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Yeah, but making a misdemenor a felony is accompanied by a longer prison sentence. Which means more jail....more expense....and a longer wait until they can actually be deported.
Maybe just deporting them would be the best approach. Its certainly *far* less expensive than the trial, appeals, multi-year incarceration and THEN deportation.
Convict them, ship them home. We could do it in days.
If we catch them again, then we put them in prison.
That's contrary to 'zero tolerance'. You seem to oppose Trump's plan as well.
How is it contrary to zero tolerance?
Zero Tolerance requires full prosecution and sentences in jail for any offense. And criminal trials take time and are very different that administrative justices in the immigration system. Criminal trials require judges to follow the constitution. Administrative justices must follow the mandates of the Justice Department.
More expense, more time, child separation, multiple branches of the government, cross departmental coordination, all sorts of problems.
Its why virtually every administration before Trump avoided it.
Zero Tolerance requires full prosecution and sentences in jail for any offense.
Where did Trump say that these currently detained illegal aliens should be prosecuted and jailed?
Holding them until their "asylum" claims can be examined is not holding them for prosecution, AFAIK.
Well, why shouldn’t it be criminal? It is in most other countries! How do you think Mexico, for instance, would react if 20 million Americans landed uninvited in their country?Convict them, ship them home. We could do it in days.
If we catch them again, then we put them in prison.
That's contrary to 'zero tolerance'. You seem to oppose Trump's plan as well.
How is it contrary to zero tolerance?
Zero Tolerance requires full prosecution and sentences in jail for any offense. And criminal trials take time and are very different that administrative justices in the immigration system. Criminal trials require judges to follow the constitution. Administrative justices must follow the mandates of the Justice Department.
More expense, more time, child separation, multiple branches of the government, cross departmental coordination, all sorts of problems.
Its why virtually every administration before Trump avoided it.
Zero Tolerance requires full prosecution and sentences in jail for any offense.
Where did Trump say that these currently detained illegal aliens should be prosecuted and jailed?
Holding them until their "asylum" claims can be examined is not holding them for prosecution, AFAIK.
Check zero tolerance out:
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
This is criminal prosecution for any illegal entry. And all expense, resources, time, child separation, and other enormous problems that come with it. This is separate from their policy for asylum seekers.
Well, why shouldn’t it be criminal? It is in most other countries! How do you think Mexico, for instance, would react if 20 million Americans landed uninvited in their country?That's contrary to 'zero tolerance'. You seem to oppose Trump's plan as well.
How is it contrary to zero tolerance?
Zero Tolerance requires full prosecution and sentences in jail for any offense. And criminal trials take time and are very different that administrative justices in the immigration system. Criminal trials require judges to follow the constitution. Administrative justices must follow the mandates of the Justice Department.
More expense, more time, child separation, multiple branches of the government, cross departmental coordination, all sorts of problems.
Its why virtually every administration before Trump avoided it.
Zero Tolerance requires full prosecution and sentences in jail for any offense.
Where did Trump say that these currently detained illegal aliens should be prosecuted and jailed?
Holding them until their "asylum" claims can be examined is not holding them for prosecution, AFAIK.
Check zero tolerance out:
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
This is criminal prosecution for any illegal entry. And all expense, resources, time, child separation, and other enormous problems that come with it. This is separate from their policy for asylum seekers.
Deportation does not work. The assclowns keep coming back. Spend the money on a wall and militarize it.Well, why shouldn’t it be criminal? It is in most other countries! How do you think Mexico, for instance, would react if 20 million Americans landed uninvited in their country?How is it contrary to zero tolerance?
Zero Tolerance requires full prosecution and sentences in jail for any offense. And criminal trials take time and are very different that administrative justices in the immigration system. Criminal trials require judges to follow the constitution. Administrative justices must follow the mandates of the Justice Department.
More expense, more time, child separation, multiple branches of the government, cross departmental coordination, all sorts of problems.
Its why virtually every administration before Trump avoided it.
Zero Tolerance requires full prosecution and sentences in jail for any offense.
Where did Trump say that these currently detained illegal aliens should be prosecuted and jailed?
Holding them until their "asylum" claims can be examined is not holding them for prosecution, AFAIK.
