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Translation: "Blah, blah, blah, blah, the unaudited data could be audited by little elves at the North Pole, blah, blah, blah, and if the unaudited data is piled all on top of each other five times and shaken not stirred, it becomes good blah blah blah..."The methodology is is right on the BLS website, so there is no need to go to a DOL and ask some admin how BLS collects data.[
All 3 are facts of life but you won't go to a real person to validate those facts.
You must be an avid reader of The Wall Street Journal and Forbes.
Fact: you said they survey companies to get part-timer data
Fact: BLS says that is from the household survey
From above facts we can conclude you really don't know much about this subject, and the constant suggesting to drive to a local DoL office don't change that.
I already did, you just ignore it.Once again, point out the post where I state the BLS is dishonest.
Using unaudited data does not make an agency dishonest.
It simply means no analysis or prediction made upon that input can be trusted to ensure the future prosperity of a nation.
You have no idea whether their data is audited and you know it, remember you're the one confused about CES vs CPS so you can't expect anyone to believe you have some intimate knowledge of BLS statistical auditing procedures.
You're the only one talking about predictions in here, I'm taking about historical part-time worker data that say is phony but in 10 pages of a thread can't prove.
Listen...moron...(Oops! ad hominem)The methodology is is right on the BLS website, so there is no need to go to a DOL and ask some admin how BLS collects data.[
All 3 are facts of life but you won't go to a real person to validate those facts.
You must be an avid reader of The Wall Street Journal and Forbes.
Fact: you said they survey companies to get part-timer data
Fact: BLS says that is from the household survey
From above facts we can conclude you really don't know much about this subject, and the constant suggesting to drive to a local DoL office don't change that.
I already did, you just ignore it.Once again, point out the post where I state the BLS is dishonest.
Using unaudited data does not make an agency dishonest.
It simply means no analysis or prediction made upon that input can be trusted to ensure the future prosperity of a nation.
You have no idea whether their data is audited and you know it, remember you're the one confused about CES vs CPS so you can't expect anyone to believe you have some intimate knowledge of BLS statistical auditing procedures.
You're the only one talking about predictions in here, I'm taking about historical part-time worker data that say is phony but in 10 pages of a thread can't prove.
One might say that lying is the lingua franca on Wall Street, from what I have heard.I worked on Wall Street for 16 years for Banks and Brokerage Firms and they lie through their teeth on their web sites and the material they send you.
I met government auditors who unofficially authorized the creation of database audit trails to cover up deeds that should not be done.
I also read the same publications you read...the ones that keep telling us everything is great.
You just failed your Narcissist, Sociopath, Neo-Conservative Exam.One might say that lying is the lingua franca on Wall Street, from what I have heard.I worked on Wall Street for 16 years for Banks and Brokerage Firms and they lie through their teeth on their web sites and the material they send you.
I met government auditors who unofficially authorized the creation of database audit trails to cover up deeds that should not be done.
I also read the same publications you read...the ones that keep telling us everything is great.
We'll file this right next to your "I know lots of people with advanced degrees" in terms of relevance here... zero. I don't read publications telling us everything is great (it isn't) although it is pretty amusing watching you alternate between bragging about your CV and inventing aspects of my life to attack. There is a big difference between thinking everyting is great (I don't) and being skeptical about your claims that BLS data is phony.Listen...moron...(Oops! ad hominem)
I worked on Wall Street for 16 years for Banks and Brokerage Firms and they lie through their teeth on their web sites and the material they send you.
I met government auditors who unofficially authorized the creation of database audit trails to cover up deeds that should not be done.
I also read the same publications you read...the ones that keep telling us everything is great.
You mean I dont make a good money grubbing chicken hawk?You just failed your Narcissist, Sociopath, Neo-Conservative Exam.
We'll file this right next to your "I know lots of people with advanced degrees" in terms of relevance here... zero. I don't read publications telling us everything is great (it isn't) although it is pretty amusing watching you alternate between bragging about your CV and inventing aspects of my life to attack. There is a big difference between thinking everyting is great (I don't) and being skeptical about your claims that BLS data is phony.Listen...moron...(Oops! ad hominem)
I worked on Wall Street for 16 years for Banks and Brokerage Firms and they lie through their teeth on their web sites and the material they send you.
