Iran is just in blocking oil.

One word, KEYSTONE and we can tell Iran to go fuck themselves.
Keystone is not shit. A Canadian project that will employ temp. jobs for 20,000 workers to lay thinner than usual pipe that will operate at higher pressure than usual over a valuable source of water that is invaluable to the agriculture not to mention the many people in the area. Hey why not put it in an area that has had seismic activity of 4.2 in 2002 I believe. Fuck that stupid idea.
 
"Iran is just"

:cuckoo:

Maybe.

But they want the right of a sovereign nation to determine what sort of government they have and how they manage the national resources.

And the United States objects to that. Which is why they want a bomb. They don't want to be rolled, like Iraq.
 
"Iran is just"

:cuckoo:

Maybe.

But they want the right of a sovereign nation to determine what sort of government they have and how they manage the national resources.

And the United States objects to that. Which is why they want a bomb. They don't want to be rolled, like Iraq.
No, no, no...the left has repeatedly assured us that Iran's nuclear program is strictly for peaceful electricity production.

Meanwhile, you keep defending 7th Century fundamentalist theocrats. They really appreciate it.
 
One word, KEYSTONE and we can tell Iran to go fuck themselves.
Keystone is not shit. A Canadian project that will employ temp. jobs for 20,000 workers to lay thinner than usual pipe that will operate at higher pressure than usual over a valuable source of water that is invaluable to the agriculture not to mention the many people in the area. Hey why not put it in an area that has had seismic activity of 4.2 in 2002 I believe. Fuck that stupid idea.

There is already 20,000 miles of pipeline across the aquifer.

You don't have a fucking clue what you are talking about. But being the conservationist that I am, I'm thrilled this new Keystone phase will abide by Nebraska's requirements.
 
Here is a message to Iran from the U.S. Navy,


"Interference with the transit or passage of vessels through the Strait of Hormuz will not be tolerated."

"always ready to counter malevolent actions to ensure freedom of navigation."



"maintains a robust presence in the region to deter or counter destabilizing activities, while safeguarding the region's vital links to the international community."

So in short Iran's talk is just that talk. they know as well as we do who would come out on the short end of such an engagement when you have a surface fleet that consists of manily patrol boats and a few diesel subs.
 
So why isn't Saudi Arabia helpin' us out by raising oil production?
:mad:
Iranian threats churn up fears of spiking oil prices
Wednesday, January 4, 2012 - Miscalculation could set off conflict
The small boats, minisubs and guerrilla tactics of an Iranian militia pose the greatest threat to oil shipping in the Persian Gulf, where even a single incident would send oil prices spiraling upward, analysts say. The naval exercises and missile tests with which Tehran greeted the new year may be saber-rattling, but observers worry that a miscalculation by Iran or the West could ratchet up a standoff into open conflict. Just the heated rhetoric of recent days has driven oil prices higher, as insurance premiums rise and traders seek to hedge against a reduction in global supply that might result from a military confrontation in the Gulf, through which one-sixth of the whole world’s petroleum passes to reach the open seas.

Oil prices jumped 4 percent Tuesday but held steady Wednesday, falling back after a midday spike. The burgeoning standoff began when Iran’s vice president threatened last week to close the strategically vital waterway if additional international sanctions were imposed on Iran. Tehran also conducted a series of naval exercises and missile tests in the Gulf over the New Year’s weekend. U.S. officials in turn have pledged to maintain international freedom of navigation in the Gulf. Behind the rhetoric is a growing wave of international concern about Iran’s nuclear program, and the threat by European and even Gulf countries to join U.S.-led sanctions against Iran’s oil industry and central bank.

The Islamic regime in Tehran is “being subjected to a level of pressure [both domestically and internationally] they’ve never been under before,” said Anthony Cordesman, the Arleigh A. Burke professor of strategy at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Although it is clearly not in Iran’s interest to provoke a U.S. military response, “you can, unfortunately, not rule out the possibility of unintended escalation,” he said. Mr. Cordesman noted that Iran's militia, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy (IRGCN), has decentralized decision-making and a history of independent, aggressive actions against coalition naval forces and international shipping.

