P F Tinmore
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So are you saying that Hamas-ruled Gaza is democratic and Israel is not?
No, that is not what I am saying. I am saying that Gaza had a democratic election which by all accounts was free and fair and when Hamas won the vote democratically the US, Israel and everyone else says - well we won't speak to you then. The world did not respect the democratic vote. Had they a different picture would have emerged. Exactly what we do not know.
Then you further have the US interfering causing bloodshed
Hey, moron, Hamas won't negotiate with Israel, either. But they will kidnap and torture their soldiers and fire rockets into Sderot.
Will you stop putting forth Avnery's stuff like it's fact? You know I don't agree with him on hardly anything. Can you not think for yourself or can you only link leftist shit?
Anyone with a PhD can be an expert in political theory. Again, Israel has free speech, religion, etc. Look at the protests that the anti-Israeli Pals are allowed to do...it's a democracy...maybe you don't like it, but don't be silly.
Thanks again for pointing out that Hamas is not a democratic body.
Every country has boycott laws. You can boycott stuff in Israel. You just may get sued for slander.
Israel does NOT take directive from the New York fucking Times! wtf!
But no right to boycott the settlements. There are also infinite differences between the rights of Jews and Muslims - re - jobs, education, housing, immigration and so on.
Immigration is the only right in which they differ, and every country has a right to set its own immigration laws. Since Israel is a JEWISH STATE, it makes sense that Jews can immigrate easier than non-Jews. Duh.
I can't go to many Islamic countries because I'm Jewish. Are they undemocratic?
It's not Israel's fault if Muslims want to have 10 kids live in ghettos. Birth control is free in Israel. They still get health care and welfare checks, though. It is expensive to live in Israel. Jews suffer, too...hello, tent city?!
Indeed and they move about freely to illegally settle other people's land.
International law is a joke. But if you want to apply the concepts of international law, then Israel won the territories after it was attacked.
Hamas won't negotiate with Israel,
Israel will not talk to Hamas because Hamas will not agree with Israel's preconditions.