Jimmyeatworld
Silver Member
Bullypulpit said:Unable to debate the issues...you withdraw into dumb silence.
Dude, I've been seeing your ignorant shit for a long time. You don't debate anyway. Pull the corn cob out of your ass and move along.
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Bullypulpit said:Unable to debate the issues...you withdraw into dumb silence.
Bullypulpit said:Lying about consensual sex in the Oval Office IS NOT the moral equivalent of lying about the rational for war...of lying about spying on US citizens...
If you're not angry about this Administration's moral bankruptcy, perhaps your own moral compass needs a bit of re-calibration.
sitarro said:That is my challenge to you or for that matter Jilian, jasendorf, 1549, Dr. Grump, liberallogic or any of you other Bush administration haters. Here is your chance to run the country and let all of us know what needs to happen.
Dr Grump said:What a very basic question. Go back to the US between 1992-2000. It's all there for you to see....carry on!
sitarro said:Exactly what I expected, nothing realistic, creative, or even addressing the problems this country faces today....cute.
Are those crickets I hear?
Dr Grump said:Your boy created the problems...how about enlightening us...
sitarro said:Just as I thought and stated with the challenge, no ideas, no creative thought, no plan.....you could run for office on the Democrat ticket, you are certainly no worse than any of the empty suits that have nothing but shallow criticism of the President from the left.
Dr Grump said:Ok...tell me the problems..specifically...
sitarro said:I think my challenge was quite clear, you are given the keys to the white house, what would you do today, now, this year, not a decade ago.
I like the President, although I would like to see him take charge of the borders and stop more nonskilled sponges from coming here to take advantage of this country's generosity, I understand enough to realize he has an enormous amount of information coming at him 24 hours a day. He has life or death decisions that can have rippling repercussions across the globe that he has to live with everyday. Really not a problem for a low life liar and cheat like Bill Clinton but a very heavy burden for an honest caring guy like President Bush. So I reserve my criticism for garbage like that womanizing rapist that we know all about(Bill Clinton). I find it amazing that you can't see through his simpleton aw shucks charm and understand the detrimental effect he has had on our country and it's people.
Jimmyeatworld said:Dude, I've been seeing your ignorant shit for a long time. You don't debate anyway. Pull the corn cob out of your ass and move along.
Jimmyeatworld said:Problem is nobody lied about going to war and nobody lied about "spying on U.S. citizens". Your reality compass is what needs calibration. If you want to lie to yourself and be your own Michael Moore, go right ahead, but don't expect anyone here to fall in line with you.
Bullypulpit said:Ummm...Can't string two thoughts together in consecutive sentences? But more to the point, the Bush Administration's rationale for the war in Iraq has morphed some 26 times...It may be more by now. The Downing Street Memos prove that the Administration was "...Fixing the facts around the policy..." of war with Iraq. Former Bush cabinet members and government officials have stated, for the public record, that the Bush Administration was fixated on Iraq from day one of its assumtion of office. The administration fabricated, out of whole cloth, links between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.
The evidence is there, you are unwilling to see it. Were DUbbyuh to be caught strangling a girl scout on the White House lawn, you would likely just shake your head and say, "She deserved it." The only way you, and others would renounce support for Dubbyuh would be if he were caught in bed with a live boy or a dead girl.
jillian said:Mind if I jump in? If I were in the white house, the first thing I'd do is get diverse information so I don't have a bunch of yes-men around me and I could make rational assessments.
jillian said:Can't undo the mistakes in Iraq, and can't just walk away leaving things as they are, so I'd speak to those retired generals to see what the MILITARY folk recommend instead of Rumsfeld and the other civilians.
jillian said:I'd also undo the first Executive Order that Bush did, prohibiting international funding for any organization that even mentions abortion as an option.
jillian said:I'd stop my FCC from harassing broadcasters and realize that while there have to be community standards, there are things that aren't a huge deal, and I certainly wouldn't allow any discussion about censorship of pay to view or pay to listen media.
jillian said:I'd realize that using the National Guard to defend the borders is goofy and a waste of States' money since by the time they're trained properly during their two-week stint, the next batch will have to come in. So I'd hire more INS agents and enforce EXISTING immigration laws before I tried re-vamping the whole system without thought about what works and what doesn't.
jillian said:I'd balance the budget, but not on the backs of people getting student loans and Pell grants. First I'd make sure that there were no more "bridge to no where" type projects.
jillian said:I'd get rid of the new rule that if a student has a drug conviction anywhere in their past they automatically lose their pell grants. Heck, convicted murderers aren't subject to the law, so who cares if some kid got high? It shouldn't ruin the rest of his/her life.
jillian said:I'm sure I'll think of more stuff, but that's all I have for now.
That was fun.
Oh...as for Bush, what surprises me is that a certain segment of the population can't see through the fact that this is the 10th generation child of wealth and privilege, born in Connecticut, and all the down home Texas good ole boy stuff is er... well, just put on.
sitarro said:How incredibly original, that is the first time I have seen that post .....today. Room 53 needs a spongue bath and their bedpan emptied Bully.....run along now.
sitarro said:Exactly what I expected, nothing realistic, creative, or even addressing the problems this country faces today....cute.
Are those crickets I hear?
Bullypulpit said:Your responses grow more inane, and your insults, while more personal, remain childish.
But your problem is obvious...The nurse in Labor & Delivery made a terrible mistake when you were born. She threw out the baby, leaving you...the after-birth.
BaronVonBigmeat said:^^^ He said there weren't any lies about going to war, which is true. They made it quite clear there was going to be a war. The lies were about our motivations for going to war. There's a big difference there, so get it right, Mister!
Well, for starters...
:takes a big breath:
1) Withdraw all troops from Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, Italy, Japan, etc. etc. until all american troops are on american soil, not scattered across 140-something countries.
2) Put troops on borders
3) Repeal all sanctions and trade tariffs. All countries will be treated equally with regards to trade. Any tariffs will be a single, low amount.
4) Cut all foreign aid, including funding revolutions in other countries
5) Big cuts in big ticket military items, since our main threat is laughably low-tech
6) US currency backed by gold, if there is any left in Fort Knox that is. Abolishment of the US federal reserve system and fractional reserve banking.
7) No more war on drugs, no more FDA, no more of Bush's socialist prescription drugs benefit program, no more medicaid
8) About 8 or more federal departments abolished entirely.
9) Massive auction to sell off unconstitutional federal holdings--mainly vacant land and the interstate highway system. Proceeds will go to fund social security obligations, which will then be abolished.
10) Income tax abolished, and replaced with nothing
11) No more wire-tapping, it won't catch any terrorists. Even if you don't believe the Bushies would use it to keep tabs on political opponents, you can bet your bottom dollar that future administrations will. Imagine a Clinton 2.0 administration with that kind of power.
12) New constitutional amendment: "The federal government is a creation of the states. As such, the right of any state to secede for any reason shall not be abridged".
I'm probably leaving some stuff out, but that would be enough to keep me busy my first day or so.
Bullypulpit said:That's the best you can do? Peurile insults that pass for argument...? The moral and intellectual banckruptcy of the Bush Administration and its supporters are why America is going to hell in a handbasket.
sitarro said:I guess this is why you have decided not to anwer my challenge right bullpull-it? Room 66 needs a hemorrhoid lanced, hop to it.