How Many KNOWN Adulterers Have Been Elected or Re-Elected?

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ted kennedy

carry on

 

[WillowTree]

How many people whose adultery was either proven or admitted been elected or re-elected to high public office? In the 2008 Presidential the GOP ran three adulterers, one of whom actually got the nomination, but did not ultimately win the Presidency.

Before you RWers fall all over yourselves to bring up Bill Clinton, his adultery was not proven at the time he was elected or re-elected.

So let's look at some people who got caught with their hands in the cookie jar...

Gary Hart...lost the contest for President and was never heard from again.
John Edwards...dropped out of the race when his indiscretion was discovered
Elliot Spitzer...resigned from Public Office
Anthony Weiner...resigned from Public Office
Bill Clinton...has not run for public office since his adultery was found out

Mark Sanford...did not step down
Larry Craig...did not step down
David Vitter...did not step down
Rudy Guliani...ran for President
Newt Gingrich...keeps running for President
John McCain...re-elected to public office and ran for President

Interesting...

because he looked straight into the camera and lied through his fucking adulterous demoncraptic teeth.

 

[Oldstyle]

Just wondering, truly, how much of a chance Gingrich has...

Just curious why you put such great importance on marital fidelity, Wytch? FDR carried on a long term affair with another woman...did it effect his ability as President? Bill Clinton was a serial cheater...would you consider him a failed President? JFK probably cheated more than Clinton...should "he" never been considered for the Oval Office?

But you bring this up about Gingrich? Rather amusing...

 

[eflatminor]

Presidents with known mistresses include James Garfield (R), Warren Harding (R), Grover Cleveland (D), FDR (D), JFK (D), who had FOUR mistresses, Dwight Eisenhower (R), Lyndon Johnson (D) and of course, Bill Clinton (D).

Was there a point to this exercise?

 

[Oldstyle]

Of course then we have the Presidents who WERE faithful...Jimmy Carter, both of the Bush's and Barack Obama...so is "fidelity" your litmus test for Presidential greatness? I'm asking because none of the above exactly "knocked it out of the park"...you know what I mean?

 

[Ernie S.]

But, but I don't think Gingrich smokes cigars...........

If he does, he likely actually SMOKES, not POKES them.

 

[Ernie S.]

Just wondering, truly, how much of a chance Gingrich has...

Well, if a sexual predator/adulter/liar like Clinton can success, I'd say Gingrich's chances are real good, as long as he follows Clinton's model.

That help assbrain?

I love how you call me an "assbrain" when you post something like "Clinton can success". What a moran...

Clinton did not run for public office once his indiscretions were KNOWN. He was never elected or re-elected as a known adulterer.

His indiscretions were well known even as Governor in Arkansas. Hillary even headed up a group during the 92 campaign to quell rumors and discredit bill's "Bimbo Eruptions". His affairs and and sexual assaults were well known to anyone who actually looked beyond what the MSM was feeding us.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

This thread is great. I especially love the "adulterous teeth".

 

[Douger]

I don't think I know any male under 60 who hasn't fucked around and of those characters....I fucked many of their wives !!!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Apparently democratic men are immune to NATURAL INSTINCTS eh?

This isn't a partisan issue numbskull. It's a human issue. They all either act on it or they don't. Has nothing to do with party affiliations. Unless your stupid I guess.

 

[Zoom]

Hahaha... not proven? hahaha. thanks to the media. Wonder all the other stuff "not proven" because the media is in the bag for democrats.

Damn that Media. Oh and fox is part of that media correct? Arent they the number one rated stations out there?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Hahaha... not proven? hahaha. thanks to the media. Wonder all the other stuff "not proven" because the media is in the bag for democrats.

Damn that Media. Oh and fox is part of that media correct? Arent they the number one rated stations out there?

Was fox even on the air during Clinton?

 

[g5000]

Here we have a classic example of hypocrisy:

Bill Clinton...has not run for public office since his adultery was found out

Mark Sanford...did not step down

Look at that. Just look at it.

As Warrior pointed out, Bill Clinton did not step down. But that is not how you phrased it, is it?

You are a hypocrite.

Not only that, you were so desperate in your partisanship to paint D's as good and R's as bad, you didn't stop to wonder exactly what office Clinton could run for after he was found out. A third term?

Of the two, Mark Sanford could have run for another office. But he didn't.

Hypocrite.


That's the problem people really have. It isn't the affair. It is the hypocrisy. Sanford using the bible to justify why he wouldn't resign. Gingrich running ads about Clinton's affair the week of an election while he himself was having an affair, and then saying his sexual affairs being brought up the week of a primary was "as close to despicable as anything I can imagine".


Hypocrisy is the problem. Walk the walk you talk.

 

[Seawytch]

Here we have a classic example of hypocrisy:

Bill Clinton...has not run for public office since his adultery was found out

Mark Sanford...did not step down

Look at that. Just look at it.

As Warrior pointed out, Bill Clinton did not step down. But that is not how you phrased it, is it?

