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    A few requests, please.

    1) Mods. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE leave this in current events where more eyes can see this. This is a very important topic and the cable news are doing a horrendous job covering it and so most Americans are getting no information about whats actually happening. Please leave it here.

    2) Please don't debate the merits of invading, not invading, speeches, not making speeches, Obama, the Mullahs, whatever. There are multiple threads which have arguments about Iran in them, feel free to take it there.

    And a caveat:

    I am posting up to the minute (when I can) updates about whats going on. This is going to include information from a variety of sources. They are NOT all going to be accurate. One video of beatings that was spread across the internet yesterday ended up being from 2 years ago. Another rumor was that the BBC had gone green in support of Mousavi. The second rumor spread far and wide despite the fact that standing back and thinking about it for a moment makes one realize its probably not true. The BBC wouldn't support one organization over another like that. That being said, I will try to post things that are verified, but some things will fall through the cracks. If you don't think its real or it seems fake, feel free to point that out but please explain WHY you think its fake.

    For anyone interested in actually doing something, there are things you can do especially if you are tech savvy. Also, please please please do NOT post any twitter names of Iranians who are spreading information.
     
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    Reports of Iranian police wearing green scarves. A very, very good sign for the protestors.
     
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    Although foreign journalists have been banned from Iran, some have stayed. Robert Fisk witnessed Iranian security forces protecting Mousavi protestors from Ahmadinejad supporters.

    Extraordinary scenes: Robert Fisk in Iran - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    The MSM is finally getting in some good writing on Iran. A few days late but here they are, finally.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/17/opinion/17pletka.html?_r=2

     
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    Hundreds of thousands on the streets again. Rumors of Emergency meeting of Assembly of Experts. This is the group that has the power to remove Khamanei.
     
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    Thank you for posting this information. It's hard to keep up on Twitter because of all of the accounts. It's amazing what micro-blogging can do.

    10:41 AM ET -- Disinformation. A note of caution to those of you following Iran news on Twitter. The user @serv_ is aggressively spreading false information, including fabricated "re-tweets" supposedly written by good sources, seemingly trying to discredit them.
    10:38 AM ET -- Mousavi calls for a day of mourning for Iran dead. Reuters reports:

    A number of our countrymen were wounded or martyred," Mousavi said, calling the day of mourning for Thursday.
    "I ask the people to express their solidarity with the families ... by coming together in mosques or taking part in peaceful demonstrations," Mousavi said on his website.
    10:30 AM ET -- The World Cup variable. A few days ago, I printed this mail from an Iranian-American friend:
    Wednesday is the last qualifying game for the Iranian national soccer team for the World Cup. If they lose they don't qualify. This revolt is different from '99 and '04 in that it's not primarily student based. It's worth noting that if Iran loses to the good South Korea team, there is a whole another spark of frustration.​
    Reader Ryan sends over the results from today's match -- a tie. "Iran tied S. Korea. 1-1 in world cup qualifier. Iran had lead starting in second half until the equalizer in the 80th minute by Park Ji Sung of Man. U. Iran needs a N. Korea win vs Saudis to qualify now for the World Cup. A Saudi win or tie elimnates them. That match is today and could be another spark for protesters."
    FT.com / Iran - Iran’s star footballers show support for Moussavi
    10:22 AM ET -- Busting the stereotypes. An article from Time magazine that I should have linked to earlier, by one of the most knowledgeable voices on Iran in the U.S. media, Trita Parsi of the National Iranian American Council:
    The schism in Iran is not reducible to social class, ethnicity, region or generation. A simple glance at the crowds over the past week reveals women in black chadors on both sides of the divide, and women in makeup too. Many kids whose parents were poor have themselves managed to get university degrees as a result of the revolution's largesse -- Ahmadinejad may be a populist, and he may emphasize his humble origins, but he's proud of his Ph.D. (His supporters call him "the Doctor.") And many children of rural poverty who are now educated and living in the cities, though still of limited means, don't necessarily share the outlook of their parents. Absent a proper tabulation of the actual vote on June 12, we'll never know the exact distribution of political support to each candidate across the regions, social classes and age groups. But even in the rallies in support of the candidates before and after the election, it's plain that the country can't be neatly divided along the lines of those categories.​
     
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    Confirmation of foreign fighters in Iran. Haven't heard anything but pure speculation on where they are from though. They are speaking Arabic apparently.

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    Todays protest.

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    Burned out dorms. Not sure this is from before, or is what happened last night. Apparently the Universities in Tehran were attacked last night again though.




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