I'm so sick and tired of Vietnam

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    Why do we still have to hear about this crap? I've decided that its not about Conservatives or Liberals or Republicans or Democrats, its about Baby Boomers. That generation is such a huge pain in the ass. Its infuriating. From the protestors to the Vets, they are all a bunch of obsessed freaks about that War. It's all about the sixties.

    The protestors and activists bitched and moaned and lost the War. They blasted their brains with mind altering drugs, preached about peace and love and screwed like rabbits giving us pleasant new diseases for future generations to enjoy.

    The vets. They went over there and they killed millions needlessly. Face it, it was immoral as hell. Then they bitched and moaned when they came home and got spit on. Yes they were sent there by bad leaders for stupid reasons and it was all a big cluster fuck.

    I wasn't around then, I'm sick of hearing about their lost war. That generation is a blight on this country. They did some good, a little bit. They gave us Civil Rights, then they proceeded to imprison every black they could find. They blabbed for a decade about peace and love, then they decided to become the most greedy selfish generation in history. They racked up an insane amount of debt and continue to do so and now they want to hand us the bill. Coming on the heels of the greatest generation they are a big flop.
     
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    and this has WHAT to do with the political race? Sounds more like Gen. USA chat to me.
     
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    Yet, Americans refuse to use the flat-handed open salute as a defeated military force. No question, WE were defeated in Viet Nam. It sucked as a "war" and it sucks as a stain on our integrity as preservers of PEACE. Placing blame doesn't solve anything some thirty odd years later. Understanding the political and corporate propensities of the time tells a very huge and important story. I suggest you all for some research and mind-grappling.

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    I have to agree with your opinion of Baby Boomers (and I'm one myself). We are without a doubt, one of the most self absorbed, self centered generations that ever walked the face of the Earth. I believe that the majority of our problems are caused by the fact that many of us just haven't really grown up.

    As for us screwing like rabbits giving us pleasant new diseases for future generations to enjoy. If you are referring to AIDS, that disease (at least in Europe and America) was introduced by the gay community, not the hippies. The first cases of AIDS didn't show up in this country until 1981 and it was predominantly among gay men. Even now gays are the ones most affected. That is why they have such a preoccupation with the disease.

    As far as Vietnam, our fighting men and women did the best they could. The problem with that war was that the politicians meddled in it. If they had stayed out of it and let the generals do the fighting, we would have been better off. Should we have gone in? Probably. Did it help to contain Communism? In the long run, no.

    Speaking of killing millions of people needlessly. Even if we hadn't set a foot in Vietnam, the Communists would have done our killing for us and moreso. We didn't fight (much of) a war in Cambodia, yet the Khmer Rouge killed millions of people there especially after the Vietnam War (I believe the number is around 2 million people killed). When it comes to needless deaths, I wouldn't be so quick to pin the blame on the US and I certainly wouldn't be so quick to place hope in the humanity of Communist regimes.
     
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    instead of enumerating the positives of the generation that I belong to, I will look foreward to seeing your plans to enlighten the next generation! (I hope it isn't bitching and whining--my generation supposedly invented that)
     
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    I hope no one takes this the wrong way, but having seen a majority of Busch's posts i dont think he is in any position to enlighten my generation.

    With that said, i think we will enlighten ourselves. We've seen alot of the mistakes our parents have made. We dont have to make them.
     
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    Well someone has to point some things out....
    Believe me busch2008, no one is more tired of Vietnam than the folks that lived through that part of history.

    Now as far as your statement goes...
    Here is short list of what that generation has done. There is much more.

    The landing of men on the moon several times.

    The NASA spacecraft Viking Two makes a successful Mars landing to begin its mission of sending color photos back to Earth.

    The American space probe Ranger 7 transmitted pictures of the moon's surface.

    Dr. James Campbell performed the 1st human nerve transplant.

    The United States launched the Telstar II communications satellite. It made the first public transatlantic broadcast.

    Artificial Intelligence created

    The memory chip

    the first microprocessor

    The PC

    Two Duke graduate students, linked computers to share information and created the Usenet electronic bulletin board.

    The 1st transcontinental wireless phone call was made from SF to NYC.

    AT&T Bell Labs scientists invented the laser.

    Texas Instruments developed the integrated circuit, or silicon chip.

    The first two-way telephone conversation by satellite took place with the help of Echo 1, a balloon satellite.

    Robert Weitbrecht, a deaf person, invented the teletypewriter (TTY). It enabled deaf people to call each other and type conversations.

    The new $114 million Stanford Linear Accelerator Center at Stanford Univ., Ca., began smashing atoms.


    Jan 12, The Boeing 747 made its maiden voyage.

    The 1st flight of Space Shuttle atop a Boeing 747 took place.


    1st scientific hand-held calculator, the HP-35, was introduced

    the 1st portable insulin pump.

    The Human Genome Project began and planned to sequence all human DNA by 2005. The database did not just store sequences, but linked them with citations to enable new discoveries.

    Raymond Damadian produced the 1st image of a human chest using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). In 1970 he found that cancer cells could be distinguished from healthy tissues using nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR).

    William Schroeder became the 2nd person to receive a Jarvik-7 artificial heart.

    Researchers for muscular dystrophy identified the gene that caused Duchene muscular dystrophy, the most common and fatal childhood form of the disease.

    In a medical first, doctors in Baltimore transplanted the heart and lungs of an auto accident victim to Clinton House who gave up his own heart to a 2nd recipient. House, the nation's first living heart donor, died 14 months later.

    Dr. Samuel L. Katz of Duke Univ. co-developed the Edmonston B vaccine against measles.

    Yep this generation is a blight on this country...I guess..But we're working on it.:finger:
     
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    I second Mr.P and want to add something, the baby boom begins roughly 1943, give or take. The beginning of US in Vietnam is 1958-1961, give or take. Do you really think this was the generation that 'began' the war? Another word on THAT war, it was done to help an 'ally', France and it fit with the premise of 'domino theory.' It was executived to death, but would that have happened without the Cuban fiasco? I doubt it. Fault can be laid at the feet of JFK and LBJ.
     
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    P, you wasted your keystrokes. 2008's broad brush accusatory ramblings do not merit a response. They are the product of limited intelligence, petty jealousy and democrat bullshit.

    2008 was not attempting to advance a rational concept, he was simply striking out with a few gratuitous insults.

    You could have covered everything you needed to say to the dimwit with the last part of your response - :finger: because that is all the effort that his statement merited. Perhaps one day, if he ever grows up, he may stop feeling sorry for himself long enough to realize that not everything is someone else's fault. Personally, I'm not very optimistic about that.

    I'll add my own sentiment to your's. Here ya go 2008 :finger:
     
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    It remains to be seen how your generation will turn out, doesn't it!

    I can only speculate as to what you PERSONALLY are doing to improve things other than to whine about previous generations.
     

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