If republicans are so bad............

[MalibuMan]

Why the heck they keep getting elected? The last 40 years we have had only 12 years uder a democratic president.

 

[CSM]

Why the heck they keep getting elected? The last 40 years we have had only 12 years uder a democratic president.

Because the Reps lie cheat and steal. They take advantage of the poor helpless Democrats and make them look bad. It simply must be because the Dems aren't wise to the ways of the world...oh wait, that cant be right ...

Uh I dunno! How come they keep getting elected?

 

[MalibuMan]

All politicians lie cheat and steal. LOL

 

[SwingVoter]

We've seen why this year. Obama should be up 10-12 points. But instead of focusing on a few major themes, he and the Dems have a weak, scattershot approach of throwing every minor point they can find, and in the process have drowned out their own message with nonsense about pregnant teenagers, troopers, what George Bush said in 2003, etc.

O should tell his friends at CNN and MSNBC to STFU about every detail of Palin's life or Bush's record, and set an agenda around a couple major themes.

 

[CSM]

All politicians lie cheat and steal. LOL

Yep they do. I think the difference is that the citizens get to choose who the politicians lie to, who gets shafted when politicians cheat, and who the politicians steal from. It's called "the two party system" and you have to choose one side or the other or you don't get to play.

 

[MalibuMan]

I know. This should be the easiest election for the dems to win. With the bad approval rating of Bush, war, gas prices you name it.

They the Dems should be asking themselves what the hell is going on?

Even if they win by a close margin something is wrong. This should be a slam dunk election for the dems.

 

[sealybobo]

Why the heck they keep getting elected? The last 40 years we have had only 12 years uder a democratic president.

Google Karl Rove to answer your question.

Gore & Kerry won the last two elections. If you add those to Clinton's run, Democrats were elected everytime since daddy bush was thrown out of office.

Why is it even close? God, Gays and Guns. The GOP have mastered the wedge issues. They get middle class people to vote against their own financial interests.

That's right, you are voting outside your tax bracket.

They scare people into thinking terrorists will strike us if the dems win. They say taxes will go up. They say things like, "tax and spenders".

And the typical voter is not that brite. You know that's true.

Also consider the Southern Strategy:

In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to a Republican method of carrying Southern states in the latter decades of the 20th century and first decade of the 21st century by exploiting racism among white voters.

 

[MalibuMan]

I don't believe any election was stolen. But given the chance I think both sides would do it in a heart beat.

 

[sealybobo]

I don't believe any election was stolen. But given the chance I think both sides would do it in a heart beat.

bradblog.com deals mostly with voting machines being hacked, but it's a good start. Then google caging voters. Then google shorting heavily black/democratic precincts of enough voting machines so people had to wait 4 hours to vote. Google Ken Blackwell certified the Ohio vote before kerry could ask for a recount.

Google the 2 bitches that are in jail for 18 months because they threw away votes in Ohio. You don't believe FACTS?

Then google what happened in Florida. If you are shown all the different tactics the GOP used in Florida and Ohio and don't think they stole the last two elections, then you are a moron.

t r u t h o u t | Ten Ways the GOP Is Now Stealing the Ohio Vote

ThomHartmann.com - How To Take Back A Stolen Election

ThomHartmann.com - 'Stinking Evidence' of Possible Election Fraud Found in Florida

Actually, there are several different op ed pieces where if you read them and still don't believe, it's because you don't want to believe.

ThomHartmann.com - Democracy/Politics

 

[MalibuMan]

Any you think dems are squeaky clean? ROTFLMAO

 

[MalibuMan]

Another thing. It looks more and more to me that the dems are just becoming sore losers. They can't win, so they blame others for it.

 

[sealybobo]

Another thing. It looks more and more to me that the dems are just becoming sore losers. They can't win, so they blame others for it.

What an utter cop out! That's all you got? So you agree/conceed the GOP stole the last two elections. You're fuckin A right we are sore about it. Why aren't you? What if the GOP ends up being horrible at governing and you want to change your vote to Democrat or 3rd party? Doesn't matter who you vote for because THEY have decided for you that they win.

That should bother you. As a patriot, american, person who believes in the constitution.

You should not be ignoring that the last two elections have been rigged.

Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia voting machines are owned by loyal Bush donors.