Check zero tolerance out:
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
This is criminal prosecution for any illegal entry. And all expense, resources, time, child separation, and other enormous problems that come with it. This is separate from their policy for asylum seekers.
Putting people in prison and trying them in criminal courts is hugely expensive. I have no problem with holding the threat of prosecution in reserve. But STARTING with it is not bright. Especially with the lack of forethought and coordination that the Trump administration did it.
Deport them. Its cheaper, quicker, and far more humane than child separation.
Yep.Illegal border-crosser breaks both legs after fall from top of wall, Border Patrol says
A man trying to enter the U.S. illegally broke both of his legs and suffered a back injury Sunday after falling 30 feet from the top of a U.S.-Mexico border wall in California, federal Border Patrol officials said.
The injured man was discovered behind an outlet mall around 9 p.m., a Border Patrol news release said. Paramedics arriving at the scene determined the man had suffered bilateral femur fractures to both legs as well as an unspecified back injury, the release said.
Now the US taxpayer is on the hook for all of his expenses!
How about we send him to your house.Nah! Mexico!The hospital in Mexico.El Centro Regional Medical CenterIllegal border-crosser breaks both legs after fall from top of wall, Border Patrol says
A man trying to enter the U.S. illegally broke both of his legs and suffered a back injury Sunday after falling 30 feet from the top of a U.S.-Mexico border wall in California, federal Border Patrol officials said.
The injured man was discovered behind an outlet mall around 9 p.m., a Border Patrol news release said. Paramedics arriving at the scene determined the man had suffered bilateral femur fractures to both legs as well as an unspecified back injury, the release said.
Now the US taxpayer is on the hook for all of his expenses!
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So they couldn't drive him to the hospital?
No in the US.
No in the US.
Deportation does not work. The assclowns keep coming back. Spend the money on a wall and militarize it.Well, why shouldn’t it be criminal? It is in most other countries! How do you think Mexico, for instance, would react if 20 million Americans landed uninvited in their country?Zero Tolerance requires full prosecution and sentences in jail for any offense. And criminal trials take time and are very different that administrative justices in the immigration system. Criminal trials require judges to follow the constitution. Administrative justices must follow the mandates of the Justice Department.
More expense, more time, child separation, multiple branches of the government, cross departmental coordination, all sorts of problems.
Its why virtually every administration before Trump avoided it.
Zero Tolerance requires full prosecution and sentences in jail for any offense.
Where did Trump say that these currently detained illegal aliens should be prosecuted and jailed?
Holding them until their "asylum" claims can be examined is not holding them for prosecution, AFAIK.
Check zero tolerance out:
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
This is criminal prosecution for any illegal entry. And all expense, resources, time, child separation, and other enormous problems that come with it. This is separate from their policy for asylum seekers.
Putting people in prison and trying them in criminal courts is hugely expensive. I have no problem with holding the threat of prosecution in reserve. But STARTING with it is not bright. Especially with the lack of forethought and coordination that the Trump administration did it.
Deport them. Its cheaper, quicker, and far more humane than child separation.
Don’t let them get here in the first place. We have been going through this shit for decades let’s get it done. I am sick of being looked upon as the world’s sugar tit then listening to people worldwide scorn us as if they were the only fucking countries in the fucking world entitled to borders!Deportation does not work. The assclowns keep coming back. Spend the money on a wall and militarize it.Well, why shouldn’t it be criminal? It is in most other countries! How do you think Mexico, for instance, would react if 20 million Americans landed uninvited in their country?Zero Tolerance requires full prosecution and sentences in jail for any offense.
Where did Trump say that these currently detained illegal aliens should be prosecuted and jailed?
Holding them until their "asylum" claims can be examined is not holding them for prosecution, AFAIK.
Check zero tolerance out:
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
This is criminal prosecution for any illegal entry. And all expense, resources, time, child separation, and other enormous problems that come with it. This is separate from their policy for asylum seekers.
Putting people in prison and trying them in criminal courts is hugely expensive. I have no problem with holding the threat of prosecution in reserve. But STARTING with it is not bright. Especially with the lack of forethought and coordination that the Trump administration did it.
Deport them. Its cheaper, quicker, and far more humane than child separation.
Then prosecute them if they return. But starting with prosecution is hugely expensive. It involves a completely different branch of government, takes huge amounts of time, and involves hideously expensive incarceration.
