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So cartoons are convincing scientific evidence of a coverup? Please...
So cartoons are convincing scientific evidence of a coverup? Please...
Yes... because ummm... we're just obtuse like that.So cartoons are convincing scientific evidence of a coverup? Please...
so code, I will modify my statement.
Facts we all agree on:
In enclosed environment experiments those with higher CO2/greenhouse gas content experience higher temperatures than those with a normal atmospheric percentages.
Humans increase atmospheric CO2 up to 5% yearly, and thanks to this its according high historically right now according to ice core samples. (a steady 2% doubles it in 50 years or so, 5%,20)
That seems to be what we agree on.
Besides that, everyone has an opinion concerning even the formerly "obvious" decade long trend of the loss of polar ice. Ask shipping companies that go through the northeast passage now if its more open than before. (sorry for calling it northwest in homage to the old search)
Regardless, that opening could be part of a natural cycle (like you mentioned), or could not.
What percentage of could or could not is up for debate. Also is the percentage of risk different ppl are willing to take in regards to "it could be our fault"
Can I say:
"Extrapolating the small scale tests on greenhouse gas effects on enclosed environment onto a world wide level is thought of as foolhardy by some." (I feel this is akin to being careful increasing the presence of any substance around humans that causes cancer to rats.)
My point would be, "If there is a 5% chance giving your kid milk out of a lead cup will make him 5% dumber do you take the chance to avoid buying a proper bottle?" 50% 25% 75% who knows how important that buck we can save in exhaust technology is.
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Don't take me wrong. I post a lot on this issue but I'm not going to do anything crazy like outlaw buying oil from terrorists or post de facto outlaw older cars. I'd even maintain CAFE standards which make sure cars don't fall below 1990 horsepower levels (I won't make CAFE standards so high everyone has to buy an Aveo)
Global Warming is real.
The questions are, however, what are the effects and what we should do about them? It may be that the effects are small and we should not do much. I doubt that it will End Mankind As We Know It that some of the more fervent believers purport.
The emails were stolen.
The investigation has just begun.
In the end I think you will see some people go to jail for stealing private information and the data will hold firm.
Yes, stealing emails is a major crime....but not when it's Sarah Palin's emails.
We've got to forget about that little issue about a hoax that's being used to steal trillions from consumers around the world.
That's a none issue.
I am looking for information regarding the scientists that collect data on Global climate temperatures. Is it true? Did they "FIX" the data? Why would they do something as stupid as that? Or is this an attack by the Right wing due to the undesirable effects of rampant regulations would cause to economic growth?
Is it real--Or is it fake?
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Image 6 of 6 (play slideshow) DownloadRecord sea ice in Antarctica, global warming to blame.
Don't laugh, they actually belueve it
Really? Documented like this;Well the whole CO2 part is most definitely a scam......well documented in this forum by members not in the climate crusaders club.
Image 6 of 6 (play slideshow) DownloadRecord sea ice in Antarctica, global warming to blame.
Don't laugh, they actually belueve it
Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis | Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag
Well yes, there is record low sea ice in Antarctica. And low sea ice is usually caused be warming. However, this change from the previous record high sea ice is not well understood at this time. If it continues, we will have apparently crossed a tipping point we were unaware of.
this thread has still not been moved to the conspiracy forum - surprise!.....not.