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    I have learned, up to now... that nothing earned here is really anything that will be after. In my life I have learned that the main purpose is to get past the finish.


    I'm sure I'm not the only 1..who has or who is or who might be.. who also feels or has felt or might feel this way, also.
     
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    so... what is life again?

    Only human life? Only lives that can pay for rent? Or pay for daily requirements of payments? Sometimes a person cannot even have a cup of water if not having a dollar he or she can give in exchange for....

    In other words, sometimes a person might be able to get a free cup of water. but this is not the rule of the system and paradigm we live in at this moment.
     
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    that has been the uninterrupted history and pursuit of christianity since the 4th century, the corrupt religion you attest to. what's your point ...
     
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    gran·deur

    grandeur (n.)
    c. 1500, "loftiness, height," from Middle French grandeur, from Old French grandor "size, height, extent, magnitude; greatness" (12c.), from grand "great" (see grand (adj.)). "Being a word of late adoption, it retains the Fr. form -eur of the suffix." Extended sense of "majesty, stateliness" in English is first recorded 1660s.


    splendor and impressiveness, especially of appearance or style.

    magnificence (n.)

    mid-14c., "great-mindedness, courage," from Old French magnificence "splendor, nobility, grandeur," from Latin magnificentia "splendor, munificence," from stem of magnificus "great, elevated, noble, eminent," also "splendid, rich, fine, costly," literally "doing great deeds," from magnus "great" (from PIE root *meg- "great") + combining form of facere "to make, to do" (from PIE root *dhe- "to set, put").

    Meaning "greatness of appearance or character, grandeur, glory" in English is from late 14c. That of "beauty, splendor, wealth" is 15c. As one of the Aristotelian and scholastic virtues, it translates Greek megaloprepeia "liberality of expenditure combined with good taste."


    the quality of being magnificent.

    synonyms:splendor, resplendence, grandeur, greatness,



    ideas of grandeur

    Definition of megalomania
    1 : a mania (see mania sense 2a) for great or grandiose performance an outburst of wildly extravagant commercial megalomania — The Times Literary Supplement (London)
    2 : a delusional mental illness that is marked by feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur


    ideas of magnificence



    I feel like a king... I feel great!

    Ideas of Grandeur...


    I act like a King! I command like a King...


    Ideas of Magnificence


    Had I been left to feel 'grand' about myself I might have learned to be polite and courteous.. But because their ideas of Magnificence said I was being too grandeur, I had to act like a king and command like a king.


    Ideas of Magnificence...

    'You, are not noble... I know what noble is.. and you are not.. so please take off your top hat and stop portraying yourself as if you were some grandeur spirit'....


    He who is splendid with himself is grandeur.. He who is magnificence knows 'value'.


    He who says a shab is of 'value' is grandiose with his words. He who says a home is less costly is magnificent in his knowledge.


    He who says another is grandiose in spirit is grandiose. He who says another is unworthy is magnificent in spirit. He who says another is magnificent in spirit says he knows its value in comparison to other magnificence. He who says another spirit is grandiose says he knows what Grandeur is...


    If Grandeur is 'height' and Magnificence is portrayal, which is more fitting for persons exhibiting mental disclarity?

    He has 'high' thoughts but not 'high' portrayals? Or he has magnificent thoughts and high thoughts but only to his own height and portrayal?

    In other words, what is that person's height and what is that person's magnificence?

    An outside measurement or an inward measurement?


    If 2 youths, without parents, were been looked upon.. and 1 truly had a very important person as a father but only that 1 knew and also the evaluator.. but if both were without fathers, being alone.. and if they both were being looked upon for ideas of grandeur, and if both displayed very similar characters and thoughts and speeches and behaviors and responses... would the one who, without the parent who was important, be deemed the one as the one with ideas of grandeur whereas the other, who truly did have a father who was very important, displaying the same qualities, not be deemed as one having ideas of grandeur?

    And would this evaluation be acceptable enough in the Court of Law for any reason? And would this evaluation be somewhat of that person's 'life certificate' of what he once was?
     
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    A part of the 1000 years, or 1 Day with The LORD.

    The LORD is not Christ Messiah. The Day of Christ is The Day of Christ Messiah.. They are 2 separate distinct days.

    The day of The LORD is as 1000 years. The Day of Christ is not that Day.

    A part of the 1000 years of The LORD could be mental disclarities.
    And a part of that 1000 years could also be remedies only HE provides for those mental disclarities.

    Even the hopes and ways previously embraced because of their new found life with Christ Messiah might not apply. A transforming of wrongs to rights is probably much more in line with Truth and The Truth...

    So still being in line with Truth and in The Truth, a person can still be assured that their own personal walk and life with Them should be as it was but only with clearer and Truer Truths to and with their life they are sharing with Them and Them with the believer.

    And this is not a demotion but actually a bonus package deal for every believer...

    An increasing of the 'good' and a 'decreasing' of the 'bad'... Even in the lives of the believers...

    This is the 'fire', i believe that 'utterly' consumes... Not an outwardly 'burning and melting' but an inward one.


    (I)sa(i)ah 1:4-7 "Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

    5Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.

    6From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.

    7Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers."
     
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    Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.


    paradox on words...

    learn .. but while learning to do well....

    seek judgment
    relieve the oppressed
    judge the fatherless
    plead for the widow

    but above these, learn also to do well..



    Strangely The LORD sounds intoxicated....


    Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.

    11To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

    12When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?



    Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.


    I cannot.. away.. with. *hiccup


    Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

    15And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
     
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    Have They learned yet? Have They learned to stop 'giving' to requests with false end notes?

    Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.



    I took it upon myself to pose to Them a parable

    If Thou hast begun a good work, and Thou will see it to the end, even unto The Day of Christ, then why am I still wrecked with nonsense and no- things?


    (J)ames 4:17 "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."



    2 Peter 2:15 "Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;"



    Balaam, an unrighteous prophet
    Bosor, father of Balaam.
    "a burning", father of an Edomite king, also the father of Balaam



    Therefore thou hast forsaken thy people the house of Jacob, because they be replenished from the east, and are soothsayers like the Philistines, and they please themselves in the children of strangers.
     
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    (I)sa(i)ah 1:

    4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters:


    Does the parents not care??

    4 they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.


    [While your children are growing more and more corrupt]:

    7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.


    10 Hear the word of the LORD, [ye] rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of [our] God, ye people of Gomorrah.


    rulers are to parents as children are to Sodom


    11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

    'LAW'...


    Matthew 3:7-10 "But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: 9And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 10And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire."


    17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.


    rather than


    11To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

    12When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

    13Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

    14Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

    15And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.



    2 Chronicles 7:14 "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
     
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    5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices:


    3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone:

    4 and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting...and they had on their heads crowns of gold.


    2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

    3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone:

    8 saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.


    6 round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

    9And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, 10The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.


    7And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
     
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    11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

    12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

    13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

    14 And the four beasts said, Amen



    191. akouó

    akouó: to hear, listen
    Usage: I hear, listen, comprehend by hearing; pass: is heard, reported.


    13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.



    and every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard them saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
     
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