Prosecuting repeat offenders makes sense. But STARTING with the most expensive, time consuming process first? That's just a bad idea.
Don’t let them get here in the first place. We have been going through this shit for decades let’s get it done. I am sick of being looked upon as the world’s sugar tit then listening to people worldwide scorn us as if they were the only fucking countries in the fucking world entitled to borders!Deportation does not work. The assclowns keep coming back. Spend the money on a wall and militarize it.Well, why shouldn’t it be criminal? It is in most other countries! How do you think Mexico, for instance, would react if 20 million Americans landed uninvited in their country?Check zero tolerance out:
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
Attorney General Announces Zero-Tolerance Policy for Criminal Illegal Entry
This is criminal prosecution for any illegal entry. And all expense, resources, time, child separation, and other enormous problems that come with it. This is separate from their policy for asylum seekers.
Putting people in prison and trying them in criminal courts is hugely expensive. I have no problem with holding the threat of prosecution in reserve. But STARTING with it is not bright. Especially with the lack of forethought and coordination that the Trump administration did it.
Deport them. Its cheaper, quicker, and far more humane than child separation.
Then prosecute them if they return. But starting with prosecution is hugely expensive. It involves a completely different branch of government, takes huge amounts of time, and involves hideously expensive incarceration.
Prosecuting repeat offenders makes sense. But STARTING with the most expensive, time consuming process first? That's just a bad idea.
How about we send him to your house.Nah! Mexico!The hospital in Mexico.El Centro Regional Medical Center
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So they couldn't drive him to the hospital?
No in the US.
No in the US.
Yea well, how’s it been working so far? Your argument is now lame!Don’t let them get here in the first place. We have been going through this shit for decades let’s get it done. I am sick of being looked upon as the world’s sugar tit then listening to people worldwide scorn us as if they were the only fucking countries in the fucking world entitled to borders!Deportation does not work. The assclowns keep coming back. Spend the money on a wall and militarize it.Well, why shouldn’t it be criminal? It is in most other countries! How do you think Mexico, for instance, would react if 20 million Americans landed uninvited in their country?
Putting people in prison and trying them in criminal courts is hugely expensive. I have no problem with holding the threat of prosecution in reserve. But STARTING with it is not bright. Especially with the lack of forethought and coordination that the Trump administration did it.
Deport them. Its cheaper, quicker, and far more humane than child separation.
Then prosecute them if they return. But starting with prosecution is hugely expensive. It involves a completely different branch of government, takes huge amounts of time, and involves hideously expensive incarceration.
Prosecuting repeat offenders makes sense. But STARTING with the most expensive, time consuming process first? That's just a bad idea.
They're going to get here. The question is what do we do with them when we do.
I argue that its best to lead with the LEAST expensive, LEAST time consuming, SIMPLEST process first rather than the MOST expensive, MOST time consuming and MOST COMPLICATED process first.
Deport first. If they return, prosecute.
Yea well, how’s it been working so far? Your argument is now lame!Don’t let them get here in the first place. We have been going through this shit for decades let’s get it done. I am sick of being looked upon as the world’s sugar tit then listening to people worldwide scorn us as if they were the only fucking countries in the fucking world entitled to borders!Deportation does not work. The assclowns keep coming back. Spend the money on a wall and militarize it.Putting people in prison and trying them in criminal courts is hugely expensive. I have no problem with holding the threat of prosecution in reserve. But STARTING with it is not bright. Especially with the lack of forethought and coordination that the Trump administration did it.
Deport them. Its cheaper, quicker, and far more humane than child separation.
Then prosecute them if they return. But starting with prosecution is hugely expensive. It involves a completely different branch of government, takes huge amounts of time, and involves hideously expensive incarceration.
Prosecuting repeat offenders makes sense. But STARTING with the most expensive, time consuming process first? That's just a bad idea.
They're going to get here. The question is what do we do with them when we do.
I argue that its best to lead with the LEAST expensive, LEAST time consuming, SIMPLEST process first rather than the MOST expensive, MOST time consuming and MOST COMPLICATED process first.
Deport first. If they return, prosecute.
What I meant, quite EXPLICITLY, is that he should have been dumped over into Mexico for Medical treatment.How about we send him to your house.Nah! Mexico!The hospital in Mexico.
