If No One Today Owned Slaves...

[Lesh]

Incorrect.

The years 1861-1865, and the Reconstruction and Jim Crow eras which followed, tell the true story, regardless of modern-day Democratic attempts to obfuscate.

Saying it don’t make it so and it’s not like folks with a functioning brain can’t look it up for themselves.

It was not “Dem v Republicans”

It was progressives v conservatives

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The OP is a slave to his own stupidity.

 

[Kondor3]

Saying it don’t make it so and it’s not like folks with a functioning brain can’t look it up for themselves.

It was not “Dem v Republicans”

It was progressives v conservatives

Labels matter.

Modern-day Democrats are horribly embarrassed by their horribly embarrassing legacy.

So it is understandable that they obfuscate and duck and dodge and twist and turn and wiggle in a desperate attempt to escape their historical heritage.

They can indulge in semantics and re-branding and wiggle and squirm all they like... but to no avail.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

GOP is horribly embarassed by its shift against blacks, women, and other minorities in the last thirty years.

So it is understandable that they obfuscate and duck and dodge and twist and turn and wiggle in a desperate attempt to escape their historical heritage. They can indulge in semantics and re-branding and wiggle and squirm all they like... but to no avail.

The GOP are vermin.

 

[struth]

Then why do Republicans keep trying to talk about today's Democrats and slavery?

There is a lot modern republicans choose not to tell young blacks as they try luring blacks into supporting a move back into Jim Crow. First, not all Republicans were for racial equality. The Party had several factions in the beginning. One was the Radical Republicans. The Radical Republicans were for the eradication of slavery. They were not conservatives. Frederick Douglass was a Radical Republican. Lincoln was moderate politically. He opposed the expansion of slavery but did not believe in racial equality.

As the country began splitting up, a great panic started consuming the outgoing Buchanan administration and members of congress. They wanted to keep the union together. They did not want the south to leave. They did not want war. President Buchanan declared secession was a constitutional crisis and then asked Congress to develop a plan to keep the south in the union.4 He wanted Congress to assure the southern states that slavery would be protected once Lincoln took office. Congress offered over fifty different proposals trying to keep the union together. In the end, congress settled for a proposal by Republican Thomas Corwin. It is called the Corwin Amendment, or more accurately, the slavery amendment.

The Corwin Amendment is a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution that has never been adopted, but owing to the absence of a ratification deadline, could still be adopted by the state legislatures. It would shield slavery within the states from the federal constitutional amendment process and from abolition or interference by Congress. Although the Corwin Amendment does not explicitly use the word slavery, it was designed specifically to protect slavery from federal power. The out-going 36th United States Congress proposed the Corwin Amendment on March 2, 1861, shortly before the outbreak of the American Civil War, with the intent of preventing that war and preserving the Union. It passed Congress but was not ratified by the requisite number of state legislatures.

Several Southern states attempted to secede after the 1860 presidential election, eventually forming the Confederate States of America. Several federal legislative measures, including the Corwin Amendment, were proposed during this period in the hope of either reconciling the sections of the United States or avoiding the secession of the border states. Senator William H. Seward and Representative Thomas Corwin, Republicans and allies of President-elect Abraham Lincoln, introduced the Corwin Amendment, which was endorsed by the outgoing president, James Buchanan. Because it was only ratified in a handful of Northern states and Kentucky, the amendment failed to achieve its goal of preventing civil war and preserving the Union. Ultimately, it fell out of favor during the Civil War.

Corwin Amendment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This was proposed by 2 republicans, it's documented fact and it's time republicans stopped posting disingenuous junk. Blacks know the history and the more you think we are stupid enough to fall for your tale and keep trying to tell it, the more we will refuse to become Republicans.

Nobody in the jurisdiction of the United States Govt today can legally own slaves. It's worth however discussing our history and the history of slavery in this country, to honor those that were enslaved, and to remember how such horrors can happen again...especially with the part of slavery still very much in power, and still very active in trying to oppress people in this country today

Corwin's amendment failed, and thankfully it did, he tried to appease the Dems to avoid them going to war to keep their slaves....there is no appeasing with these monster, not now, not even then.

 

[Kondor3]

GOP is horribly embarassed by its shift against blacks, women, and other minorities in the last thirty years.

So it is understandable that they obfuscate and duck and dodge and twist and turn and wiggle in a desperate attempt to escape their historical heritage. They can indulge in semantics and re-branding and wiggle and squirm all they like... but to no avail.

The GOP are vermin.

Not even close, son...

Look at all of the major American Cities that boast a large, impoverished, ghetto or ghetto-like zone, and you'll find Democrats in leadership positions.

