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Kind of debunks the whole notion of "palling around with terrorists", don't it?
I didn't realize that opinions could be so strong as to erase documented history. Thanks for clearing that up.
What "history"?
This was a bullshit talking point debunked multiple times.
Bush first. Then we can talk about Obama.
You've said this many times and its lame every time. You either believe that Obama is committing war crimes and want him prosecuted or you don't believe it? Which is it?
What war crime?
If it weren't for an FBI screwup on his and his wife cases, they would both have been in jail.
Backbone?? Not hardly. He and his wife are criminals who got away with it.
If it weren't for an FBI screwup on his and his wife cases, they would both have been in jail.
Backbone?? Not hardly. He and his wife are criminals who got away with it.
I tend to think Ayers is a gutless pig. But when I view this matter just on this one plain, I can't help but think that Ayers is showing a lot of backbone and that's counter to what I get from liberals and many conservative these days. That's the only point I'm making. One can't find truth through constant denials. Both sides want us to be trained like their little bitches. Why do that?
If it weren't for an FBI screwup on his and his wife cases, they would both have been in jail.
Backbone?? Not hardly. He and his wife are criminals who got away with it.
Has Bill Ayers done some bad things? Yes. Has he said some bad things? Yes. Does he have crazy positions, imo? Yes. Does he always have good motives, imo? No.
But, he actually gave the liberal god, Obama an F. He actually said that Obama should be tried for his war crimes. And he did so, very publicly, on camera. This is way more backbone than most liberals and arguably most conservatives have these days, is it not?
Bill Ayers Exclusive: 'Try Obama for War Crimes' 6/18/2013 - YouTube
If it weren't for an FBI screwup on his and his wife cases, they would both have been in jail.
Backbone?? Not hardly. He and his wife are criminals who got away with it.
Has Bill Ayers done some bad things? Yes. Has he said some bad things? Yes. Does he have crazy positions, imo? Yes. Does he always have good motives, imo? No.
But, he actually gave the liberal god, Obama an F. He actually said that Obama should be tried for his war crimes. And he did so, very publicly, on camera. This is way more backbone than most liberals and arguably most conservatives have these days, is it not?
Bill Ayers Exclusive: 'Try Obama for War Crimes' 6/18/2013 - YouTube
He also said that both Bushes and Bill Clinton should be tried for war crimes.
Seems to be more an exercise in habit than in courage.
Look, both Bush and Obama has taken the drone program to where it should not be. I find it idiotic to compare waterboarding to the drone program although they both may fall under war crimes.
What Ayers actually was doing was trying to pretend to be objective. He built up Obama as some sort of demi-god then when asked he his reply was a reply of hate America first. He could hardly blame every president in this century for war crime then leave out Obama. If push comes to shove Ayers would fold like a stack of cards.
Besides why is Ayers being asked about a person he hardly knows?
You've said this many times and its lame every time. You either believe that Obama is committing war crimes and want him prosecuted or you don't believe it? Which is it?
What war crime?
I realize that the Obama defenders have their blood lust up but just because we can doesn't mean we do.
UN Official: Aspects of US Drone Program Clearly 'War Crimes'
Victims demand the accountability of public officials and the rule of law, not more human rights violations, Emmerson said.
Emmerson specifically addressed the failed logic of what is widely called 'the global war on terror,' arguing the construct of a 'global war paradigm' has been repeatedly used to justify acts that severe long-held notions of international law. He said:
The global war paradigm has done immense damage to a previously shared international consensus on the legal framework underlying both international human rights law and international humanitarian law... It has also given a spurious justification to a range of serious human rights and humanitarian law violations.
The [global] war paradigm was always based on the flimsiest of reasoning, and was not supported even by close allies of the US. The first-term Obama administration initially retreated from this approach, but over the past 18 months it has begun to rear its head once again, in briefings by administration officials seeking to provide a legal justification for the drone program of targeted killing in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia
[It is] alleged that since President Obama took office at least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes when they had gone to help victims and more than 20 civilians have also been attacked in deliberate strikes on funerals and mourners. Christof Heyns has described such attacks, if they prove to have happened, as war crimes. I would endorse that view.
What war crime?
I realize that the Obama defenders have their blood lust up but just because we can doesn't mean we do.
UN Official: Aspects of US Drone Program Clearly 'War Crimes'
Victims demand the accountability of public officials and the rule of law, not more human rights violations, Emmerson said.
Emmerson specifically addressed the failed logic of what is widely called 'the global war on terror,' arguing the construct of a 'global war paradigm' has been repeatedly used to justify acts that severe long-held notions of international law. He said:
The global war paradigm has done immense damage to a previously shared international consensus on the legal framework underlying both international human rights law and international humanitarian law... It has also given a spurious justification to a range of serious human rights and humanitarian law violations.
