If the democrats care about the working class

[Claudette]

both parties have worked hard to give mexicans a place in the us...dont think its just one party or the other....

do you see the gop deporting them....what would the cost of deportation be to the taxpayer....they are a cheap labor pool...benefitting both parties with a voting pool...you just wait....gop will have a plan soon too....bush never put the national guard on the borders..and the fence is a joke....neither party has gone after the business owners with hard fines and consequenses why is that

Totally agree.

Neither party is interested in securing the border. Each has an agenda.

If either of them were serious then they would have the NG or Army on the border to secure it.

I wish we could deport all the illegals but I don't see it happeningeither.

I also don't want to see amnesty. All those in this country illegally need to get behind those who are coming in legally. They need to be in the very back of that line.

 

[blastoff]

A lot of Washington Dimocrats are wealthy elites who don't really care about the working class. They toss some bones now and then to keep them happy and secure their votes.

 

[editec]

To create a larger pool of poor people, that way they can cut salaries further and reduce living standards for the people already in America, after all that's the only sane reason.

...all the while making empty promises they have no intention to fulfill, and blaming Republicans for everything, thus ensuring a new bloc of loyal Democrat voters.

Bingo.

Its all about the hispanic vote.

And when Reagan gave AMNESTY to the illegals that TOO was about the hispanic votes?

In part that is certainly true.

And it is ALSO about giving those industries which have taken to hiring illegals because they work cheap.

And yes, BOTH parties are in on it.

As is so clearly evidenced by the past history of BOTH parties.

 

[rikules]

No answer in defense of the democrats?
Why increase the numbers of workers when so many Citizens are out of a job?

cons tell me that t here have been 40 million abortions in America over the last 30 years or so...

cons believe that there should have been NO ABORTIONS!

if there had been 0 abortions instead of 40 million there would be 40 million MORE people in America .....to feed....
without jobs.....

 

[VaYank5150]

No answer in defense of the democrats?
Why increase the numbers of workers when so many Citizens are out of a job?

These immigrants are already working, and have already taken the jobs from Americans. Done under Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush....

However, with our huge defecit, it would be nice to actually see some tax revenue from these supposed 20 million illegal immigrants "hiding in the shadows"....wouldn't you agree?

 

[rightwinger]

Why are they tring to force Twenty million new citizens on the people of this country?

To create a larger pool of poor people, that way they can cut salaries further and reduce living standards for the people already in America, after all that's the only sane reason.

...all the while making empty promises they have no intention to fulfill, and blaming Republicans for everything, thus ensuring a new bloc of loyal Democrat voters.

Neither the Democrats or the Republicans care about doing anything about illegal aliens. Too much money is being made off of their illegal status. Do you think business owners want to start paying legal wages and Social Security benefits?

If we were serious, we would throw employers in jail....jobs would dry up soon enough

 

[daveman]

No answer in defense of the democrats?
Why increase the numbers of workers when so many Citizens are out of a job?

cons tell me that t here have been 40 million abortions in America over the last 30 years or so...

cons believe that there should have been NO ABORTIONS!

if there had been 0 abortions instead of 40 million there would be 40 million MORE people in America .....to feed....
without jobs.....

Perhaps you should do the honorable thing. You know...for the children.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

both parties have worked hard to give mexicans a place in the us...dont think its just one party or the other....

do you see the gop deporting them....what would the cost of deportation be to the taxpayer....they are a cheap labor pool...benefitting both parties with a voting pool...you just wait....gop will have a plan soon too....bush never put the national guard on the borders..and the fence is a joke....neither party has gone after the business owners with hard fines and consequenses why is that

Fine give them citizenship but when the economy picks up and people start working again. You do not take the livelyhood of a citizen to give their livelyhood to a non citizen just for a vote.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No answer in defense of the democrats?
Why increase the numbers of workers when so many Citizens are out of a job?

These immigrants are already working, and have already taken the jobs from Americans. Done under Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush....

However, with our huge defecit, it would be nice to actually see some tax revenue from these supposed 20 million illegal immigrants "hiding in the shadows"....wouldn't you agree?

I do not think it's about jobs. Its about new votes. What better way for nancy pelosi to stay in power then add 20 million new voters.
Texas will be a blue state the south will be all blue. Get the picture now?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Can anybody tell me where the figure 12 million, or 20 million, comes from? Gets bandied around a lot as fact...yet I have never seen a provable source for that information.

The Book of Derp.

The book of derp author by art 15

 

[shintao]

What? Did the twenty million give you a clue?

Well I guess you are meaning the highest estimate of the number of Illegal Immigrants. Look once again, if they are undocumented, how are you suppose to find them? Pull over every mexican, profile? Yeah that sounds like what a free nation does. Punishs you for being different and makes your life harder because you look like someone who might be illegal.

"Well they should just submit to it because its for the good of the country."

Okay then what about full body scans. It can be argued that they are for the good of the country that everyone does it. But no that violates the fourth amendment, you know unreasonable search and seizures. Oh but white people are all up in arms about it so its against the law. But we will allow policeman to stop every mexican and search them for their ID even if they are outside of their house.

See the problem, unless you have proof that they are here illegally, you can't just ship out all Mexicans. What we are already doing is helping. What more could you do that doesn't violate the consitution and the civil rights of ALL Americans.

