Hey guys! How's it going! So, why did I bring up this old thread? Because Sunsettommy arrived after I started my long break. I'm used to the other deniers. They haven't changed at all, same old sulky failed arguments and helplessly flapping wrists. Boring. I crave fresh meat. I'll get it by calling Sunsettommy out on his own thread, and ripping apart his fraudulent claims about models. The models have been stellar. Anyone saying otherwise is lying. The models have basically predicted 0.20C/decade (anyone saying they predicted 0.30C/decade is peddling a falsehood), and the climate has responded with 0.19C/decade (anyone saying the warming has been 0.13C/decade is peddling a falsehood.) So, the models were spot-on. Analysis: How well have climate models projected global warming? | Carbon Brief Climate model projections compared to observations So, Sunsettommy, why were your claims about models so wildly incorrect? You got some 'splainin to do. And please, don't start out by saying how all the hard data is a socialist plot. Save that ace-in-the-hole cult conspiracy theory for after you've been reduced to helplessly weeping out of hysterical desperation, then trot it out as your final admission of humiliating defeat. Leading with it, that would be way too soon.