The [global] war paradigm was always based on the flimsiest of reasoning, and was not supported even by close allies of the US. The first-term Obama administration initially retreated from this approach, but over the past 18 months it has begun to rear its head once again, in briefings by administration officials seeking to provide a legal justification for the drone program of targeted killing in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia
[It is] alleged that since President Obama took office at least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes when they had gone to help victims and more than 20 civilians have also been attacked in deliberate strikes on funerals and mourners. Christof Heyns has described such attacks, if they prove to have happened, as war crimes. I would endorse that view.
So now you do think that the US should listen to the world?
When did you have this epiphany? Exactly?
I realize that the Obama defenders have their blood lust up but just because we can doesn't mean we do.
UN Official: Aspects of US Drone Program Clearly 'War Crimes'
Victims demand the accountability of public officials and the rule of law, not more human rights violations, Emmerson said.
Emmerson specifically addressed the failed logic of what is widely called 'the global war on terror,' arguing the construct of a 'global war paradigm' has been repeatedly used to justify acts that severe long-held notions of international law. He said:
The global war paradigm has done immense damage to a previously shared international consensus on the legal framework underlying both international human rights law and international humanitarian law... It has also given a spurious justification to a range of serious human rights and humanitarian law violations.
The [global] war paradigm was always based on the flimsiest of reasoning, and was not supported even by close allies of the US. The first-term Obama administration initially retreated from this approach, but over the past 18 months it has begun to rear its head once again, in briefings by administration officials seeking to provide a legal justification for the drone program of targeted killing in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia
[It is] alleged that since President Obama took office at least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes when they had gone to help victims and more than 20 civilians have also been attacked in deliberate strikes on funerals and mourners. Christof Heyns has described such attacks, if they prove to have happened, as war crimes. I would endorse that view.
So now you do think that the US should listen to the world?
When did you have this epiphany? Exactly?
Of course that wasn't the question asked.
Has Bill Ayers done some bad things? Yes. Has he said some bad things? Yes. Does he have crazy positions, imo? Yes. Does he always have good motives, imo? No.
But, he actually gave the liberal god, Obama an F. He actually said that Obama should be tried for his war crimes. And he did so, very publicly, on camera. This is way more backbone than most liberals and arguably most conservatives have these days, is it not?
Bill Ayers Exclusive: 'Try Obama for War Crimes' 6/18/2013 - YouTube
You've said this many times and its lame every time. You either believe that Obama is committing war crimes and want him prosecuted or you don't believe it? Which is it?
What war crime?
I realize that the Obama defenders have their blood lust up but just because we can doesn't mean we do.
UN Official: Aspects of US Drone Program Clearly 'War Crimes'
Victims demand the accountability of public officials and the rule of law, not more human rights violations, Emmerson said.
Emmerson specifically addressed the failed logic of what is widely called 'the global war on terror,' arguing the construct of a 'global war paradigm' has been repeatedly used to justify acts that severe long-held notions of international law. He said:
The global war paradigm has done immense damage to a previously shared international consensus on the legal framework underlying both international human rights law and international humanitarian law... It has also given a spurious justification to a range of serious human rights and humanitarian law violations.
The [global] war paradigm was always based on the flimsiest of reasoning, and was not supported even by close allies of the US. The first-term Obama administration initially retreated from this approach, but over the past 18 months it has begun to rear its head once again, in briefings by administration officials seeking to provide a legal justification for the drone program of targeted killing in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia
[It is] alleged that since President Obama took office at least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes when they had gone to help victims and more than 20 civilians have also been attacked in deliberate strikes on funerals and mourners. Christof Heyns has described such attacks, if they prove to have happened, as war crimes. I would endorse that view.
Despite Republicans howling about how they really don't hate Obama just this week we saw Republicans cheer for China to "beat Obama" and now they are reversing six years of outrage and disgust to side with someone they themselves called a terrorist.
This happened all in a week. Stunning
Has Bill Ayers done some bad things? Yes. Has he said some bad things? Yes. Does he have crazy positions, imo? Yes. Does he always have good motives, imo? No.
But, he actually gave the liberal god, Obama an F. He actually said that Obama should be tried for his war crimes. And he did so, very publicly, on camera. This is way more backbone than most liberals and arguably most conservatives have these days, is it not?
Bill Ayers Exclusive: 'Try Obama for War Crimes' 6/18/2013 - YouTube
And it seems, Germany gave him the finger too, since 2008.
Berlin Speech: 200,000 for Obama in 2008; Only 6,000 Today...
Ayers has no backbone.
Despite Republicans howling about how they really don't hate Obama just this week we saw Republicans cheer for China to "beat Obama" and now they are reversing six years of outrage and disgust to side with someone they themselves called a terrorist.
This happened all in a week. Stunning
I've NEVER said I don't hate Obama. Wouldn't anyone really hate someone who was trying to steal or murder their loved one? Here is why I hate Obama: ( even though I know hate is bad for the spirit, but I do compartmentalize it )
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgnWt13aO9k]Obama "Fundamentally Transforming the United States of America" - YouTube[/ame]