I met government auditors who unofficially authorized the creation of database audit trails to cover up deeds that should not be done.
I also read the same publications you read...the ones that keep telling us everything is great.
Maybe later we can have a thread about how glorious your career was, how smart your friends are, etc. but for now let's talk the subject on hand, BLS data on part timers.
So far your "proof" (aside from personal accolades) about phony data is being wrong about the data's source and having unfounded assumptions about auditing procedures. Do you actually have anything concrete here?
We know it is because the result of the input almost always results in upping the Business Visa limit and severely underreporting the number of those earning minimum wage and/or being purposely employed less than 35 hours a week to avoid providing health benefits.
I presume you don't leave your house too often or when you do you're hobnobbing at the golf club because you seem to be severing lacking in seeing what's right in front of your face when you go shopping.
Of course, you MAY be shopping on Miracle Mile.
Nope, it has already been demonstrated in this thread many times that the data cited for part-timers comes from the Household Survey, so what businesses report isn't relevant. Your ability to soldier on leaning on an assumption that has been proven false warrants applause for perspicacity.We know it is because the result of the input almost always results in upping the Business Visa limit and severely underreporting the number of those earning minimum wage and/or being purposely employed less than 35 hours a week to avoid providing health benefits.
You assume wrong in your latest feeble attempt to portray aspects of my life negatively. I've never been to a golf club in my life, except for some software testing of GPS tracking devices over ten years ago.I presume you don't leave your house too often or when you do you're hobnobbing at the golf club because you seem to be severing lacking in seeing what's right in front of your face when you go shopping. Of course, you MAY be shopping on Miracle Mile
I deal with tons of people; I am fascinated with people.We know it is because the result of the input almost always results in upping the Business Visa limit and severely underreporting the number of those earning minimum wage and/or being purposely employed less than 35 hours a week to avoid providing health benefits.
I presume you don't leave your house too often or when you do you're hobnobbing at the golf club because you seem to be severing lacking in seeing what's right in front of your face when you go shopping.
Of course, you MAY be shopping on Miracle Mile.
You swing a deft scalpel, friend, a quick sharp scalpel.
You just don't get it.Nope, it has already been demonstrated in this thread many times that the data cited for part-timers comes from the Household Survey, so what businesses report isn't relevant. Your ability to soldier on leaning on an assumption that has been proven false warrants applause for perspicacity.We know it is because the result of the input almost always results in upping the Business Visa limit and severely underreporting the number of those earning minimum wage and/or being purposely employed less than 35 hours a week to avoid providing health benefits.
You assume wrong in your latest feeble attempt to portray aspects of my life negatively. I've never been to a golf club in my life, except for some software testing of GPS tracking devices over ten years ago.I presume you don't leave your house too often or when you do you're hobnobbing at the golf club because you seem to be severing lacking in seeing what's right in front of your face when you go shopping. Of course, you MAY be shopping on Miracle Mile
Either way personal perceptions of shopping habits don't make BLS data on part time workers phony, but we'll add that to your ever growing list of flailing reasons why it could be and continue to hope that at some point you've provide actual evidence to support your claim instead of conjecture and needling at aspect of my personal life.
Don't lose sight of the fact that YOU resorted to ad hominems WAY before I became in any way subjective.Nope, it has already been demonstrated in this thread many times that the data cited for part-timers comes from the Household Survey, so what businesses report isn't relevant. Your ability to soldier on leaning on an assumption that has been proven false warrants applause for perspicacity.We know it is because the result of the input almost always results in upping the Business Visa limit and severely underreporting the number of those earning minimum wage and/or being purposely employed less than 35 hours a week to avoid providing health benefits.
You assume wrong in your latest feeble attempt to portray aspects of my life negatively. I've never been to a golf club in my life, except for some software testing of GPS tracking devices over ten years ago.I presume you don't leave your house too often or when you do you're hobnobbing at the golf club because you seem to be severing lacking in seeing what's right in front of your face when you go shopping. Of course, you MAY be shopping on Miracle Mile
Either way personal perceptions of shopping habits don't make BLS data on part time workers phony, but we'll add that to your ever growing list of flailing reasons why it could be and continue to hope that at some point you've provide actual evidence to support your claim instead of conjecture and needling at aspect of my personal life.
