Illinois AG candidate/gun control advocate robbed at gunpoint in Chicago during campaign photoshoot

[LeftofLeft]

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

It’s quite simple.... land of tight gun control vs. land of gun rights. Who has more gun crimes? Most crimes involving a gun are done so with illegally obtained firearms. Further, they have greater “success” in “gun free zones”.

The gun control freaks have only figured out how to limit guns among law-abiding citizens.

Stripping law abiding citizens of their guns IS the goal of gun control freaks. They know criminals will ignore all their gun control laws.

Gun control strips guns from nuts and criminals! Law abiding folks get their guns .

How does gun control achieve getting guns from criminals? Provide empirical data and not what lies between your ears.

 

[Deno]

oh the irony!

Illinois AG candidate robbed at gunpoint in Chicago during campaign photoshoot

Karma...

Wonder why they wouldn't release their description?

 

[2aguy]

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

New York.....they have extreme gun control and still over 300 murders......

Apples to apples....

Baltimore and New York......both left wing cities controlled by democrats for decades, with extreme gun control.....

Also notice.....Houston...with gun stores on every corner, with the normal people able to carry guns easily......has a lower gun murder number than Baltimore and Detroit....democrat strong holds....

Murder rate 2017
Baltimore......343
Population of cities 2016:

Chicago........2.7 million
L.A................3.9 million
N.Y................8.5 million
Houston........2.3 million
Baltimore......620,961
Detroit...........672,795

Murder rate 2016:

Chicago........765
L.A.......... .....293
N.Y................335
Houston .......301
Baltimore......318
Detroit...........303

Then you have this....


Gun control doesn’t reduce crime, violence, say studies

The National Academy of Sciences issued a 328-page report based on 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications, a survey of 80 different gun-control laws and some of its own independent study.

In short, the panel could find no link between restrictions on gun ownership and lower rates of crime, firearms violence or even accidents with guns.

 

[2aguy]

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

It’s quite simple.... land of tight gun control vs. land of gun rights. Who has more gun crimes? Most crimes involving a gun are done so with illegally obtained firearms. Further, they have greater “success” in “gun free zones”.

The gun control freaks have only figured out how to limit guns among law-abiding citizens.

Gun nut states have more gun crimes . That’s a fact . And that’s not even counting suicides .

That is not a fact......you make up crap and think we will just accept it...

 

[2aguy]

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

And more on your dumb comparisons.......

Would Cracking Down on Guns in the U.S. Really Reduce Violence? , by Robert VerBruggen, National Review

There is actually no simple correlation between states’ homicide rates and their gun-ownership rates or gun laws.
This has been shown numerous times, by different people, using different data sets.

A year ago, I took state gun-ownership levels reported by the Washington Post (based on a Centers for Disease Control survey) and compared them with murder rates from the FBI: no correlation.

The legal scholar Eugene Volokh has compared states’ gun laws (as rated by the anti-gun Brady Campaign) with their murder rates: no correlation.

David Freddoso of the Washington Examiner, a former National Review reporter, failed to find a correlation even between gun ownership in a state and gun murders specifically, an approach that sets aside the issue of whether gun availability has an effect on non-gun crime. (Guns can deter unarmed criminals, for instance, and criminals without guns may simply switch to other weapons.)


, I recently redid my analysis with a few tweaks. Instead of relying on a single year of survey data, I averaged three years. (The CDC survey, the best available for state-level numbers, included data on gun ownership only in 2001, 2002, and 2004. Those were the years I looked at.)

And instead of comparing CDC data with murder rates from a different agency, I relied on the CDC’s own estimates of death by assault in those years. Again: no correlation.

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Left-leaning media outlets, from Mother Jones to National Journal, get around this absence of correlation by reporting numbers on “gun deaths” rather than gun homicides or homicides in general.
More than 60 percent of gun deaths nationally are suicides, and places with higher gun ownership typically see a higher percentage of their suicides committed with a gun.
Focusing on the number of gun deaths practically guarantees a finding that guns and violence go together. While it may be true that public policy should also seek to reduce suicide, it is homicide — often a dramatic mass killing — that usually prompts the media and politicians to call for gun control, and it is homicide that most influences people as they consider supporting measures to take away their fellow citizens’ access to guns.


