In the 1950's Sen McCarthy could prosecute communists....

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Thomas Jefferson and George Washington.....the untouchable, founding fathers...such enlightened men weren't they?

obviously not, it's mere coincidence that they gave us freedom and we became the greatest country in human history by far and mere coincidence that China just copied us and instantly eliminated 40% of all the poverty on the planet.

It was not mere coincidence it was the result of events that had been taking place since the 1500's if not earlier. Your posts scream "lack of history."

Well it is certainly true that the debate between freedom and government started between Plato and Aristotle and was resolved most clearly when Jefferson gave America freedom and then America became the greatest country in human history by far

 

[Dr Grump]

Well it is certainly true that the debate between freedom and government started between Plato and Aristotle and was resolved most clearly when Jefferson gave America freedom and then America became the greatest country in human history by far

Yeah, I loved how Jefferson gave America freedom. All those slaves were freed and got to vote. All those women got the vote. All those non-land owning men got the vote...

...oh, wait....

No, the US did not become the greatest. Maybe in terms of wealth. But that is not a measure of greatness.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Yeah, I loved how Jefferson gave America freedom. All those slaves were freed and got to vote. All those women got the vote. All those non-land owning men got the vote...

Slaves and women were freed by Aristotle and Jefferson and more recently so were 1.4 billion people in China. This is why we think of them as the greatest men to have ever lived. Do you understand?

 

[initforme]

Any founding father that owned slaves should have the great label removed for he wasa coward and Ill repute.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

McCarthy was both a patriot AND a tyrant.

He was FUCKING right in identifying the cocksucking commies. He was wrong in his methods of inquery. He should have been more covert, and politically destroyed any commies.

Ultimately, the ends justifird the means. Right, commies?

 

[initforme]

McCarthy was a drunkard....I grew up during his fabricated crap.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Oh so you think McCarthy was a hero........... Have a nice day.........

He was, commie.

We need a war with commies so we can have final victory over this dumbassary.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

McCarthy was a drunkard....I grew up during his fabricated crap.

You’re a commie. Of course you hated him. He exposed the subvert American Bolshevik plot.

Poor commies.

 

[Ringel05]

Oh so you think McCarthy was a hero........... Have a nice day.........

He was, commie.

We need a war with commies so we can have final victory over this dumbassary.

 

[Dr Grump]

Yeah, I loved how Jefferson gave America freedom. All those slaves were freed and got to vote. All those women got the vote. All those non-land owning men got the vote...

Slaves and women were freed by Aristotle and Jefferson and more recently so were 1.4 billion people in China. This is why we think of them as the greatest men to have ever lived. Do you understand?

But Jefferson owned slaves. No, 1.4 billion are still under the yoke of Xi Jinping. And as somebody said to be recently, "Isn't it great how China has managed to get 200 million more people to join its middle class. Now all they have to do is get the other 900 million peasants up to speed."

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

But Jefferson owned slaves.

yes, he was born owning slaves but as the world's greatest revolutionary set in motion the process by which most of the people on earth were freed. This was the "shot heard around the world" This is why we think of him and possible Aristotle as the two greatest human beings in history.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

. No, 1.4 billion are still under the yoke of Xi Jinping."

sure but now they are getting rich rather than slowly starving to death. Jefferson may have saved another 100 million from slowly starving to death. Who else can claim that?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

, "Isn't it great how China has managed to get 200 million more people to join its middle class. Now all they have to do is get the other 900 million peasants up to speed."

capitalism naturally spreads the wealth:
China's middle class is exploding - Business Insider
www.businessinsider.com/chinas-middle-class-is-exploding-2016-8
ug 27, 2016 - China's middle class is on fire. According to a study by consulting firm McKinsey & Company, 76 percent of China's urban population will be considered middle class by 2022. That's defined as urban households that earn US$9,000 – US$34,000 a year.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Oh so you think McCarthy was a hero........... Have a nice day.........

have a nice day? are you so afraid to debate? Turns out McCarthy was right. Few doubt
today that our liberals spied for Stalin and give him the bomb while he was slowly starving 60 million to death. Liberals took the 5th. Do you know why?

 

[Dr Grump]

yes, he was born owning slaves but as the world's greatest revolutionary set in motion the process by which most of the people on earth were freed. This was the "shot heard around the world" This is why we think of him and possible Aristotle as the two greatest human beings in history.

Who's we?

 

[Dr Grump]

sure but now they are getting rich rather than slowly starving to death. Jefferson may have saved another 100 million from slowly starving to death. Who else can claim that?

well, not necessarily (getting rich that is).

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

sure but now they are getting rich rather than slowly starving to death. Jefferson may have saved another 100 million from slowly starving to death. Who else can claim that?

well, not necessarily (getting rich that is).

Yes as compared to slowly starving to death under liberal communism they are getting rich everyone of them .

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Any founding father that owned slaves should have the great label removed for he wasa coward and Ill repute.

Of course that is very stupid but perfectly liberal.. 10,000 generations of human beings were born as slave owners and did nothing about it. Our founders were born as slave owners and freed the slaves and freed most of the human beings on earth so they are far and away the greatest people to have a ever graced our earth. Do you dare think what you would’ve done had you been born a slave owner? I think we all know the answer.

 

[Dr Grump]

Yes as compared to slowly starving to death under liberal communism they are getting rich everyone of them .

Are they?