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    First of all, I am not a birther. I have never even entered a thread about the birth certificate issue.

    However, I got a call from my son last night from school. In Poli Sci, he is wrtiting a paper on the arguments and conspiracies displayed by both parties during the last 3 presidential elections.

    He collected information on the Kerry swift boat thing, the FLorida chads, Keatring 5, Bill Ayers, Reverend Wright, Joe Biden being accused of being a racist by the Obama camp...and yes, the birth certificate issue.

    What he tried to do was find the birth certificate....and he couldn't. He tried to find something that proved it was a conspiracy theory and he couldnt.

    SO I explained to him that I assume he never was forced to produce it and I also assume NO other president had to produce it once elected....and I told him he is best to simply say that although he never produced, no other Presdient was ever required to do so...sort of as a footnote to his paper.

    But he asked me a good qiuestion...and I need to be frank...I DO NOT WANT TO BE LABELED AS A BIRTHER.......but.....

    Has any other president been required to prove he was a citizen in the past?
     
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    Obama presented a "Certificate of Live Birth" which is what the State of Hawaii issued at the time he was born. Since it doesn't say "Birth Cerificate", birthers use it as proof he was not born in the US. The State of Hawaii, including their Republican Governor have validated Obama's birth in Hawaii

    Now, all we have to do is wait for the birthers to chime in how none of this counts and this thread can assume its proper place in the Eots zone
     
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    None that I can recall. But then he is our first black president and he is a democrat.

    Wasn't there some retaliatory fuss over McCain since he was actually born in Panama or somesuch?
     
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    But did he furnish a birth certificate?
    Did any other President have to produce one?
     
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    I think what you are getting at is.
    Is providing a birth certificate routine for presidential candidates or was Obama singled out as an exception?
     
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    In all fairness, as my son collected for his report.....Those that ORIGINALLY asked for the birth certificate, (not the loons) asked for only one reason....he was a man that had his natural father who was NOT a citizen of the US....and I believe this was deemed as having never been the case with any other President in recent history......

    Saying it was a racial issue is unfair for the ORIGINAL questioners.

    Likewise, a man born to US military on foreign soil where the parent was stationed, I believe, is a facotr in the McCain thing.

    But did Obama actually produce it?
     
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    Yes...EXACTLY.
    Is it unusual?
    Is the fact that one parent was NOT a US citizen a good cause to ask?
     
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    George washingtons father was not a citizen of the United States.
    He was a subject of the crown.
     
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    There was no US when he was born.

    My kid's question is a valid one......was any other president born to a non US citizen? And if yes, did he produce a BC?
     
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    I think the issue here concerns one parent not being a US citizen.
    And correct there was no US when GW was born. An Interesting technicality though.
     

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