There are large gaps among the states when it comes to homicide, with rates ranging all the way from about two to twelve per 100,000 in 2013, the most recent year of data available from the CDC.

These disparities show that it’s not just guns that cause the United States to have, on average, a higher rate of homicide than other developed countries do. Not only is there no correlation between gun ownership and overall homicide within a state, but there is a strong correlation between gun homicide and non-gun homicide — suggesting that they spring from similar causes, and that some states are simply more violent than others. A closer look at demographic and geographic patterns provides some clues as to why this is.

 

[2aguy]

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

Dip shit....Massachusetts?

http://dailyfreepress.com/2017/09/15/gun-violence-in-boston-is-up-25-percent-from-last-year/

Indicative of a larger problem in the state of Massachusetts and the nation at-large, shootings in Boston have been on the rise.

Data published by the Boston Police Department indicates that by Aug. 6 of this year, there has been 151 recorded shootings — both fatal and nonfatal — in Boston, compared to 121 shootings in that same time frame the year before.

Number of Boston teen homicides doubles in 2017 - The Boston Globe

 

[2aguy]

^^^ points and laughs

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

Let's see......

Arizona...on the border with Mexico and the drug cartels...

Massachusetts so far away from the border they hardly know that Arizona exists.....

Yeah...that is apples to apples....

 

[Timmy]

You apparently don’t understand what irony means .

If he was some gun nut “more guns means more safety” guy , and he was held up, that would be irony .

More gun countrol correlates to more gun crimes as we see in Chicago; already land of heavy gun control and crime.

That’s a lie. States wh tougher gun laws have less gun crime than their gun nut state counterparts.

Compare Illinois vs. Texas.

Chicago Chicago Chicago! Chi town is an outlier because of its sever gang problem .

You pro gun misinformists won’t talk about liberal cities like Boston , Seattle, New York’s , gunncrime stars.

Instead you throw in empty rural states to compare wh Big states wh large metros .

Apples to apples ! Texas vs New York . Arizona v Massachusetts .

Dip shit....Massachusetts?

http://dailyfreepress.com/2017/09/15/gun-violence-in-boston-is-up-25-percent-from-last-year/

Indicative of a larger problem in the state of Massachusetts and the nation at-large, shootings in Boston have been on the rise.

Data published by the Boston Police Department indicates that by Aug. 6 of this year, there has been 151 recorded shootings — both fatal and nonfatal — in Boston, compared to 121 shootings in that same time frame the year before.

Number of Boston teen homicides doubles in 2017 - The Boston Globe

And ? Shouldnt you be comparing that with gun crimes in similar sized gun nut cities ? What’s Pheonixs # of shootings ?

 

[Godboy]

Where’s the irony ?

Criminals don't follow gun control laws. Get it now, dummy?

 

[Timmy]

Where’s the irony ?

Criminals don't follow gun control laws. Get it now, dummy?

That’s not ironic .

And we have no idea where that gun came from and how any lack of gun control is how the criminal got it .

 

[TheGreenHornet]

It all comes down to people and those who for whatever reason decide that their personal wants,needs or desire are more important than what society deems tp be unlawful.....i.e. if I want to smoke marijuana I dont care what 'moma don't allow....gonna smoke dat weed anyhow" If i am hungry and want a stake even though I dont have money to buy dat steak...gonna steal dat steak',
If i need some money and have no job, no credit card nor any sort of bank account ...gonna steal dat money somehow'.....bottom line you can enact all sorts of law that cover just about everything under the sun....but never expect a certain segment of society to abide by those laws.

 

[Godboy]

Where’s the irony ?

Criminals don't follow gun control laws. Get it now, dummy?

That’s not ironic .

And we have no idea where that gun came from and how any lack of gun control is how the criminal got it .

^ Doesn't know the meaning of "irony".

 

[monkrules]

Hope he was wearing Depends, like trump does...