The highest estimate or the lowest estimate doesn't matter when you have almost 10 percent of Americans on unemployment. and that is an under the estimate number. It's more like 17 percent.

So arrest employers that hire illegals, afterall if the illegal doesn't have a job he won't stay here. Confiscate the entire property of the employer & sell it in gov. auction, and throw his family in the street. Give the employer 20 years in a federal prison cell, with the illegal he hired. Afterall, the employer is going to need a butt buddy, and we can used the illegal to clean deserts, road work & forests. 20 million ought to put a dent in the clean up and the employers arsehole....... LOL!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Well I guess you are meaning the highest estimate of the number of Illegal Immigrants. Look once again, if they are undocumented, how are you suppose to find them? Pull over every mexican, profile? Yeah that sounds like what a free nation does. Punishs you for being different and makes your life harder because you look like someone who might be illegal.

"Well they should just submit to it because its for the good of the country."

Okay then what about full body scans. It can be argued that they are for the good of the country that everyone does it. But no that violates the fourth amendment, you know unreasonable search and seizures. Oh but white people are all up in arms about it so its against the law. But we will allow policeman to stop every mexican and search them for their ID even if they are outside of their house.

See the problem, unless you have proof that they are here illegally, you can't just ship out all Mexicans. What we are already doing is helping. What more could you do that doesn't violate the consitution and the civil rights of ALL Americans.

The highest estimate or the lowest estimate doesn't matter when you have almost 10 percent of Americans on unemployment. and that is an under the estimate number. It's more like 17 percent.

So arrest employers that hire illegals, afterall if the illegal doesn't have a job he won't stay here. Confiscate the entire property of the employer & sell it in gov. auction, and throw his family in the street. Give the employer 20 years in a federal prison cell, with the illegal he hired. Afterall, the employer is going to need a butt buddy, and we can used the illegal to clean deserts, road work & forests. 20 million ought to put a dent in the clean up.

Why use illegals for anything when you have a lot of people on welfare put them to work doing that stuff..

 

[rdean]

If the democrats care about the working class

The Democrats ARE the "working class".

 

[bigrebnc1775]

If the democrats care about the working class

The Democrats ARE the "working class".

Horseshit.

 

[shintao]

The highest estimate or the lowest estimate doesn't matter when you have almost 10 percent of Americans on unemployment. and that is an under the estimate number. It's more like 17 percent.

So arrest employers that hire illegals, afterall if the illegal doesn't have a job he won't stay here. Confiscate the entire property of the employer & sell it in gov. auction, and throw his family in the street. Give the employer 20 years in a federal prison cell, with the illegal he hired. Afterall, the employer is going to need a butt buddy, and we can used the illegal to clean deserts, road work & forests. 20 million ought to put a dent in the clean up.

Why use illegals for anything when you have a lot of people on welfare put them to work doing that stuff..

Because it is these illegals that have turned our Southern deserts into shit holes and tons of debre. Send them out there in the 120 degree weather and let a bunch of them die. As word gets back to Mexico, the illegal numbers will slow way down.

As for people on Welfare/jobless, take them to the forest and start chopping down trees and turning them into wooden building materials, so more welfare people can build homes by the thousand until we solve the homeless problem. Just like the company store, the only thing they get is three square meals and a place to stay IF they work. You ought to see the welfare roles and all those job offerrings dwindle.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

democrats never fail to amaze me.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKpC64i3Lb4&NR=1[/ame]
Jobs nancy? You say you want to help Americans with jobs but you want to give amesty to illegals to work here? How does that work?

 

[rdean]

democrats never fail to amaze me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKpC64i3Lb4&NR=1
Jobs nancy? You say you want to help Americans with jobs but you want to give amesty to illegals to work here? How does that work?

Besides move jobs to China and start wars, what have Republicans done?

You don't really think old and fat Republicans are going to go out and pick apples? Do you? You can't. The thought is ridiculous.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

democrats never fail to amaze me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKpC64i3Lb4&NR=1
Jobs nancy? You say you want to help Americans with jobs but you want to give amesty to illegals to work here? How does that work?

Besides move jobs to China and start wars, what have Republicans done?

You don't really think old and fat Republicans are going to go out and pick apples? Do you? You can't. The thought is ridiculous.

I'm not playing your little game both party's have fucked this country up before obama came along but he and the current congress has magnified the fuck up times ten.

 

[hipeter924]

To create a larger pool of poor people, that way they can cut salaries further and reduce living standards for the people already in America, after all that's the only sane reason.

...all the while making empty promises they have no intention to fulfill, and blaming Republicans for everything, thus ensuring a new bloc of loyal Democrat voters.

Neither the Democrats or the Republicans care about doing anything about illegal aliens. Too much money is being made off of their illegal status. Do you think business owners want to start paying legal wages and Social Security benefits?

If we were serious, we would throw employers in jail....jobs would dry up soon enough

You think they would stop exploiting people and creating conditions of low wages and shitty jobs, simply because they can exploit illegals easier? Don't think so, both parties would create conditions like that regardless of the circumstances, they know the hand that is feeding them isn't the average American but their corporate masters.

 

[The T]

If the democrats care about the working class

The Democrats ARE the "working class".

Whatever you are smoking? Keep going with it and double up on it. Maybe the few remaining brain cells you have will prohibit any more computer entries.

You are one brain washed fool deany.