No wonder politicians are corrupt. What kind of politicians does a greedy ignorant society expect? Garbage in, garbage out. Corrupt politicians don't come from outer space. They come from American homes, schools, churches, families, parents. Politicians don't suck, people suck. Put that on a bumper sticker. GEORGE CARLIN

 

[HoleInTheVoid]

Google Karl Rove to answer your question.

Gore & Kerry won the last two elections. If you add those to Clinton's run, Democrats were elected everytime since daddy bush was thrown out of office.

Why is it even close? God, Gays and Guns. The GOP have mastered the wedge issues. They get middle class people to vote against their own financial interests.

That's right, you are voting outside your tax bracket.

They scare people into thinking terrorists will strike us if the dems win. They say taxes will go up. They say things like, "tax and spenders".

And the typical voter is not that brite. You know that's true.

Also consider the Southern Strategy:

In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to a Republican method of carrying Southern states in the latter decades of the 20th century and first decade of the 21st century by exploiting racism among white voters.

Here's your answer ^

"Progressives" rely on ham-handed caricatures and sour grapes that prevent them forming valid strategies and align their agenda with that of the people they seek to govern.

The people know the elections weren't stolen and the reason why gays and guns are "wedge issues" is because people don't want to be forcibly disarmed or have gays treated as if their behavior is somehow normal. Add in the perception that the so-called southern strategy is nothing but a racist ploy is in effect calling that self-same bloc of states a bunch of bigots so who the hell wants to vote for some jackhole that totally misreads your motives (not that he'll shut-up long enough to listen to you) and uses that misreading to insult you to your face.

"Progressives" trot out the the same talking points every election cycle.

You can't call a nation that is 80% Christian and bunch of uneducated fundies and expect them to vote for you.

You can't call whites racists by virtue of their skin color and expect a nation that is 85% white to vote for you.

You can't call a nation that gushes money for every natural disaster from hurricanes down south to tsunamis across the globe mean-spirited money-grubbers and expect them to vote for.

The party of entitlements tends to feel entitled, so when they don't get what they feel is automatically due them they get snarky and ill-tempered. They mean well so obviously, to them, if their good intentions are thwarted it must be other people and they can't possibly be nice because only "progressives" are allowed to appear nice. This in turn leads to a total inability to win unless they use the Clinton strategy of appearing centrist.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Why the heck they keep getting elected? The last 40 years we have had only 12 years uder a democratic president.

Until Bush & Co. they just usually seemed the lesser of the two evils.

Why did Billy win when he did? - Same reason - compared to Bob Dole, he was the lesser man (of two evils, that is).

-Joe

 

[AllieBaba]

Because the Dems are out of touch with the populace, who see through their schtick.

The Dems think the majority of American people are STUPID, and are somehow being tricked into voting Republican because they just don't know any better. The fact is, the American people are smart, and see through the Dems, and the Dems are too fucking dumb to understand they need to change their approach and their stance. Americans recognize Dems for what they are: lying, elitist, liberal people who are unhappy with America and want to see it run into the dirt.

Your average American recognizes that, and doesn't relate.

 

[AllieBaba]

Here's your answer ^

"Progressives" rely on ham-handed caricatures and sour grapes that prevent them forming valid strategies and align their agenda with that of the people they seek to govern.

The people know the elections weren't stolen and the reason why gays and guns are "wedge issues" is because people don't want to be forcibly disarmed or have gays treated as if their behavior is somehow normal. Add in the perception that the so-called southern strategy is nothing but a racist ploy is in effect calling that self-same bloc of states a bunch of bigots so who the hell wants to vote for some jackhole that totally misreads your motives (not that he'll shut-up long enough to listen to you) and uses that misreading to insult you to your face.

"Progressives" trot out the the same talking points every election cycle.

You can't call a nation that is 80% Christian and bunch of uneducated fundies and expect them to vote for you.

You can't call whites racists by virtue of their skin color and expect a nation that is 85% white to vote for you.

You can't call a nation that gushes money for every natural disaster from hurricanes down south to tsunamis across the globe mean-spirited money-grubbers and expect them to vote for.

The party of entitlements tends to feel entitled, so when they don't get what they feel is automatically due them they get snarky and ill-tempered. They mean well so obviously, to them, if their good intentions are thwarted it must be other people and they can't possibly be nice because only "progressives" are allowed to appear nice. This in turn leads to a total inability to win unless they use the Clinton strategy of appearing centrist.

Exactly.