No in the US.
No in the US.
The hosp I referred to is in the US, and he said it wasn't. Keep up. Yet they said they flew him, and that is why I so doubt the story.
Tell that to the Steinle family!Yea well, how’s it been working so far? Your argument is now lame!Don’t let them get here in the first place. We have been going through this shit for decades let’s get it done. I am sick of being looked upon as the world’s sugar tit then listening to people worldwide scorn us as if they were the only fucking countries in the fucking world entitled to borders!Deportation does not work. The assclowns keep coming back. Spend the money on a wall and militarize it.
Then prosecute them if they return. But starting with prosecution is hugely expensive. It involves a completely different branch of government, takes huge amounts of time, and involves hideously expensive incarceration.
Prosecuting repeat offenders makes sense. But STARTING with the most expensive, time consuming process first? That's just a bad idea.
They're going to get here. The question is what do we do with them when we do.
I argue that its best to lead with the LEAST expensive, LEAST time consuming, SIMPLEST process first rather than the MOST expensive, MOST time consuming and MOST COMPLICATED process first.
Deport first. If they return, prosecute.
Not great for Trump. His 'zero tolerance' policy has had little effect on illegal immigration and has cost us tremendous amounts of resources and time over simple deportation.
There's nothing lame about leading with the least expensive options first. And keeping the more expensive options in reserve.
What I meant, quite EXPLICITLY, is that he should have been dumped over into Mexico for Medical treatment.How about we send him to your house.Nah! Mexico!No in the US.
No in the US.
The hosp I referred to is in the US, and he said it wasn't. Keep up. Yet they said they flew him, and that is why I so doubt the story.
Liberals are getting dumber by the moment.
Tell that to the Steinle family!Yea well, how’s it been working so far? Your argument is now lame!Don’t let them get here in the first place. We have been going through this shit for decades let’s get it done. I am sick of being looked upon as the world’s sugar tit then listening to people worldwide scorn us as if they were the only fucking countries in the fucking world entitled to borders!Then prosecute them if they return. But starting with prosecution is hugely expensive. It involves a completely different branch of government, takes huge amounts of time, and involves hideously expensive incarceration.
Prosecuting repeat offenders makes sense. But STARTING with the most expensive, time consuming process first? That's just a bad idea.
They're going to get here. The question is what do we do with them when we do.
I argue that its best to lead with the LEAST expensive, LEAST time consuming, SIMPLEST process first rather than the MOST expensive, MOST time consuming and MOST COMPLICATED process first.
Deport first. If they return, prosecute.
Not great for Trump. His 'zero tolerance' policy has had little effect on illegal immigration and has cost us tremendous amounts of resources and time over simple deportation.
There's nothing lame about leading with the least expensive options first. And keeping the more expensive options in reserve.
Too late for Kate. A wall might have turned out differently, we wouldn’t have had an asshole returning five times with an asshole city full of libtards giving him sanctuary!Tell that to the Steinle family!Yea well, how’s it been working so far? Your argument is now lame!Don’t let them get here in the first place. We have been going through this shit for decades let’s get it done. I am sick of being looked upon as the world’s sugar tit then listening to people worldwide scorn us as if they were the only fucking countries in the fucking world entitled to borders!
They're going to get here. The question is what do we do with them when we do.
I argue that its best to lead with the LEAST expensive, LEAST time consuming, SIMPLEST process first rather than the MOST expensive, MOST time consuming and MOST COMPLICATED process first.
Deport first. If they return, prosecute.
Not great for Trump. His 'zero tolerance' policy has had little effect on illegal immigration and has cost us tremendous amounts of resources and time over simple deportation.
There's nothing lame about leading with the least expensive options first. And keeping the more expensive options in reserve.
We both agree that repeat offenders should be prosecuted. Tell that to the Steinle family.
Flew him by helicopter to a hospital in Palm Springs. Why would that be fake? Flying him to the nearest hospital that handles his type of injuries? And that information came directly from the boarder patrol.How about we send him to your house.Nah! Mexico!The hospital in Mexico.
No in the US.
No in the US.
The hosp I referred to is in the US, and he said it wasn't. Keep up. Yet they said they flew him, and that is why I so doubt the story.
