Ignoring inconvenient climate model failures

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    That seems to be the overriding theme from warmists in the forum.

    I have posted numerous times, well documented modeling failures that should have at least caused warmists pause and think about it, but they don't seem to with their deflecting replies trying to sweep up the freaking failures under the rug.

    Here is a jingle I found at WUWH,

    "Listen, and understand. Those CO2ists are out there. They can’t be bargained with. They can’t be reasoned with. They don’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until they are dead."
     
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    They refuse to be seen as "failed".

    In that effort they "retrain" their models ever few years to make sure there is no deviation... in doing so, they never predict anything, its all bull shit all the time... And they hope the useful idiots will eat it hook, line, and sinker.. We have plenty of sucker fish here in this forum..
     
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    Mostly, they ignore having to answer the tough question. If they do respond 9 times out of 10 it's to change the subject to a different matter. These are the people we deal with.... people who will lie cheat and steal themselves to achieving their agenda goals. That's why we will always have our guns!!:coffee:
     
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    Here are clips from just 3 published papers speaking to the fact that climate models are useless. There are literally dozens of papers and the number keeps growing.


    May common model biases reduce CMIP5’s ability to simulate the recent Pacific La Niña-like cooling?

    Over the recent three decades sea surface temperate (SST) in the eastern equatorial Pacific has decreased, which helps reduce the rate of global warming. However, most CMIP5 model simulations with historical radiative forcing do not reproduce this Pacific La Niña-like cooling. Based on the assumption of “perfect” models, previous studies have suggested that errors in simulated internal climate variations and/or external radiative forcing may cause the discrepancy between the multi-model simulations and the observation…. Based on the total 126 realizations of the 38 CMIP5 model Historical simulations, the results show that none of the 126 model historical realizations reproduce the intensity of the observed eastern Pacific [1981-2010] cooling and only one simulation produces a weak cooling (−0.007 °C per decade).”



    TCD - Recent changes in summer Greenland blocking captured by none of the CMIP5 models

    “Recent studies note a significant increase in high-pressure blocking over the Greenland region (Greenland Blocking Index, GBI) in summer since the 1990s. … We find that the recent summer GBI increase lies well outside the range of modelled past reconstructions (Historical scenario) and future GBI projections (RCP4.5 and RCP8.5). The models consistently project a future decrease in GBI (linked to an increase in NAO), which highlights a likely key deficiency of current climate models if the recently-observed circulation changes continue to persist. Given well-established connections between atmospheric pressure over the Greenland region and air temperature and precipitation extremes downstream, e.g. over Northwest Europe, this brings into question the accuracy of simulated North Atlantic jet stream changes and resulting climatological anomalies […] as well as of future projections of GrIS mass balance produced using global and regional climate models.”



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    “The temperature effects of the water and CO2 are based on spectral analysis calculations, which show that water is 11.8 times stronger a GH gas than CO2 in the present climate. … There are essential features in the long-term trends of temperature and TPW [total precipitable water], which are calculated and depicted as mean values 11 years running. The temperature has increased about 0.4°C since 1979 and has now paused at this level. The long-term trend of TPW [total precipitable water] effects shows that it has slightly decreased during the temperature-increasing period from 1979 to 2000. This means that the absolute water amount in the atmosphere does not follow the temperature increase, but is practically constant, reacting only very slightly to the long-term trends of temperature changes. The assumption that relative humidity is constant and that it amplifies the GH gas changes over the longer periods by doubling the warming effects finds no grounds based on the behavior of the TWP [total precipitable water] trend. The positive water feedback exists only during the short-term ENSO events (≤4 years).”
     
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    The IPCC has officially stated that computer models cannot be used for predicting the future climate. End of story:coffee:
     
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    Utter silence from the AGW camp...…..

    Snicker.
     
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    I love the sound of crickets...sure beats the hell out of their dishonest demands that we just have faith and believe in the pseudoscience.
     
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    In my visits in forums on the net, I see warmists making total fool of themselves over this dishonest, misleading crap about Antarctica, when they get smashed on this, they go into a fetal ball and deflect, deflect and deflect, hoping the nightmare goes away.

    Antarctica loses three trillion tonnes of ice in 25 years

    By Jonathan Amos and Victoria Gill Science correspondents
    13 June 2018

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    That warmists bombs on is SCALE of the loss, it is TINY!
     
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    I like this ditty from HERE, written by Ruairi:

    Alarmists would think it no harm,
    To raise Antarctic ice-melt alarm,
    More man-made-heat panic,
    Likely suboceanic,
    Just to build yet another wind farm.
     
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    Lol.....but how boring it would be around here without all the k00k gheyness?!! It's our entertainment tic Tommy!:113:
     

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