I find it interesting that GunnyL has to have the last word. He wants all complaints in PM so we do not have any consensus or groupings of people who agree (power in numbers). http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/55323-i-am-sorry-but-i-mostly-agree.html So I am not allowed to retort? You have to say your piece and then lock the thread? Why not a public discourse when a member has a grievance?