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That was my point.Phaedrus said:You are arguing potential, and using ends based logic. Can you deny she would love her child the little time she was with it? Can you deny even if she had died in child birth she loved the child? Is not love worth more than anything else in this world? Am I being overly romantic? Regardless of whether she had the child or not, there are plenty of children who do not even have this. Regardless of poverty and situation, this child is far better off than those poor children. Certainley there is a burden implied, but life is a burden, and it's your choice to shoulder it or not. Would you deny the child care? Would you deny the Mother care? Would you deny anybody care?
Don't you dare bring up mercantilism, there is room.
God already made that discision for her. She was past being able to concieve of her own!! She had to seek out medical and scientific help so the descision was I feel very selfish.. This for her and her alone not the child that she will never see to full adulthood let alone grandchildren from the child.. :baby: :baby: :baby:Phaedrus said:I'm not saying she wasn't irresponsible, simply that you have no right to say she shouldn't have child.
Phaedrus said:Please read before posting.
Phaedrus said:My beliefs are no more valid than anybody else's. If my tone gets more annoyed during this line of posts, it is simply because people are trying to deny her the natural rights and freedoms granted to her under the Constitution.
People do not seem to be reading what I say, or what others say, and are simply stating their opinion. I believe in Hegelian synthesis in terms of rational thought, If you actually pay attention to what another person is saying, you might learn something.
That said, I do realize the arrogance in my last post, and apologize. As I said, my opinion is no more valid than anybody else's.
nukeman said:God already made that discision for her. She was past being able to concieve of her own!! She had to seek out medical and scientific help so the descision was I feel very selfish.. This for her and her alone not the child that she will never see to full adulthood let alone grandchildren from the child.. :baby: :baby: :baby:
Phaedrus said:people are trying to deny her the natural rights and freedoms granted to her under the Constitution.
Dr Grump said:She has no rights under the Constitution...she's English...
jillian said:I wonder what the Magna Carta says on the subject? :happy2:
roomy said:I accept your apology, now run along and kiss someone elses ass for some points.
Hobbit said:...to have kids?
No matter what your answer is, I think we can all agree that 63 is too old. It's not like it was an accident, either. This woman was undergoing fertility treatment.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/05/04/britain.mother.reut/index.html
Think about this poor kid. This mom will be...EIGHTY-FRICKIN'-TWO when the kid graduates from high school. Can you imagine being sixteen and having to help change your mom's diapers. This poor child may have to put his mom in a home before he even gets married, and may grow up wondering why his friends never want to play shuffleboard and canasta. It is just me or is this just a really stupid idea?
Phaedrus said:I've spent several days wondering how to respond to this......