Internet gun sales...they don't get sent to your house...

I'm watching a Timcast IRL segment from last night, and the resident left of center guy...Ian...says he didn't know that guns purchased online were not mailed to your house (@8:30).

Here's an explaination in case some of you don't understand how an internet retail gun sale works.

First, there are a few rare exceptions to this...like buying a firearm or a replica of a firearm made before 1899 (I believe) and also if the purchaser is also a federal firearm license holder.

But for Joe Blows like you and I...this is how buying a firearm online goes.

You find a gun you like on an online retailer like Bud's Guns.

Why would you need to do this?

Well, if you like strange, novel and totally impractical firearms like I do...your local brick and mortar store isn't likely to carry that kind of thing. Or, if you like super high quality (read super expensive) firearms...most gun stores are not going to have a large selection of those either.

Just like any business, the gun store stocks items that will have the most appeal to the widest cross section of consumers.

But that is the Why...this is the How.

I go online to an internet gun store like budsguns.com and I select something I like...a Bond Arms Protect the 2nd Amendment two shot derringer in 45 Colt...


(Yeah...I own one of these. Yes, I know it is totally impractical. I warned ya.)

Click BUY.

Buds asks for my credit card number and I complete the PURCHASE part of the order...

...now we go on to SHIPPING...

I am presented with a list of Federal Firearm License (FFL) holders in my area.

Some will be green...meaning their FFL license is already on file with Buds. Others are red...meaning if I want to have my firearm shipped to them, I must contact that FFL holder and have them fax a copy of their license to Buds before shipping can be arranged.

Under no circumstances will an online gun store ship a firearm to a non-FFL.

I choose a gun store from the list. That gun store will be responsible for the transfer of the firearm to me...and they can (and most will) charge a transfer fee of $10-$50+ for the transfer. My gun store used to allow free transfers, but now it's $10 for the transfer or the transfer is free with a purchase of at least $20 in merchandise (who can't use more Pmags?).

Buds arranges the shipping to my FFL and in about a week it arrives and the local gun store notifies me. I go to the gun store with my ID and fill out a background check form (ATF 4473) and the FFL does an online instant approval just as if I was buying the firearm directly from them.

I'll either be approved or declined. I've never been declined...and me and my firearm and my new Pmags go happily on our way.

This is actually a much longer process than simply buying in-stock firearms from my local gun store...which I could complete in a half hour start to finish from choosing a firearm through completing a background check and paying to leaving with my new firearm and no Pmags...cuz I really don't need any more Pmags.

So there you go...purchasing a firearm online explained. Cuz knowing is half the battle...


“Under no circumstances will an online gun store ship a firearm to a non-FFL.”

But a gun can be shipped directly to one’s home when purchased online by an FFL 03 license-holder.

Consequently, the claim is partially true.

That is an out right lie
 
I'm watching a Timcast IRL segment from last night, and the resident left of center guy...Ian...says he didn't know that guns purchased online were not mailed to your house (@8:30).

Here's an explaination in case some of you don't understand how an internet retail gun sale works.

First, there are a few rare exceptions to this...like buying a firearm or a replica of a firearm made before 1899 (I believe) and also if the purchaser is also a federal firearm license holder.

But for Joe Blows like you and I...this is how buying a firearm online goes.

You find a gun you like on an online retailer like Bud's Guns.

Why would you need to do this?

Well, if you like strange, novel and totally impractical firearms like I do...your local brick and mortar store isn't likely to carry that kind of thing. Or, if you like super high quality (read super expensive) firearms...most gun stores are not going to have a large selection of those either.

Just like any business, the gun store stocks items that will have the most appeal to the widest cross section of consumers.

But that is the Why...this is the How.

I go online to an internet gun store like budsguns.com and I select something I like...a Bond Arms Protect the 2nd Amendment two shot derringer in 45 Colt...


(Yeah...I own one of these. Yes, I know it is totally impractical. I warned ya.)

Click BUY.

Buds asks for my credit card number and I complete the PURCHASE part of the order...

...now we go on to SHIPPING...

I am presented with a list of Federal Firearm License (FFL) holders in my area.

Some will be green...meaning their FFL license is already on file with Buds. Others are red...meaning if I want to have my firearm shipped to them, I must contact that FFL holder and have them fax a copy of their license to Buds before shipping can be arranged.

Under no circumstances will an online gun store ship a firearm to a non-FFL.

I choose a gun store from the list. That gun store will be responsible for the transfer of the firearm to me...and they can (and most will) charge a transfer fee of $10-$50+ for the transfer. My gun store used to allow free transfers, but now it's $10 for the transfer or the transfer is free with a purchase of at least $20 in merchandise (who can't use more Pmags?).

Buds arranges the shipping to my FFL and in about a week it arrives and the local gun store notifies me. I go to the gun store with my ID and fill out a background check form (ATF 4473) and the FFL does an online instant approval just as if I was buying the firearm directly from them.

I'll either be approved or declined. I've never been declined...and me and my firearm and my new Pmags go happily on our way.

