Discussion in 'Politics' started by JBeukema, Apr 1, 2011.
Why do cons worship a union leader?
So you can't explain how unions are evil but a union leader was the greatest man since Jesus?
I don't condone freebasing cocaine either. Does that mean I shouldn't laugh at Richard Pryor, John Belushi, or Chris Farley?
Because he wasn't an ideologue and knew that Unions had a proper purpose and place which do not extend universally to every situation??
I don't think he could make it through the primaries today.
I didn't like Reagan, for a myriad of reasons. I'm not a 'Reagan Conservative', with that said, in response to OP. PATCO.
I wish he were here to give it a try.
Argumentum ad Absurdium (Argument to the absurd/extremes)
Person 1: I don't like it when Mike takes a whiz on the carpet.
Person 2: Based on the above statement, Person 1 HATES Mike.
Just because people of a conservative bent are critical of union practices does not mean they hate and/or want to abolish all unions.
When it comes to public sector unions the complaint is that they do not have the checks inherent in a private company/private worker union, namely the owners representatives cannot give away so much without bankrupting the company. In government, the owners representatives (politicians) do not have that limitation, and as an addition may have a vested interest in letting the union get as much as they want.
This is what created the problem when it became easier for the politicians at the time to back load the workers compensation into thier retirement and benefits as opposed to raising salaries, with no concern on how to pay it in the future.
Unions became a legitimate target when they stopped helping the people they are supposedly paid to represent and instead became political operatives for one particular party.
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