I am disgusted with our party. I pray to god we get fresh blood in 16

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    Bill Bennett knows Newt personally and says he has problems. This gives me pause because I've considered Bennett a respectable man and usually trust his judgment.

    I remember Newt as speaker and thought he did a good job. Problem is Bennett says he knows Newt personally and listed a few characteristics that bother me. I got a sense of some of them but just wrote it off as personality glitches when put on the spot. Bill however says they are part of Newts core. Ie self agrandizing and grandiose ideas beyond the ones we have heard about. He thinks as many here have said that if Newt wins the nomination the election will become about his past.

    How did our party get relegated to such shitty choices? Obama should be so fucking easy to beat yet at every turn its all about the negativity of our party.

    Perry can't debate to save his life. And yes I know were not electing a debater n chief but if he can't sell himself on the stage against Obama the public won't vote for him.

    Pauls foreign policy is nuts.

    Santorum is too extreme for this election cycle. The country doesn't want to go from far left to far right.

    Newt can't outrun his past long enough to talk about current events.

    Bachmann just turns me off personally.

    Huntsman sounds centered but I honestly don't know anything about the man. And if I don't the public at large won't have a clue.

    That leaves Romney, the KING FLIP FLOPPER.


    WTF


    I like Santorum and Bachmanns ideas but it won't fly in this election so WTF is a person to do? Sitting out or writing in a name is a sheer waste because it could lead to another Obama term. He has to go so I guess I just have to bite my tongue and vote for whoever gets the nomination. This is beginning to feel just like 08 and it straight pisses me off.

    I know I'll probably get flamed for this post but I don't care. I don't have a job secure from this shitty economy and I desperately need change.
     
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    We need to start thinking about our country instead of shit holes like the middle east and Africa. Ron paul will cut and is the most conserative person running. He is the only serious person running that WILL cut. Not newt, Romney, ect.

    We can't keep fighting wars to save the middle east from its self. It is not our business!
     
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    Paul is not an option Matthew. He is just as fucked up as our other candidates. He will retire soon after this election and drift into history with his eyebrows. Thank god.

    We need new blood. Screw these old lifers.
     
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    Paul Ryan may be just the lunatic you're looking for...
     
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    Yes, along with Rubio and a few governors.
     
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    Newt and Paul are hardly the only choices.
     
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    The beginning of the end was when McCain picked Palin. It was downhill from there.
     
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    Get rid of Rush and Fox and all the charlatans and try doing something for the non rich. After Health Care gets going the GOP will come down from the Raygun high and get real...Hopefully they won't fuq up the economy every 3 months like the deficit limit crap...smaller giv't and cutting waste would be good if they MEANT it. You need the DEMAND, good luck.
     
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    I doubt you have spent an honest 10 minutes looking into Ron Paul.

    Next I'd like to point out that I called it, it took about 1 month or you to catch up to what I was telling you about Newt... Of course you will just react saying something near incoherent and how Paul sucks, but in the end I also doubt you spent an honest 10 minutes looking into any candidate you have supported so far.

    Gramps, YOU are the problem. The Political infants that invest no amount meaningful effort despite all the answers being at your finger tips. It’s posers like you in the Republican party that help Neocons Big Government Progressives like Newt, or mindless drones, vapid of the basics on the most simple issues that this country faces like Cain rise to the top… Only to start sob story threads wallowing in your own self induced regurgitated cycle of dumping all your hopes in a candidate you knew nothing about.

    I have supported Paul for 4+ years, when I hear you talk about him it’s clear you lack the ability to even comprehend what he talks about because you honestly don’t want to understand it. You make the choice to be irrelevant and uneducated on the issues.

    I honestly think you are a good person… but when it comes to politics you care more about the “he said she said bullshit” than giving real answers to real problems more than a glance. There is no doubt in my mind I know more about Cain and more about Newt several times over than yourself…

    I hope you learn from your mistakes rather than repeat them. I hope you can swallow your pride and disarm you defensive attitude to anyone that has more to say than “Fuck Obama!!!”
     
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    And for the Record, Newt is the king flip flopper, as someone who actually looks up candidates it's MUCH harder to find Mitt flip flopping than Newt... I could make a short movie of Newt flip flops in this thread if you like, you prolly couldn't get 5 min of Mitt's flip flops.
     

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