This is actually a much longer process than simply buying in-stock firearms from my local gun store...which I could complete in a half hour start to finish from choosing a firearm through completing a background check and paying to leaving with my new firearm and no Pmags...cuz I really don't need any more Pmags.

So there you go...purchasing a firearm online explained. Cuz knowing is half the battle...


Very informative - thank you.

Wouldn’t it be easier to have your local special order the one you want?

Easier, but not necessarily at the best price.

And it might not be as fast; when I buy online the gun is at my FFL within three or four business days.

You claim to be a gun owner and voted for Biden you are a special kind of stupid boy, or even a bigger liar than I suspect.
 
I'm watching a Timcast IRL segment from last night, and the resident left of center guy...Ian...says he didn't know that guns purchased online were not mailed to your house (@8:30).

Here's an explaination in case some of you don't understand how an internet retail gun sale works.

First, there are a few rare exceptions to this...like buying a firearm or a replica of a firearm made before 1899 (I believe) and also if the purchaser is also a federal firearm license holder.

But for Joe Blows like you and I...this is how buying a firearm online goes.

You find a gun you like on an online retailer like Bud's Guns.

Why would you need to do this?

Well, if you like strange, novel and totally impractical firearms like I do...your local brick and mortar store isn't likely to carry that kind of thing. Or, if you like super high quality (read super expensive) firearms...most gun stores are not going to have a large selection of those either.

Just like any business, the gun store stocks items that will have the most appeal to the widest cross section of consumers.

But that is the Why...this is the How.

I go online to an internet gun store like budsguns.com and I select something I like...a Bond Arms Protect the 2nd Amendment two shot derringer in 45 Colt...


(Yeah...I own one of these. Yes, I know it is totally impractical. I warned ya.)

Click BUY.

Buds asks for my credit card number and I complete the PURCHASE part of the order...

...now we go on to SHIPPING...

I am presented with a list of Federal Firearm License (FFL) holders in my area.

Some will be green...meaning their FFL license is already on file with Buds. Others are red...meaning if I want to have my firearm shipped to them, I must contact that FFL holder and have them fax a copy of their license to Buds before shipping can be arranged.

Under no circumstances will an online gun store ship a firearm to a non-FFL.

I choose a gun store from the list. That gun store will be responsible for the transfer of the firearm to me...and they can (and most will) charge a transfer fee of $10-$50+ for the transfer. My gun store used to allow free transfers, but now it's $10 for the transfer or the transfer is free with a purchase of at least $20 in merchandise (who can't use more Pmags?).

Buds arranges the shipping to my FFL and in about a week it arrives and the local gun store notifies me. I go to the gun store with my ID and fill out a background check form (ATF 4473) and the FFL does an online instant approval just as if I was buying the firearm directly from them.

I'll either be approved or declined. I've never been declined...and me and my firearm and my new Pmags go happily on our way.

This is actually a much longer process than simply buying in-stock firearms from my local gun store...which I could complete in a half hour start to finish from choosing a firearm through completing a background check and paying to leaving with my new firearm and no Pmags...cuz I really don't need any more Pmags.

So there you go...purchasing a firearm online explained. Cuz knowing is half the battle...


“Under no circumstances will an online gun store ship a firearm to a non-FFL.”

But a gun can be shipped directly to one’s home when purchased online by an FFL 03 license-holder.

Consequently, the claim is partially true.

Negative ghostrider, an FFL 03 is NOT a non-FFL.

I'm pretty sure that's why they put FFL right in the name FFL 03.

I mean this is this is terrible reading comprehension skills even by the extremely low standards I hold your postings to.

Clayton: Wait, wait...you are wrong about a gun store not mailing a firearm to a NON-FFL holder because...wait for it...they'll mail a firearm to an FFL holder...​

Besides...I covered that to which you are referring in the first sentence...

First, there are a few rare exceptions to this...like buying a firearm or a replica of a firearm made before 1899 (I believe) and also if the purchaser is also a federal firearm license holder.

Maybe that's harsh...but it is very annoying to be wrongly "corrected".

I would have cut you more slack if you had called it a C&R license or a Curios and Relics license...but you correctly identified the license as a FFL.
 
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I'm watching a Timcast IRL segment from last night, and the resident left of center guy...Ian...says he didn't know that guns purchased online were not mailed to your house (@8:30).

Here's an explaination in case some of you don't understand how an internet retail gun sale works.

First, there are a few rare exceptions to this...like buying a firearm or a replica of a firearm made before 1899 (I believe) and also if the purchaser is also a federal firearm license holder.

But for Joe Blows like you and I...this is how buying a firearm online goes.

You find a gun you like on an online retailer like Bud's Guns.

Why would you need to do this?

Well, if you like strange, novel and totally impractical firearms like I do...your local brick and mortar store isn't likely to carry that kind of thing. Or, if you like super high quality (read super expensive) firearms...most gun stores are not going to have a large selection of those either.

Just like any business, the gun store stocks items that will have the most appeal to the widest cross section of consumers.

But that is the Why...this is the How.