In most cases we're talking about multi-generational Democratic control, and they perpetuate the modern-day Black Plantation concept in form and practice.

Tossing idiot Blacks just enough bones and freebies to keep 'em voting Democratic... just like LBJ-and-Company figured back in the 1960s...

Facts Talk and (Democratic plantation-enabling) Bull$hit Walks...

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Not even close, son...

Look at all of the major American Cities that boast a large, impoverished, ghetto or ghetto-like zone, and you'll find Democrats in leadership positions.

In most cases we're talking about multi-generational Democratic control, and they perpetuate the modern-day Black Plantation concept in form and practice.

Tossing idiot Blacks just enough bones and freebies to keep 'em voting Democratic... just like LBJ-and-Company figured back in the 1960s...

Blacks are doing the best they ever have under the Biden economy.

Blacks, women, and minorities thrive when the GOP is not in charge.

They are going to destroy the GoP next year.

 

[struth]

Blacks are doing the best they ever have under the Biden economy.

Blacks, women, and minorities thrive when the GOP is not in charge.

They are going to destroy the GoP next year.

Black and Hispanic unemployment is at a record low​

PUBLISHED FRI, OCT 4 20191:37 PM EDTUPDATED FRI, OCT 4 20192:18 PM EDT

'Black and Hispanic unemployment is at a record low

Remind me again which party was in charge in 2019 when this happened?

OPINION

Inflation
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Black America is suffering disproportionately in Biden’s inflation nation. It's time for a change.​

Bidenomics is breaking the economic back of Black America.

The June report found that Black and Hispanic Americans are seeing higher rates of inflation than the national average. Adjusted for spending levels, the inflation rate for Black Americans was 0.2 percentage point higher than the national average. For Hispanic Americans, it was roughly 0.6 percentage point higher than the national average.


There is reality and then there is your propaganda

 

[Kondor3]

Blacks are doing the best they ever have under the Biden economy.

That's a damned-low bar...

Blacks, women, and minorities thrive when the GOP is not in charge.

Yeah, they're thriving alright...

They are going to destroy the GoP next year.

No... the GOP is going to shoot itself in the foot by running the Orange Traitor again...

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Then why do Republicans keep trying to talk about today's Democrats and slavery?

There is a lot modern republicans choose not to tell young blacks as they try luring blacks into supporting a move back into Jim Crow. First, not all Republicans were for racial equality. The Party had several factions in the beginning. One was the Radical Republicans. The Radical Republicans were for the eradication of slavery. They were not conservatives. Frederick Douglass was a Radical Republican. Lincoln was moderate politically. He opposed the expansion of slavery but did not believe in racial equality.

As the country began splitting up, a great panic started consuming the outgoing Buchanan administration and members of congress. They wanted to keep the union together. They did not want the south to leave. They did not want war. President Buchanan declared secession was a constitutional crisis and then asked Congress to develop a plan to keep the south in the union.4 He wanted Congress to assure the southern states that slavery would be protected once Lincoln took office. Congress offered over fifty different proposals trying to keep the union together. In the end, congress settled for a proposal by Republican Thomas Corwin. It is called the Corwin Amendment, or more accurately, the slavery amendment.

The Corwin Amendment is a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution that has never been adopted, but owing to the absence of a ratification deadline, could still be adopted by the state legislatures. It would shield slavery within the states from the federal constitutional amendment process and from abolition or interference by Congress. Although the Corwin Amendment does not explicitly use the word slavery, it was designed specifically to protect slavery from federal power. The out-going 36th United States Congress proposed the Corwin Amendment on March 2, 1861, shortly before the outbreak of the American Civil War, with the intent of preventing that war and preserving the Union. It passed Congress but was not ratified by the requisite number of state legislatures.

Several Southern states attempted to secede after the 1860 presidential election, eventually forming the Confederate States of America. Several federal legislative measures, including the Corwin Amendment, were proposed during this period in the hope of either reconciling the sections of the United States or avoiding the secession of the border states. Senator William H. Seward and Representative Thomas Corwin, Republicans and allies of President-elect Abraham Lincoln, introduced the Corwin Amendment, which was endorsed by the outgoing president, James Buchanan. Because it was only ratified in a handful of Northern states and Kentucky, the amendment failed to achieve its goal of preventing civil war and preserving the Union. Ultimately, it fell out of favor during the Civil War.

Corwin Amendment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This was proposed by 2 republicans, it's documented fact and it's time republicans stopped posting disingenuous junk. Blacks know the history and the more you think we are stupid enough to fall for your tale and keep trying to tell it, the more we will refuse to become Republicans.

Because lets never forget that dems are the party of slavery and segregation. This is the party that you vote for and that same party that keeps you in bondage and leads your around by your nose.

