 annually."
What Should a Billionaire Give and What Should You? Peter Singer
"What is a human life worth? You may not want to put a price tag on a it. But if we really had to, most of us would agree that the value of a human life would be in the millions. Consistent with the foundations of our democracy and our frequently professed belief in the inherent dignity of human beings, we would also agree that all humans are created equal, at least to the extent of denying that differences of sex, ethnicity, nationality and place of residence change the value of a human life."
What Should a Billionaire Give and What Should You?, by Peter Singer
All this whining abut 'socialism', yet other countries do it just fine, and achieve standards of living surpssing our own. And, they manage not to turn into a bunch of system sucking leeches.
Anyone reas much about the miraculous economic turnarounds in Ireland or Finland?
Largely thanks to socialism. And ya know what? They don't pay THAT much more in taxes than we already yo.
Nevertheless, they now have raging good economies.
All the crap you read here about socialism...is based on people's fantasies.
Total imagination and testosterone.
Time to retire yourselves, donosaurs. The rest of us don't care that you don't care about the rest of us. Evolve, or get the fuck outta the way.
I never thought of that.
What do you think is the fairest and most logical way to tax people?
the problem has to do more with this
Haves and Have-Nots: Income Inequality in America : NPR
the rich getting much richer, everyone else staying the same or even earning less. have those people really worked that much harder to to get more? has everyone else worked less? call me crazy, but i think that if America is getting 'richer' some of it should go to the other 99%, not just the top 1%. is simply taking all the $$ and redistributing it the way to go? no. but the system sure seems to be broken or at least highly skewed
Got nothing to do with whining.
I know.
Truth hurts.
But you should read about those two countries, and how they did it.
Unless of course you're comfortable playing pretend against the "boogy man" called socialism.
which is retarded.
here we go again.
If everyone else but the rich are getting poorer then how come there are more first generation millionaires in America every year?
Only in America by Walter Williams -- Capitalism Magazine
Record number of millionaires - May. 25, 2005
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - The number of millionaires in America reached record highs in 2004, hitting 7.5 million, according to a new survey.
That represented a gain of 21 percent, the largest jump in the number of U.S. millionaires since 1998, according to the survey by the Spectrem Group, a Chicago-based research firm.
I'll tell you why. There are still some people who believe they can be successful and they sacrifice for it. they work harder than most, save and invest more than most and you think that somehow makes them evil. Shouldn't we be emulating these types of achievers instead of vilifying them?