I go online to an internet gun store like budsguns.com and I select something I like...a Bond Arms Protect the 2nd Amendment two shot derringer in 45 Colt...


(Yeah...I own one of these. Yes, I know it is totally impractical. I warned ya.)

Click BUY.

Buds asks for my credit card number and I complete the PURCHASE part of the order...

...now we go on to SHIPPING...

I am presented with a list of Federal Firearm License (FFL) holders in my area.

Some will be green...meaning their FFL license is already on file with Buds. Others are red...meaning if I want to have my firearm shipped to them, I must contact that FFL holder and have them fax a copy of their license to Buds before shipping can be arranged.

Under no circumstances will an online gun store ship a firearm to a non-FFL.

I choose a gun store from the list. That gun store will be responsible for the transfer of the firearm to me...and they can (and most will) charge a transfer fee of $10-$50+ for the transfer. My gun store used to allow free transfers, but now it's $10 for the transfer or the transfer is free with a purchase of at least $20 in merchandise (who can't use more Pmags?).

Buds arranges the shipping to my FFL and in about a week it arrives and the local gun store notifies me. I go to the gun store with my ID and fill out a background check form (ATF 4473) and the FFL does an online instant approval just as if I was buying the firearm directly from them.

I'll either be approved or declined. I've never been declined...and me and my firearm and my new Pmags go happily on our way.

This is actually a much longer process than simply buying in-stock firearms from my local gun store...which I could complete in a half hour start to finish from choosing a firearm through completing a background check and paying to leaving with my new firearm and no Pmags...cuz I really don't need any more Pmags.

So there you go...purchasing a firearm online explained. Cuz knowing is half the battle...


“Under no circumstances will an online gun store ship a firearm to a non-FFL.”

But a gun can be shipped directly to one’s home when purchased online by an FFL 03 license-holder.

Consequently, the claim is partially true.








No, it can't you moron. An 03 FFL is for a COLLECTOR of Curios and Relics. Thus, if the firearm is classified as a C&R, that weapon can be shipped to THAT C&R holder. And that doesn't apply to most firearms being shipped to California and a few other States.

You are a class A idiot.
 
I'm watching a Timcast IRL segment from last night, and the resident left of center guy...Ian...says he didn't know that guns purchased online were not mailed to your house (@8:30).

Here's an explaination in case some of you don't understand how an internet retail gun sale works.

First, there are a few rare exceptions to this...like buying a firearm or a replica of a firearm made before 1899 (I believe) and also if the purchaser is also a federal firearm license holder.

But for Joe Blows like you and I...this is how buying a firearm online goes.

You find a gun you like on an online retailer like Bud's Guns.

Why would you need to do this?

Well, if you like strange, novel and totally impractical firearms like I do...your local brick and mortar store isn't likely to carry that kind of thing. Or, if you like super high quality (read super expensive) firearms...most gun stores are not going to have a large selection of those either.

Just like any business, the gun store stocks items that will have the most appeal to the widest cross section of consumers.

But that is the Why...this is the How.

I go online to an internet gun store like budsguns.com and I select something I like...a Bond Arms Protect the 2nd Amendment two shot derringer in 45 Colt...


(Yeah...I own one of these. Yes, I know it is totally impractical. I warned ya.)

Click BUY.

Buds asks for my credit card number and I complete the PURCHASE part of the order...

...now we go on to SHIPPING...

I am presented with a list of Federal Firearm License (FFL) holders in my area.

Some will be green...meaning their FFL license is already on file with Buds. Others are red...meaning if I want to have my firearm shipped to them, I must contact that FFL holder and have them fax a copy of their license to Buds before shipping can be arranged.

Under no circumstances will an online gun store ship a firearm to a non-FFL.

I choose a gun store from the list. That gun store will be responsible for the transfer of the firearm to me...and they can (and most will) charge a transfer fee of $10-$50+ for the transfer. My gun store used to allow free transfers, but now it's $10 for the transfer or the transfer is free with a purchase of at least $20 in merchandise (who can't use more Pmags?).

Buds arranges the shipping to my FFL and in about a week it arrives and the local gun store notifies me. I go to the gun store with my ID and fill out a background check form (ATF 4473) and the FFL does an online instant approval just as if I was buying the firearm directly from them.

I'll either be approved or declined. I've never been declined...and me and my firearm and my new Pmags go happily on our way.

This is actually a much longer process than simply buying in-stock firearms from my local gun store...which I could complete in a half hour start to finish from choosing a firearm through completing a background check and paying to leaving with my new firearm and no Pmags...cuz I really don't need any more Pmags.

So there you go...purchasing a firearm online explained. Cuz knowing is half the battle...


Very informative - thank you.

Wouldn’t it be easier to have your local special order the one you want?


My guess is that not all companies sell to all dealers.

A different animal altogether but, years ago, I used to work in a guitar store. We were a Gibson dealer, but not a PRS dealer. We could not, therefore, special order a PRS guitar for a customer. He'd have to do that through a PRS dealer.

So, if there's not a Colt dealer in the OP's town, his local S&W dealer may not be able to order the gun...
 

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