Is it good to have a president?

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    There has been talk here about voting for a person instead of a party. So far it hasn't been tested. But if I like a party but not the partys leader I am sort of stuck, the leader of this party can be PM again and again. This is bad, all he/she does year after year is "looking for votes" for a new term in power.

    On the other hand it seems that if you have a president he knows he can't be elected a third time. Thereby (for good and bad) he doesn't have to care as much for his voters the second term. Generally and if you can try to leave out left/right stuff, does it seem to be better or worse leadership the second term? I guess you'll have to look back to see the effects of unpopular descitions made the second term.
     
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    The PM still has to keep the confidence of the legislature. There are no leadership guarantees. Coalitions have been formed forcing the disolution of government, despite election outcomes.
     
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    Yes, but he has to screw up really, really bad for such a thing to happen. (Happend once here that I know of). As long as it just rolls along, nothing really changes. This year, we have an upcoming election, and already everything is just so.. you know, promises and stuff. Nothing is for real and everyone knows it. Each party picks some "key issues" and then lie a little bit extra about those.

    Do you have any reflections about second term desictions made in the past?
     
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    But, a certain amount of pandering must be done to keep the opposition happy, just because it isn't done often, doesn't mean that it wasn't close or prevented.

    Second term executives tend to start unravelling around the middle of their second term. How many make it to a third where you're from?
     
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    Well I agree on that. Coalitions sometimes do form or are threated with. (Also another troublesome effect arises when a small supporting party gets way too much power because of its necessary support to achieve majority).

    Four since WWII. No one has made a fourth.
     
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    I can't think of any off hand who've made to a third here in Canada. I should look it up!
     
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    Trudeau?
     
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    Yes, I think he was. His last term came about from the last non-confidence vote ousting Clark's conservatives in less than a year.
     
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    Ah, yes, poor Joe Who. Fascinating man Trudeau.

    Oops sorry, thread drift.
     
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    Trudeau was a communist. He probably would have carried a card if was politically acceptable.

    But yes, off topic.
     

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