In Support of Obama's Health Care Law

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    I am definitely a supporter of Obama's Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) - h t t p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Care_Act

    However, health care does not need to be reshaped and it amazes me to see how complicated the bill is. All they could have done was this: Effective immediately: Expand Medicaid eligibility; all individuals with income up to 133% of the poverty line qualify for coverage, including adults without dependent children. Just one statement.

    And yes, this is in alignment with Franklin Roosevelt's Second Bill of Rights:

    The Second Bill of Rights was a list of rights proposed by Franklin D. Roosevelt, the then President of the United States, during his State of the Union Address on January 11, 1944. In his address Roosevelt suggested that the nation had come to recognize, and should now implement, a second "bill of rights". Roosevelt's argument was that the "political rights" guaranteed by the constitution and the Bill of Rights had "proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness." Roosevelt's remedy was to declare an "economic bill of rights" which would guarantee:

    Employment, with a living wage,
    Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies,
    Housing,
    Medical care,
    Education, and,
    Social security

    h t t p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights
     
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    Get a job, ya stinkin' hippie!
     
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    Try directing that statement to these 5,000 phds that are janitors:

    h t t p://gizmodo.com/5671062/there-are-5000-janitors-in-the-us-with-phds
     
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    Put down the bong dude. You are responsible for everything that happens to you in life. Everything. Society doesn't owe you a fucking thing. You are never going to see a "2nd bill of rights" or anything like it. You're a glue sniffing hippie.
     
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    Yet the neuroscientist Sam Harris doesn't think so. Youtube search "Sam Harris Freewill."

    Never? What's wrong with people being entitled to a job? Don't you want people to work?
     
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    Get some brains, ya stinkin' NeoCon!
     
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    I see. Well, here is hoping that you are diagnosed with terminal cancer tomorrow. Then you can check out what you did that caused that.

    Seriously, that is a insane of a statement as those made by the 'we are all victims of fate' crowd.

    Many things in life happen without any input from the person they happen too. If one survives them, you can determine how you react, but there is no way that we are responsible for everything that happens to us.
     
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    You're just an old burned out loser who made poor choices and now wants a free handout from everyone else. People like you are the problem in this country. You pretend to be compassionate and caring - yet here you hoping that I get terminal cancer. You're an uneducated hypocrite.

    Here's the deal Old Rocks in the head - You are responsible for everything in your life- even the bad shit that you think you have no control over. If you get cancer you are responsible. There is a difference between blame and responsibility, if you are too thickheaded to grasp it, that's your own problem. The sooner the simpletons like you realize that government is not your mommy, the better their lives will be.
     
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    From chapter two of Peter Ferrara's "America's Ticking Bankruptc Bomb,"

    When the President rushed through Obamacare, he promised it would reduce the deficit, citing CBO’s scoring! Of course, he never revealed, as was done in the 2010 Annual Report of the Medicare Board of Trustees and the 2010 Financial Report of the United States Government, that Obamacare policies will cut payments for doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers by $15 trillion.


    So...you think any of the above will continue to stick around?
     
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    Listen up moron! You have no RIGHT to a job, a house, health care, social security, or anything else that you're begging society for. You have the "right" of equality of opportunity. That's it. The rest is up to you. The sooner you understand that concept the better off you'll be.

    If you want a place to live, you'd better find a way to pay for it. Same goes for food, clothing, health care, and everything else in this world. There is no free lunch and there never will be. Sure, you can find a way to eek out a miserable existence living on friends sofa's and counting on the kindness of strangers. That's a choice. Maybe you enjoy being a loser, a parasite, a filthy pig? Perhaps living under a park bench sounds appealing to you? If that is what you seek, you will surely find it!

    Just remember, society doesn't owe you squat pal. You are responsible for your own life. There will never be a 2nd bill of rights.
     

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