Iraq told us to LEAVE "their" country - PERIOD!

[paulitician]

Yet we want back in. And now, War with Syria. Go figure? Permanent War is the goal. Because out of chaos comes order... A New World Order.

 

[frigidweirdo]

History repeats itself.

Britain invades Iraq. Britain makes Iraq with a puppet Saudi king. The Iraqis kick out the Saudi king and put in the Ba'ath party.
Britain and the US invade Iraq with a puppet Iraqi leadership. The Iraqis are trying to kick out the puppet and want to put in something else.
When will Britain and the US invade Iraq again and put in another puppet?

Never. Even if they wanted to in 2003 they couldn't and didn't. Its a false concern at this point.

They didn't invade Iraq in 2003? I'm lost.
When will they invade again? I bet it happens. History repeats itself.

Afghanistan repeated itself three times for the British.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

The decision to pull out all of the US troops from Iraq was Barack Obama's.

No. Obama clearly decided not to keep troops in on Iraq's politician's terms. No US President should be dictated to by a foreign government when it comes to anything - the alone the legal status of US troops.

 

[paulitician]

Stop the meddling and killing all over the world. That's my advice to the U.S. and Great Britain. They're by far the two most meddlesome nations on earth. They're everywhere stirring up turmoil. They've set the Middle East on fire with their constant meddling. ISIS is just another one of their gruesome creations. It's time for a humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy. That time has truly come.

 

[Avatar4321]

Can we go back to non-interventionism once we've intervened? It's hard to step back to neutrality when we've been in favor of someone or something.

 

[Oldstyle]

The decision to pull out all of the US troops from Iraq was Barack Obama's.

No. Obama clearly decided not to keep troops in on Iraq's politician's terms. No US President should be dictated to by a foreign government when it comes to anything - the alone the legal status of US troops.

To be quite blunt, Notfooled...Maliki was in power because we put him in power! If Barack Obama had insisted that we would be keeping 10,000 US troops in country...those men would have stayed. Anyone maintaining that isn't the case is woefully naive!

 

[Oldstyle]

Stop the meddling and killing all over the world. That's my advice to the U.S. and Great Britain. They're by far the two most meddlesome nations on earth. They're everywhere stirring up turmoil. They've set the Middle East on fire with their constant meddling. ISIS is just another one of their gruesome creations. It's time for a humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy. That time has truly come.

ISIS wasn't created by the US and Great Britain. Pretending they'll behave if we stop "meddling" in the Middle East is wishful thinking. There are bad people in the world that slaughter innocent people because of things like the color of their skin or their religion. The time has come for civilized people to join together and excise the cancer that ISIS is.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

They didn't invade Iraq in 2003? I'm lost.

It is no wonder you are lost because I didn't say the US and UK did not invade Iraq in 2003. I was saying in my response that "Britain and the US" DID NOT "invade Iraq with a puppet Iraqi leadership."

So who was the 'puppet Iraqi leadership' that the US and UK
Invaded Iraq with? Do you mean Ahnad Chalabi? He was never installed as a Puppet.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

• ..Maliki was in power because we put him in power!

Maliki was in power just like Obama is in power in the US as the democratic process in Iraq worked in Maliki's favor.

Here's an account from back in 2010.

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By Leila Fadel. Washington Post Foreign Service Friday, October 1, 2010; 11:38 PM

BAGHDAD - A coalition of Shiite political blocs chose Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki as its candidate for Iraq's top government job on Friday afternoon - a step that could break a months-long standoff over who will govern the country.

Despite the new support, Maliki must still find more votes in the Iraqi parliament if he is to remain in power and form a new government. The fact that the Shiites now supporting Maliki are mostly Sadrists - followers of radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr who staunchly oppose the American presence here - also has the potential to alarm Washington. At the same time, the possibility that Maliki might be moving closer to claiming power has alienated others in Iraq and threatens to splinter the broader Shiite alliance.

Shiite bloc backs Maliki for Iraqi prime minister election deadlock nears end

There is no way the US military could install an Iraqi premier.




[QUOTE="Oldstyle, post: 9702451, member: 31215" If Barack Obama had insisted that we would be keeping 10,000 US troops in country...those men would have stayed. [/QUOTE]

No they would not have stayed because Obama has no authority or power over Iraq's people and their government to force terms on them they would not accept. Its not a matter of being naive - you are simply wrong.

 

[paulitician]

Stop the meddling and killing all over the world. That's my advice to the U.S. and Great Britain. They're by far the two most meddlesome nations on earth. They're everywhere stirring up turmoil. They've set the Middle East on fire with their constant meddling. ISIS is just another one of their gruesome creations. It's time for a humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy. That time has truly come.

ISIS wasn't created by the US and Great Britain. Pretending they'll behave if we stop "meddling" in the Middle East is wishful thinking. There are bad people in the world that slaughter innocent people because of things like the color of their skin or their religion. The time has come for civilized people to join together and excise the cancer that ISIS is.

Isis didn't just magically appear. Neither did their money & weapons. They've been very well-funded and armed. And who do you think provided them with the funds & arms? Think about it. Which nations in this world wanted Assad 'Regime Changed?' Once you answer that question, you'll know who created ISIS.

