CWayne
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That what Biden did is anything close to what Trump did. In every one of these conversations, the implication is that Trump abuse his power for personal gain, i.e., he wanted dirt on a political opponent. That is clearly projected speculation because none of that can be inferred from the conversation.That is incorrect. Biden has actually admitted what he did. Take it as a confession if will. Biden said there was no backing from the US government. I was implicit in his threat that he was leaving inside of six hours and if he did not get what he wanted, the money was gone.Also, let us not forget that it was ONLY Joe Biden who offered the quid pro quo of $1billion dollars. Regardless of the motivation of Bursima in hiring Hunter (we all know it was going to be a pay to play scheme), the fact of the matter is that Biden is the one who threatened to withhold aid, not other parties in the EU, not the IMF.Well, whether or not he was ever under investigation, at the very least his $50k per month paycheck was being threatened by the Bursima investigation.
Let's ignore the fact that all parties including the EU, the countries within the EU, IMF, ant-corruption activists in Ukraine and the United States all wanted that Ukrainian prosecutor fired due to his unwillingness to actually prosecute corruption.
Biden according to him made that statement, nobody said there was no backing from the U.S. government. Let's also be clear, we were advocating for anti corruption advocates within the Ukraine who wanted this guy gone as well.
Now we're actually twisting the arm of a guy who ran on anti-corruption.
Uh, what exactly are you disagreeing with me on?
However, Joe Biden actually stood to gain by his actions, or more accurately, his family stood to gain.
If a person takes a close look at the corruption laws surrounding elected officials, the language is always very clear. No elected politician can directly benefit from lobbyists. However, their children and extended family members are carefully insulated from that law, even though that too constitutes corruption.
Regardless of the fact that other EU players also wanted this prosecutor fired (why they wanted the prosecutor fired would be an interesting investigation in and of itself) the fact remains that none of them had any personal gain to be made from the removal of this prosecutor. The Bidens did have something to gain from it and Biden used the power and authority of the Executive Branch to enforce his desire.
The entire investigation and impeachment are illegitimate in that the wrong parties are being investigated.