If Saddam was the leader..

[Flopper]

If Saddam was the leader in Iraq today, it's very unlikely terrorist would be marching toward Baghdad and the US would be faced with the choice between another major military commitment or another Islamic terrorist state.

Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who ruled the country with an iron fist. Through force he was able to control if not unite the dissent elements. His Secret Service infiltrated every political group and movement in the nation.


Today the central government is a weak coalition of political forces more interested in human rights, appeasing various politic factions and rebuilding the nation than defense. The Secret Service whose primary objective was to prevent and insurgence is essentially gone. The military is ill equipped to deal with the attack and the central government doesn't have the power to united the nation.

Elimination of Saddam may have been morally the right thing but a disaster in all other ways. What is happening today is exactly what so many opponents of the war predicted.

 

[Mr. H.]

I spoke with an Iraqi ex-pat couple while at a party last year.
They didn't hate Bush but they hated "what he did".
I asked if they would rather they and their families still lived under Saddam.

"No" was their reply.

 

[Moonglow]

I am sure that Saddam was no party to play with...

 

[Flopper]

No doubt life in Iraq has improved. However, the ability of the government to deal with the situation seems very limited without US involvement.


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[Vigilante]

How long were we occupying Japan before we left them to administer themselves, how long did we occupy Germany before we left them to administer themselves, we are still occupying S. Korea to maintain their existence....WE should have occupied Iraq, after Gulf War I, let the Kurds have their territory, and took Iraq's oil CONTINUALLY for payment of our services, our continued protection of their people, and payment to the multiple thousands of families that lost loved ones fighting for that people freedom. All other details could have been worked out, and with our presence on ALL ME borders, and our sophisticated spy system, in place, OBL would have been a footnote in history, as well as Al Qaeda!

 

[Interpol]

Yup, it's a pretty sad irony that Saddam would be disposing of these insurgents. Now it looks as though Iran and America are going to have to team up to do it.

 

[tinydancer]

Oh lord almighty here comes the Saddam was a cool guy crew.

I want to bazooka barf. Ok if you are so into Saddam why is the son of a bitch in the White House wanting to get rid of Assad?

How about Gaddafi? How about Mubarak?

You know what you little sons of bitches because we have caught you out for letting Baghdadi go. You let him out in 2009 you liberal assholes and we've caught you and nailed you to the wall.

 

[The Rabbi]

Saddam would be arming these insurgents with nuclear, chemical and biological weapons if Obama had first been elected in 2000.

 

[tinydancer]

Yup, it's a pretty sad irony that Saddam would be disposing of these insurgents. Now it looks as though Iran and America are going to have to team up to do it.

Obama won't. They are Sunni. I trust the Revolutionary Guard.

 

[BillyV]

If Saddam was the leader in Iraq today, it's very unlikely terrorist would be marching toward Baghdad and the US would be faced with the choice between another major military commitment or another Islamic terrorist state.

Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who ruled the country with an iron fist. Through force he was able to control if not unite the dissent elements. His Secret Service infiltrated every political group and movement in the nation.


Today the central government is a weak coalition of political forces more interested in human rights, appeasing various politic factions and rebuilding the nation than defense. The Secret Service whose primary objective was to prevent and insurgence is essentially gone. The military is ill equipped to deal with the attack and the central government doesn't have the power to united the nation.

Elimination of Saddam may have been morally the right thing but a disaster in all other ways. What is happening today is exactly what so many opponents of the war predicted.

You're right, that does seem unlikely. More likely that he would be the aggressor, invading his weaker neighbors like Kuwait. Power hungry megalomaniacs tend to do that. It's unclear whether that would have been preferable.

 

[tinydancer]

How long were we occupying Japan before we left them to administer themselves, how long did we occupy Germany before we left them to administer themselves, we are still occupying S. Korea to maintain their existence....WE should have occupied Iraq, after Gulf War I, let the Kurds have their territory, and took Iraq's oil CONTINUALLY for payment of our services, our continued protection of their people, and payment to the multiple thousands of families that lost loved ones fighting for that people freedom. All other details could have been worked out, and with our presence on ALL ME borders, and our sophisticated spy system, in place, OBL would have been a footnote in history, as well as Al Qaeda!

Sadly everyone obeyed the UN instead of doing the "right thing".