Okay wait, does this mean you are conceding you were wrong about the part-timer data coming from the establishment survey?You just don't get it.
Are the household surveys audited?
I couldn't care less how subjective you are, if anything it is funny watching someone stuck in a poor argument position desperately attempting to make it about me by making claims about me going to golf clubs (hah hah wtf) how my personal finances are managed, what publications send me stuff, whether I think everything is fine you just look worse because you've been wrong every time.Don't lose sight of the fact that YOU resorted to ad hominems WAY before I became in any way subjective.
Once again, no one said phony data.Okay wait, does this mean you are conceding you were wrong about the part-timer data coming from the establishment survey?You just don't get it.
Are the household surveys audited?
Regarding the household numbers, I have no idea what the auditing process of BLS is but not knowing sure wouldn't make me declare as fact that the numbers are phony because they aren't audited. Do you know that they aren't audited? Given your confusion CPS vs. CES I doubt you know much at all on how BLS manages their processes.
I couldn't care less how subjective you are, if anything it is funny watching someone stuck in a poor argument position desperately attempting to make it about me by making claims about me going to golf clubs (hah hah wtf) how my personal finances are managed, what publications send me stuff, whether I think everything is fine you just look worse because you've been wrong every time.Don't lose sight of the fact that YOU resorted to ad hominems WAY before I became in any way subjective.
If you're trying to bolster your claim about phony data by attacking me it has proven as useless as the repeated bragging about your friends education levels.
So, where is that concrete proof that BLS data is phony?
Ooops, short memory =Once again, no one said phony data.
As an ex-software developer and non-Indian Business Visa, I couldn't care any less about the what the BLS has to say about anything. Their phony data is fed to them by the very same small to large size entities that want the cheapest labor possible.
Not that you have any idea whether it is audited, so you're basing your argument on an assumption that you have used as fact about a dozen times now.Unaudited data is NOT to be used to determine the fiscal and economic policies of a nation.
Trying to determine how far out to buy puts.
It's not audited.Ooops, short memory =Once again, no one said phony data.
As an ex-software developer and non-Indian Business Visa, I couldn't care any less about the what the BLS has to say about anything. Their phony data is fed to them by the very same small to large size entities that want the cheapest labor possible.
Not that you have any idea whether it is audited, so you're basing your argument on an assumption that you have used as fact about a dozen times now.Unaudited data is NOT to be used to determine the fiscal and economic policies of a nation.
Watch the short term rates.
If you have to ask they are not for you. It is the right to sell at a set price by a certain date.What the hell is a put?
Stock Market Crash - History of the Stock Market Crash of 1929
Buying on Margin
When someone did not have the money to pay the full price of stocks, they could buy stocks "on margin." Buying stocks on margin means that the buyer would put down some of his own money, but the rest he would borrow from a broker. In the 1920s, the buyer only had to put down 10 to 20 percent of his own money and thus borrowed 80 to 90 percent of the cost of the stock.
Buying on margin could be very risky. If the price of stock fell lower than the loan amount, the broker would likely issue a "margin call," which means that the buyer must come up with the cash to pay back his loan immediately.
In the 1920s, many speculators (people who hoped to make a lot of money on the stock market) bought stocks on margin. Confident in what seemed a never-ending rise in prices, many of these speculators neglected to seriously consider the risk they were taking.
Signs of Trouble
By early 1929, people across the United States were scrambling to get into the stock market. The profits seemed so assured that even many companies placed money in the stock market. And even more problematically, some banks placed customers' money in the stock market (without their knowledge). With the stock market prices upward bound, everything seemed wonderful. When the great crash hit in October, these people were taken by surprise. However, there had been warning signs.
On March 25, 1929, the stock market suffered a mini-crash. It was a prelude of what was to come. As prices began to drop, panic struck across the country as margin calls were issued. When banker Charles Mitchell made an announcement that his bank would keep lending, his reassurance stopped the panic. Although Mitchell and others tried the tactic of reassurance again in October, it did not stop the big crash.
By the spring of 1929, there were additional signs that the economy might be headed for a serious setback. Steel production went down; house construction slowed; and car sales waned.
At this time, there were also a few reputable people warning of an impending, major crash; however, as month after month went by without one, those that advised caution were labeled pessimists and ignored.