 

[edthecynic]

Stop the meddling and killing all over the world. That's my advice to the U.S. and Great Britain. They're by far the two most meddlesome nations on earth. They're everywhere stirring up turmoil. They've set the Middle East on fire with their constant meddling. ISIS is just another one of their gruesome creations. It's time for a humble balanced Non-Interventionist Foreign Policy. That time has truly come.

ISIS wasn't created by the US and Great Britain. Pretending they'll behave if we stop "meddling" in the Middle East is wishful thinking. There are bad people in the world that slaughter innocent people because of things like the color of their skin or their religion. The time has come for civilized people to join together and excise the cancer that ISIS is.

Isis didn't just magically appear. Neither did their money & weapons. They've been very well-funded and armed. And who do you think provided them with the funds & arms? Think about it. Which nations in this world wanted Assad 'Regime Changed?' Once you answer that question, you'll know who created ISIS.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/23/o...-with-saudi-support-for-salafi-hate.html?_r=0

Let’s be clear: Al Qaeda, the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, Boko Haram, the Shabab and others are all violent Sunni Salafi groupings. For five decades, Saudi Arabia has been the official sponsor of Sunni Salafism across the globe.

 

[paulitician]

Yet we just won't listen. More 'Regime Change.' Another Puppet. And the Globalist Elites' Permanent State of War drags on.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

TheT 9621766

Blaming BUSH after six years of Obama being in charge holds ZERO water. Obama OWNS THIS.

Obama owns what exactly? Killing DAIISH dickheads without putting Americans into direct combat on the ground in Iraq or in Syria? The passage of time does not erase the rightfully bestowed blame Bush received for deciding to launch a dumb invasion and then mismanage the ensuing occupation,

 

[MaryL]

As a right winger: America never ever should have invaded Iraq , So if Iraq wants us out, I don't have a problem with that. Adios, amigos. Bye bye, good luck.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

MaryL 10438321

As a right winger: America never ever should have invaded Iraq , So if Iraq wants us out, I don't have a problem with that. Adios, amigos. Bye bye, good luck.

Good for you right winger, I understand that Iraq wants our air strikes and some training and advisers, But no combat troops on the ground where the action is, I'm for that requestmeasily

 

[Jarlaxle]

Walk away and let them kill each other, or sterilize the place with neutron bombs.

 

[deltex1]

How many times on these threads have USMB right wingers said "Obama's decision to leave blah blah blah......"?

How many times have we posted links with Maliki telling us keeping troops in Iraq was NOT an option????

What is it that Right wingers don't get?

We couldn't stay.

That was the agreement.

And why couldn't we agree to stay? Because Maliki wanted US troops under Iraqi law. US troops could be prosecuted on a whim. That would never happen. Think about the disaster that would cause our soldiers.

They wouldn't back down because they wanted us gone.

Iraq wanted us gone.

Iraq didn't want us there.

We couldn't stay past the agreement they made with Bush.

Is this so hard to understand? Seriously?

Iraq told W not to invade. W told them to fuck off. Obabble could have done the same. But he has no balls.

 

[protectionist]

TheT 9621766

Blaming BUSH after six years of Obama being in charge holds ZERO water. Obama OWNS THIS.

Obama owns what exactly? Killing DAIISH dickheads without putting Americans into direct combat on the ground in Iraq or in Syria? The passage of time does not erase the rightfully bestowed blame Bush received for deciding to launch a dumb invasion and then mismanage the ensuing occupation,

It WASN'T dumb, as evidenced by the ISIS invasion. Only thing dumb was agreeing to pull out, and then doing that.

 

[edthecynic]

TheT 9621766

Blaming BUSH after six years of Obama being in charge holds ZERO water. Obama OWNS THIS.

Obama owns what exactly? Killing DAIISH dickheads without putting Americans into direct combat on the ground in Iraq or in Syria? The passage of time does not erase the rightfully bestowed blame Bush received for deciding to launch a dumb invasion and then mismanage the ensuing occupation,

It WASN'T dumb, as evidenced by the ISIS invasion. Only thing dumb was agreeing to pull out, and then doing that.

ISIL is proof of just how dumb W's invasion was!!!

 

[AntiParty]

How many times on these threads have USMB right wingers said "Obama's decision to leave blah blah blah......"?

How many times have we posted links with Maliki telling us keeping troops in Iraq was NOT an option????

What is it that Right wingers don't get?

We couldn't stay.

That was the agreement.

And why couldn't we agree to stay? Because Maliki wanted US troops under Iraqi law. US troops could be prosecuted on a whim. That would never happen. Think about the disaster that would cause our soldiers.

They wouldn't back down because they wanted us gone.

Iraq wanted us gone.

The destruction of common sense politics in America requires a Party System. The same Corporations fund both parties and require them to fight in order to dance around the actual flaw in the system.

The people are fighting and the puppet masters are laughing at our inability to spot the flaws.

Iraq didn't want us there.

We couldn't stay past the agreement they made with Bush.

Is this so hard to understand? Seriously?