In the middle of tragedy, a moment of joy and hope

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  1. Baruch Menachem
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    From the IDF you tube web site, woman gives birth in IDF hospital tent.

    Mama and baby are doing well, baby is cute.

    [ame="http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jHcwlKqYLo&feature=player_embedded"]Ha Tikava[/ame]

    It is kind of fun watching the nurses go goo goo over the kid.
     
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    Ive seen some images of joy coming from Hell, There are moments but it is a real disaster
     
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    Does the CDC have people down there? That is the next big disaster these people face. And it is the perfect breeding ground for a mutation of virus to make an appearance.
     
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    I'm glad they are safe and well. But more babies is hardly what Haiti needs.

    "Two centuries ago, the political economist Robert Malthus postulated that a society in which the population grew too fast could reach a point where people simply could not be fed, leading to a total collapse. Over the past five years, Haiti has not only met but exceeded the conditions for a Malthusian catastrophe. The only things keeping the country from absolute disaster are imported food and charity. With a global economic crisis afoot, the question is how long that can be sustained.
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    Slavery did not end with the revolution. A grim fate awaits many of the children in Robuste. When destitute Haitian families cannot feed their children, they send them to the towns. There are 300,000 such children in Haiti, around 10% of the entire child population. They are known as restaveks — a Creole word from the French rester avec, to stay with. Host families provide restaveks with food, clothing, shelter and in some cases education, in return for having the child work as a servant. Often these children are beaten, sexually abused, starved, denied medical treatment."

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne...article6281614.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1
     
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    In the economics of poverty, children are a resource. On the American frontier, a widow was worth courting based on the number of kids she had. You could put them to work.

    That is part of the reasons third world places produce so many kids. They aren't mouths, they are resources. And given the cultural norms of most places, they are your social security as well.

    In asia, the sons are expected to stay in the family home until the death of the matriarch. So it is common to have four generations in the same house, even among the wealthy. And the sons are expected to support the parents, and in many places, it is a felony not to do so. That is why asian parents are so son crazy (And since the same dynamic used to be common in europe as well, explains it in European culture too.) Daughters go to the house of their husband. And pretty much vanish there. So daughters are an expense until they marry.
    Asian matchmakers make a great deal of the financial stability of the grooms parents. Because the bride will be supporting them forever.

    Anyway, from a third world perspective, few kids means little help and few resources when you grow old. And it has to be sons as much as possible, because they will support you later.
    From an individual perspective having lots of kids is security for the family. From the resource perspective, it can be a disaster.

    That is one of the reasons European nations have lower birth rates. European nations have a lot of success raising up the next generation, and even with just two kids, or not kids, because the government pays the maintenance of the elderly, there is not the frantic desire to make more kids to spread the maintenance load for grandma. Actually, from a European perspective, since everyone else is paying for grandma, it is actually a better deal to have fewer kids, so everyone else's kids are paying for grandma, but not yours.

    So for the Haitian family, 20 kids is a way to win the social security lottery. Here in the US, it is a way for guaranteed loss.
     
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    Abortion is illegal in Haiti and birth control is not widely available or affordable, these are other reasons for the overpopulation of Haiti.
     
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    "...But more babies is hardly what Haiti needs."

    I guess you should have sent this family a letter to forewarn them about the earthquake....... told them to abstain until the rebuild was complete!

    Yours is a really superfluous and petty comment.
     
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    Actually yours is.
     
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    Here are even more!
     
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    Children are and always should be a sign of hope, and that in spite of everything, life does go on!
     

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