 

[Plasmaball]

Oh lord almighty here comes the Saddam was a cool guy crew.

I want to bazooka barf. Ok if you are so into Saddam why is the son of a bitch in the White House wanting to get rid of Assad?

How about Gaddafi? How about Mubarak?

You know what you little sons of bitches because we have caught you out for letting Baghdadi go. You let him out in 2009 you liberal assholes and we've caught you and nailed you to the wall.

you need to take a bazooka to your face. Seriously stop it with the Assad crap.
No this isnt about loving Saddam, its about realities, and that means facing the truth that Saddam didnt let this happen, you were told this would happen if you removed him. You didnt listen as usual, and now you have this mess.

fuck off.

 

[Plasmaball]

Saddam would be arming these insurgents with nuclear, chemical and biological weapons if Obama had first been elected in 2000.

nope

 

[tinydancer]

If Saddam was the leader in Iraq today, it's very unlikely terrorist would be marching toward Baghdad and the US would be faced with the choice between another major military commitment or another Islamic terrorist state.

Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator who ruled the country with an iron fist. Through force he was able to control if not unite the dissent elements. His Secret Service infiltrated every political group and movement in the nation.


Today the central government is a weak coalition of political forces more interested in human rights, appeasing various politic factions and rebuilding the nation than defense. The Secret Service whose primary objective was to prevent and insurgence is essentially gone. The military is ill equipped to deal with the attack and the central government doesn't have the power to united the nation.

Elimination of Saddam may have been morally the right thing but a disaster in all other ways. What is happening today is exactly what so many opponents of the war predicted.

You're right, that does seem unlikely. More likely that he would be the aggressor, invading his weaker neighbors like Kuwait. Power hungry megalomaniacs tend to do that. It's unclear whether that would have been preferable.

Kuwaitis are running with Yay Saddam is dead and the OP is an asshole

 

[tinydancer]

Oh lord almighty here comes the Saddam was a cool guy crew.

I want to bazooka barf. Ok if you are so into Saddam why is the son of a bitch in the White House wanting to get rid of Assad?

How about Gaddafi? How about Mubarak?

You know what you little sons of bitches because we have caught you out for letting Baghdadi go. You let him out in 2009 you liberal assholes and we've caught you and nailed you to the wall.

you need to take a bazooka to your face. Seriously stop it with the Assad crap.
No this isnt about loving Saddam, its about realities, and that means facing the truth that Saddam didnt let this happen, you were told this would happen if you removed him. You didnt listen as usual, and now you have this mess.

fuck off.

Plas you are so testy. The enema didn't work?

 

[blackhawk]

You can make the argument that if Saddam was still ruling Iraq we wouldn't have the situation we have today you can also make the argument if we had worked out a deal to extend the status of forces agreement we wouldn't have it either.

 

[Plasmaball]

Oh lord almighty here comes the Saddam was a cool guy crew.

I want to bazooka barf. Ok if you are so into Saddam why is the son of a bitch in the White House wanting to get rid of Assad?

How about Gaddafi? How about Mubarak?

You know what you little sons of bitches because we have caught you out for letting Baghdadi go. You let him out in 2009 you liberal assholes and we've caught you and nailed you to the wall.

you need to take a bazooka to your face. Seriously stop it with the Assad crap.
No this isnt about loving Saddam, its about realities, and that means facing the truth that Saddam didnt let this happen, you were told this would happen if you removed him. You didnt listen as usual, and now you have this mess.

fuck off.

Plas you are so testy. The enema didn't work?

bazooka to your face

 

[tinydancer]

Look el liberals if we want to really freaking get in someones face let's get in the face of the League of Nations.

They created Iraq. And we should stand up and have the balls to undo this abomination. Have the guts to take a look at the real world and undo bullshit that was forced upon all these peoples.

 

[tinydancer]

Kurds. State.

Shia. State.

Sunni. State.

Lets undo the insane past and make something right.

 

[Vigilante]

you need to take a bazooka to your face. Seriously stop it with the Assad crap.
No this isnt about loving Saddam, its about realities, and that means facing the truth that Saddam didnt let this happen, you were told this would happen if you removed him. You didnt listen as usual, and now you have this mess.

fuck off.

Plas you are so testy. The enema didn't work?

bazooka to your face

PBall gets what he deserves!

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