 

[AllieBaba]

Google Karl Rove to answer your question.

Gore & Kerry won the last two elections. If you add those to Clinton's run, Democrats were elected everytime since daddy bush was thrown out of office.

Why is it even close? God, Gays and Guns. The GOP have mastered the wedge issues. They get middle class people to vote against their own financial interests.

That's right, you are voting outside your tax bracket.

They scare people into thinking terrorists will strike us if the dems win. They say taxes will go up. They say things like, "tax and spenders".

And the typical voter is not that brite. You know that's true.

Also consider the Southern Strategy:

In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to a Republican method of carrying Southern states in the latter decades of the 20th century and first decade of the 21st century by exploiting racism among white voters.

And in action:

Booboo states that we're "not that brite"
Proof both that the left despises Americans, and they just aren't that smart themselves.

 

[sealybobo]

We've seen why this year. Obama should be up 10-12 points. But instead of focusing on a few major themes, he and the Dems have a weak, scattershot approach of throwing every minor point they can find, and in the process have drowned out their own message with nonsense about pregnant teenagers, troopers, what George Bush said in 2003, etc.

O should tell his friends at CNN and MSNBC to STFU about every detail of Palin's life or Bush's record, and set an agenda around a couple major themes.

The media was de-regulated in 1996-07 and guys like Rupert Murdoc and all the other rich and powerful corporate masters bought up all of the news channels. Didn't you know that? So now rich republicans set the agenda on cable news.

Former FCC chairman: Deregulation is a right-wing power grab
Reed Hundt says Monday's historic vote was "the culmination of the attack by the right on the media."


In a historic session on the future of the U.S. news media, Republicans on the Federal Communications Commission voted Monday to ease long-standing rules so that more and more of the nation's newspapers and broadcast stations can be concentrated in fewer and fewer hands.

So now you can show me some slanted survey from UCLA that says the media is more liberal. HA!!! Why would the rich and powerful allow it now that they own the media?

GE, Walt Disney, Liberty Media, Sony, Thomson-Reuters, AOL, AT&T, VIACOM, Bertelsmann.

What bothers me is that most of you people don't know this stuff. Some of you do and you are so brainwashed that you don't care because you think the dems/gays/liberals are worse than the rich taking over this country, but you are dead wrong. And when you finally wake up, it'll be too late. When your job is finally sent oveseas or your kid gets drafted into McCain's war, don't come crying to us. We've been warning you for 20 years now.

 

[sealybobo]

And in action:

Booboo states that we're "not that brite"
Proof both that the left despises Americans, and they just aren't that smart themselves.

Sarah Palin and her husband belong to the Alaska Independence Party that wants to suceed from the USA.

Who despises America?

 

[morpheus]

Why the heck they keep getting elected? The last 40 years we have had only 12 years uder a democratic president.

Same reason Chavez gets re-elected in Venezuela. He carries out a terrible foreign policy (which harms his country), and he sucks at diplomacy, but his rhetoric resonates with the public. His policies are a mixed bag: some are quite good, others quite bad. But the main thing that keeps him afloat is that his anger at multinational corporations and American foreign policy resonates with the public. To understand this, we must understand Venezuela's (and Latin America's) history of being ruled and taken advantage of by major powers and puppet dictators (including decades of American political meddling), and the region's political and economic structures which -until recently- benefitted only the wealthy few.

Republicans are similar. They may not necessarily have the stronger candidate on a given election, but their rhetoric on patriotism and anti-government resonates with the public. Republicans are regarded as "more American" than Democrats (which is why the Anglosaxon-Protestant ethnic majority leans more Republican), and they frequently employ the anti-government populist rhetoric. Republicans manage to succeed in separating themselves from the "government", fostering public antipathy for the state administration system, yet they ironically manage to garner unscrutinized public support on foreign policy (such as the invasion of Iraq which was almost never criticized in the media during the early years: from 2002 when the war was in planning stages, to 2005/2006-ish). And this resonates with the American psyche of "us/good" vs "the world/bad". Events like 9/11 reinforce this view. Terrorism is then completely devoid of its political roots and intentions and is rebranded as violence committed by "evil" factions who hate America just because. Republicans also indirectly promote the view that Democrats have more in common with communists (an enemy from the recent past) than with Republicans. And the frequent use of America's "liberty and freedom" national folklore in public speeches, further resonates with the American public, much more so than economic and public policy discourse.