 

[Lesh]

Because lets never forget that dems are the party of slavery and segregation. This is the party that you vote for and that same party that keeps you in bondage and leads your around by your nose.

Let’s never forget that SOUTHERN CONSERVATIVES were the main beneficiaries and perpetrators of slavery

And conservatives are where most of the racism remains

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Let’s never forget that SOUTHERN CONSERVATIVES were the main beneficiaries and perpetrators of slavery

And conservatives are where most of the racism remains

Not true. Dems are the party of slavery and segregation. Those are facts. Dont even try to whitewash it.

 

[j-mac]

Then why do Republicans keep trying to talk about today's Democrats and slavery?

There is a lot modern republicans choose not to tell young blacks as they try luring blacks into supporting a move back into Jim Crow. First, not all Republicans were for racial equality. The Party had several factions in the beginning. One was the Radical Republicans. The Radical Republicans were for the eradication of slavery. They were not conservatives. Frederick Douglass was a Radical Republican. Lincoln was moderate politically. He opposed the expansion of slavery but did not believe in racial equality.

As the country began splitting up, a great panic started consuming the outgoing Buchanan administration and members of congress. They wanted to keep the union together. They did not want the south to leave. They did not want war. President Buchanan declared secession was a constitutional crisis and then asked Congress to develop a plan to keep the south in the union.4 He wanted Congress to assure the southern states that slavery would be protected once Lincoln took office. Congress offered over fifty different proposals trying to keep the union together. In the end, congress settled for a proposal by Republican Thomas Corwin. It is called the Corwin Amendment, or more accurately, the slavery amendment.

The Corwin Amendment is a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution that has never been adopted, but owing to the absence of a ratification deadline, could still be adopted by the state legislatures. It would shield slavery within the states from the federal constitutional amendment process and from abolition or interference by Congress. Although the Corwin Amendment does not explicitly use the word slavery, it was designed specifically to protect slavery from federal power. The out-going 36th United States Congress proposed the Corwin Amendment on March 2, 1861, shortly before the outbreak of the American Civil War, with the intent of preventing that war and preserving the Union. It passed Congress but was not ratified by the requisite number of state legislatures.

Several Southern states attempted to secede after the 1860 presidential election, eventually forming the Confederate States of America. Several federal legislative measures, including the Corwin Amendment, were proposed during this period in the hope of either reconciling the sections of the United States or avoiding the secession of the border states. Senator William H. Seward and Representative Thomas Corwin, Republicans and allies of President-elect Abraham Lincoln, introduced the Corwin Amendment, which was endorsed by the outgoing president, James Buchanan. Because it was only ratified in a handful of Northern states and Kentucky, the amendment failed to achieve its goal of preventing civil war and preserving the Union. Ultimately, it fell out of favor during the Civil War.

Corwin Amendment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This was proposed by 2 republicans, it's documented fact and it's time republicans stopped posting disingenuous junk. Blacks know the history and the more you think we are stupid enough to fall for your tale and keep trying to tell it, the more we will refuse to become Republicans.

This is today's Democrat legacy....

 

[struth]

Let’s never forget that SOUTHERN CONSERVATIVES were the main beneficiaries and perpetrators of slavery

And conservatives are where most of the racism remains

no they weren't...the Conservatives, were folks that supported Lincoln, who was a Conservative.

You confuse Conservative (the proper noun, that describes a political ideology in the United States) with conservative, which is a adjective.

Conservatives, were the folks that formed the GOP, which was an anti-slavery party. Conservatism princpals in Amercan pollitics believes in Free Markets, Constitutional government, individual liberty, and limited Govt. The Demaklan, which calls themselves Liberals, believe in the opposite, and supported oppressive, centralized power, controlled markets (slavery)

 

[Lesh]

no they weren't...the Conservatives, were folks that supported Lincoln, who was a Conservative.

You confuse Conservative (the proper noun, that describes a political ideology in the United States) with conservative, which is a adjective.

Conservatives, were the folks that formed the GOP, which was an anti-slavery party. Conservatism princpals in Amercan pollitics believes in Free Markets, Constitutional government, individual liberty, and limited Govt. The Demaklan, which calls themselves Liberals, believe in the opposite, and supported oppressive, centralized power, controlled markets (slavery)

Just make it up as you go.

Lincoln was no conservative

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Then why do Republicans keep trying to talk about today's Democrats and slavery?

There is a lot modern republicans choose not to tell young blacks as they try luring blacks into supporting a move back into Jim Crow. First, not all Republicans were for racial equality. The Party had several factions in the beginning. One was the Radical Republicans. The Radical Republicans were for the eradication of slavery. They were not conservatives. Frederick Douglass was a Radical Republican. Lincoln was moderate politically. He opposed the expansion of slavery but did not believe in racial equality.