Since 2007 and 2008, when Iran reorganized its naval forces, the IRGCN has had the lead role in the Gulf, with Iran’s regular navy relegated largely to a “soft power” role in the waters beyond the Strait of Hormuz, the 34-mile-wide bottleneck at the mouth of the Gulf, U.S. Navy Cmdr. Joshua C. Himes said. “Giving the IRGCN primary responsibility in the Gulf amplifies the natural benefits of a small, fast, unconventional force operating in its own backyard,” Cmdr. Himes wrote in a July assessment of Iranian naval power. He noted that the militia is emphasizing speed, stealth and numbers over tonnage in its acquisitions, buying minisubs and small, fast boats armed with anti-ship missiles. Estimates vary, but the IRGCN might have as many as 3,000 small boats, which could be packed with explosives for suicide attacks or deployed in massive “swarm attacks” against much larger and vastly more expensive U.S. or coalition naval vessels.

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Gas prices rising, to top $4 a gallon this summer
Thursday, 01.05.12 - Gas prices for 2011 set a record, and they're going even higher this year. Brace yourself for more than $4 a gallon during the summer.
The reasons: strife with Iran, rising demand in China, India and other developing countries, plus concerns over limited oil supplies, energy experts say. Rising prices mean more than just higher costs to fill your tank. It also costs more to ship everything from flowers to groceries. That could increase your grocery bill too, said Gregg Laskoski, senior petroleum analyst for GasBuddy.com in Tampa.

Michelle James of Miramar figures her gas bill already runs about $100 a week. "I wish it would go down," James said as she pumped gas at $3.25 a gallon Wednesday in Fort Lauderdale. More money spent on gas also means less for restaurants, shows and other non-essentials, Laskoski said. "Anything that takes money out the pockets of our guests is a negative for our business"," said Paul Emmett, president of the 24-restaurant Duffy's Sports Grill chain based in Palm Beach Gardens. "We certainly will feel the impact of any significant rise in the price of gas."

Increases already have been significant. Florida finished 2011 with prices averaging a $3.25 a gallon, up 20 cents from a year earlier and a year-end record. They rose to average $3.33 a gallon Wednesday. Prices usually rise at least 90 cents by summer, so that means gas topping $4 a gallon in July, analysts say. The last time prices reached those heights in summer 2008, consumers reacted big-time. South Florida boaters, for example, turned to slower, more fuel-efficient engines, instead of gas-guzzling speedsters. And they opted for more local trips, instead of voyages up and down the U.S. East Coast or to the Bahamas, said yacht broker Jason Dunbar of Luke Brown Yachts in Fort Lauderdale.

Should boaters pull back sharply again, marine businesses that have started to re-hire after the depths of the 2009 recession could be forced to lay off some workers in again, Dunbar said: "I hope not." What's stoking gas prices now is tension with Iran. After the United States and European Union imposed sanctions for Iran's nuclear program, Tehran started military exercises in the Strait of Hormuz, raising the specter of possible supply disruptions, said Avery Ash of AAA Fuel Gauge Report. About one-third of the world's seaborne oil passes through the strait.

Read more here: Gas prices rising, to top $4 a gallon this summer - Florida - MiamiHerald.com
 
"Iran is just"

:cuckoo:

Maybe.

But they want the right of a sovereign nation to determine what sort of government they have and how they manage the national resources.

And the United States objects to that. Which is why they want a bomb. They don't want to be rolled, like Iraq.

They can manage their own all they want. But shutting down the Strait would also block other countries who still want to ship their oil, denying them the right to manage their resources. Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates all ship through the Strait. Stopping those countries from shipping would also hurt the countries that receive the oil from those countries. This is why the US objects.
 
Is this "current events"? If so...
The U.S. didn't unilaterally advocate Iranian sanctions. A host of nations are on board.
Iran mentions the Straits of Hormuz, traders flinched, oil pops $1.50/barrel.
Big fucking deal.

Bottom line is that Iran would not be able to keep the Strait of Hormuz shut down for more than a week. They are a bit like N. Korea, all bark and no bite. It's kind of like being afraid that a Dachshund is going to bite you. It's a very scary thought, one that makes most people quake in their shoes.