As the country began splitting up, a great panic started consuming the outgoing Buchanan administration and members of congress. They wanted to keep the union together. They did not want the south to leave. They did not want war. President Buchanan declared secession was a constitutional crisis and then asked Congress to develop a plan to keep the south in the union.4 He wanted Congress to assure the southern states that slavery would be protected once Lincoln took office. Congress offered over fifty different proposals trying to keep the union together. In the end, congress settled for a proposal by Republican Thomas Corwin. It is called the Corwin Amendment, or more accurately, the slavery amendment.

The Corwin Amendment is a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution that has never been adopted, but owing to the absence of a ratification deadline, could still be adopted by the state legislatures. It would shield slavery within the states from the federal constitutional amendment process and from abolition or interference by Congress. Although the Corwin Amendment does not explicitly use the word slavery, it was designed specifically to protect slavery from federal power. The out-going 36th United States Congress proposed the Corwin Amendment on March 2, 1861, shortly before the outbreak of the American Civil War, with the intent of preventing that war and preserving the Union. It passed Congress but was not ratified by the requisite number of state legislatures.

Several Southern states attempted to secede after the 1860 presidential election, eventually forming the Confederate States of America. Several federal legislative measures, including the Corwin Amendment, were proposed during this period in the hope of either reconciling the sections of the United States or avoiding the secession of the border states. Senator William H. Seward and Representative Thomas Corwin, Republicans and allies of President-elect Abraham Lincoln, introduced the Corwin Amendment, which was endorsed by the outgoing president, James Buchanan. Because it was only ratified in a handful of Northern states and Kentucky, the amendment failed to achieve its goal of preventing civil war and preserving the Union. Ultimately, it fell out of favor during the Civil War.

Corwin Amendment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This was proposed by 2 republicans, it's documented fact and it's time republicans stopped posting disingenuous junk. Blacks know the history and the more you think we are stupid enough to fall for your tale and keep trying to tell it, the more we will refuse to become Republicans.

One thing that nevr gets mentioned is the extreme rights non partisan approach to free speech.
Is there any other political party that would fight so hard to protect the statues of former slavers that modern republicans find so distasteful ?

 

[struth]

Just make it up as you go.

Lincoln was no conservative

hahah i am making nothing up...these are well defined terms in US Politics. Lincoln was a Conservative. He literally was one of founders of the GOP. His Conservatism is what put him at odds with the Demaklan and why you all went to war when he won election

 

[struth]

One thing that nevr gets mentioned is the extreme rights non partisan approach to free speech.
Is there any other political party that would fight so hard to protect the statues of former slavers that modern republicans find so distasteful ?

One thing that really gets lost in all the riots and monument destruction a few years ago, was Trump was right...first the demklan came after Lee, using their Civil War as justification for the mobs, but then quickly went on to try and erase American history...going after monuments to Lincoln Teddy Roosevelt and Frederick Douglas.

Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt​

Police declared a riot after windows in downtown buildings were smashed.

Portland protesters topple statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt

Police declared a riot after windows in downtown buildings were smashed.

www.nbcnews.com

Frederick Douglass: Historic US black activist's statue toppled​

Frederick Douglass: Historic US black activist's statue toppled

Activists say the incident may have been in retaliation for recent attacks on slavery-linked monuments.

www.bbc.com

 

[Kondor3]

One thing that nevr gets mentioned is the extreme rights non partisan approach to free speech.
Is there any other political party that would fight so hard to protect the statues of former slavers that modern republicans find so distasteful ?

White Southerners (and vast numbers of White Northerners) work hard to protect memorials to Confederate generals because of their Healing Power amongst Whites.

Respect for wayward and wrong-thinking brethren who fought hard and then lost is an American tradition with strong roots in English and other Western European history.

One can see the same rationale and the same emotions at-work in the United Kingdom as one observes the honors bestowed upon both Royalists and Parliamentarians.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

One thing that really gets lost in all the riots and monument destruction a few years ago, was Trump was right...first the demklan came after Lee, using their Civil War as justification for the mobs, but then quickly went on to try and erase American history...going after monuments to Lincoln Teddy Roosevelt and Frederick Douglas.

Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt​

Police declared a riot after windows in downtown buildings were smashed.

Portland protesters topple statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt

Police declared a riot after windows in downtown buildings were smashed.

www.nbcnews.com

Frederick Douglass: Historic US black activist's statue toppled​

Frederick Douglass: Historic US black activist's statue toppled

Activists say the incident may have been in retaliation for recent attacks on slavery-linked monuments.

www.bbc.com

Why are Dems attacking tthe statues of their heroes ?