I love doxies. And they rock. Please don't compare them to North Korea.

They were bred to hunt badgers.
 
BlindBoo, it's not just Iranian oil. If they were to block the Strait of Hormuz (and they won't, it's just saber rattling,) it would block oil shipments from Qatar, Iraq, the UAE, Kuwait, and parts of Saudi Arabia and Oman.
 
China and other countries can support Iran with their oil purchases and can provide gasoline to Iran if necessary.

Life will go on.

We taxpayers cannot afford ongoing war for it is NOT in our best economic interest. It would best id the USA would spend those tax dollars in the USA creating new industry and puttting amercicans back to work..... that is the bottom line.
 
The United States in an attempt to provoke Iran into conflict formed sanctions to destroy their economy. Iran then took the action of stopping oil exports from the region. Now the United States sanctioned any talks with them. Well here come the higher gas prices and another war, way to go America.

Yes, thats the way to make friends and spread the message of peace and democracy. Demand a nation stays in poverty by not allowing them to solve energy problems. Install sanctions and destroy there economy when they do not step to the line and salute. When that nation retaliates by stopping the export of oil then its time to stop talking to them, and to send a fleet of warships and carriers up to there shore.

We are goading them into an attack. The only thing that is missing is support from the population. My guess is that support will come in the form of an american ship being sunk, conveniently. Then we will have another decade long, nation building war. Its good for stock prices, its good for you. Or so the Oligarchy says.

History repeats itself. The pattern is not hard to see. A military economy reliant on exponential growth is dependent on more and more war.
 
Fill the straight up with damaged ships that cannot be moved anytime soon = moronic behavior and increased cost to the USA gasoline users.
 
One word, KEYSTONE and we can tell Iran to go fuck themselves.


That's funny. Just how much Iranian oil will the Keystone pipeline extention replace?
U.S. Total Crude Oil and Products Imports

Ummmm none? Because we import NO oil from Iran. That said we import from other nations through the Straight of Hormuz that Iran has no business interfering with. That said ANY oil through Keystone decreases the threat to us from this region of the world, not to mention lessens the hold Iran has over international markets for two reasons:

1. There is more oil out there to be priced and therefore lowers the pressure to raise prices based on supply. This decreases prices, effectively hurting the Iranian sabre rattling machine. Gotta love them global markets the left selectively forgets about.

2. It creates a safe conduit over which we and our ally, Canada, control oil flow and energy resources making us safer with a defensible energy provision.

And of course, the Keystone pipeline is far shorter, more efficient, less prone to disaster than shipping tankers over half the earth to get here in tankers, lessening ecological disasters too.

But that's why we conservatives understand how Malthusian the left is when it comes to energy. The de-evolution of man will not happen by choice, but by disaster; and that disaster can be caused by bad political choices as is the very nature of liberalism to do.
 
Keystone sucks !

Was this your opinion of the Alberta Clipper pipeline that Obama approved and the State Department licensed and promoted in 2009?

Or are you just a slack-hack?

Alberta Clipper: 450,000 barrels/day of Canadian crude, traversing the border and 3 states.

From the U.S. Department of State website:


The Department found that the addition of crude oil pipeline capacity between Canada and the United States will advance a number of strategic interests of the United States. These included increasing the diversity of available supplies among the United States’ worldwide crude oil sources in a time of considerable political tension in other major oil producing countries and regions; shortening the transportation pathway for crude oil supplies; and increasing crude oil supplies from a major non-Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries producer.

Canada is a stable and reliable ally and trading partner of the United States, with which we have free trade agreements which augment the security of this energy supply.
Approval of the permit sends a positive economic signal, in a difficult economic period, about the future reliability and availability of a portion of United States’ energy imports, and in the immediate term, this shovel-ready project will provide construction jobs for workers in the United States.


U.S. Department of State

No, merrill, you suck. Ballz.
 
Iran has very little ability to refine oil. It needs the oil to flow or it would ruin their economy. No income from oil and no gas for their cars and trucks.

the folks that run Iran have shown less than no interest in the well being, security or best interest of their people. If Iran goes down the chutes they will ride it down like the Cowboy Pilot riding down the bomb in Doctor Strangelove. They really don't care.

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