You are a hypocrite.

Not only that, you were so desperate in your partisanship to paint D's as good and R's as bad, you didn't stop to wonder exactly what office Clinton could run for after he was found out. A third term?

Of the two, Mark Sanford could have run for another office. But he didn't.

Hypocrite.


That's the problem people really have. It isn't the affair. It is the hypocrisy. Sanford using the bible to justify why he wouldn't resign. Gingrich running ads about Clinton's affair the week of an election while he himself was having an affair, and then saying his sexual affairs being brought up the week of a primary was "as close to despicable as anything I can imagine".


Hypocrisy is the problem. Walk the walk you talk.

You're absolutely right, Sanford should not have been on that list. Doesn't change the original question about known adulterers being elected to high office and about whether or not Gingrich, with his history, stands a chance.

According to Gallup, most Americans find adultery "morally wrong".

 

[bayoubill]

Grover Cleveland... prolly one of the best presidents we've ever had...

 

[Seawytch]

Grover Cleveland... prolly one of the best presidents we've ever had...

I don't believe he was accused of adultery, but of having an "out of wedlock" child.

 

[g5000]

According to Gallup, most Americans find adultery "morally wrong".

It is morally wrong. But most Americans also believe in forgiveness.

I do. I can be very forgiving. We are all sinners.

But if a person says they "went to God for forgiveness" but then continues to operate exactly as they did before, then they are even bigger scum than ever, because now they sacriligious.

Penitence is a behavior, not an admission.

 

[Leweman]

Hahaha... not proven? hahaha. thanks to the media. Wonder all the other stuff "not proven" because the media is in the bag for democrats.

Damn that Media. Oh and fox is part of that media correct? Arent they the number one rated stations out there?

Yes but they didn't exist when Clinton ran for office in '92. The point is that a far larger percent of the media is way to the left then is representative of America as a whole. That's if you include talk radio and Fox News. Not sure why they are so agenda driven. They investigate to affirm their beliefs and leave out facts that would prove them wrong. Fox News and conservative radio will do this as well. They have to in order to compete against the other networks. It's a crap system of journalism.

 

[boilermaker55]

It is not the fact they are adulterers, it is their hypocrisy about promoting family values and being so highly indignate towards others and their lifestyle.
And then they become the "sinners." And want full redemtion.
HYPOCRITS

 

[NoNukes]

REP. JOHN YOUNG (D-Tex.):
Colleen Gardner, a former staff secretary to Young, told the New York Times that Young increased her salary after she gave in to his sexual advances. In November, Young, who had run unopposed in the safe Democratic district five consecutive times, w More..as reelected with just 61 percent of the vote. The scandal wouldn't go away, and in 1978 Young was defeated in a Democratic primary runoff.

REP. ALLAN HOWE (D-Utah):
Howe was arrested in Salt Lake City on charges of soliciting two policewomen posing as prostitutes. Howe insisted he was set up and refused to resign. But the Democratic Party distanced itself from his candidacy and he was trounced by his Republican opponent in the November election.

REP. FRED RICHMOND (D-N.Y.):
Richmond was arrested in Washington for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Richmond apologized for his actions, conceding he "made bad judgments involving my private life." In spite of a Democratic primary opponent's attempts to cash in on the headlines, Richmond easily won renomination and reelection. But his career came to an end four years later when, after pleading guilty to possession of marijuana and tax evasion - and amid allegations that he had his staff procure cocaine for him -- he resigned his seat.

REP. JOHN HINSON (D-Miss.):
During his first reelection bid, Hinson stunned everyone by announcing that in 1976 he had been accused of committing an obscene act at a gay haunt in Virginia. Hinson, married and a strong conservative, added that in 1977 he had survived a fire in a gay D.C. movie theater. He was making the disclosure, he said, because he needed to clear his conscience. But he denied he was a homosexual and refused GOP demands that he resign. Hinson won reelection in a three-way race, with 39 percent of the vote. But three months later, he was arrested on charges of attempted oral sodomy in the restroom of a House office building. He resigned his seat on April 13, 1981.

REP. ROBERT BAUMAN (D-Md.):
Bauman, a leading "pro-family" conservative, pleaded innocent to a charge that he committed oral sodomy on a teenage boy in Washington. Married and the father of four, Bauman conceded that he had been an alcoholic but had been seeking treatment. The news came as a shock to voters of the rural, conservative district, and he lost to a Democrat in November.

REP. DAN CRANE (R-Ill.) and REP. GERRY STUDDS (D-Mass.):
The House ethics committee on July 14, 1983, announced that Crane and Studds had sexual relationships with teenage congressional pages -- Crane with a 17-year-old female in 1980, Studds with a 17-year-old male in 1973. Both admitted the charges that same day, and Studds acknowledged he was gay. The committee voted to reprimand the two, but a back-bench Georgia Republican named Newt Gingrich argued that they should be expelled. The full House voted on July 20 instead to censure the two, the first time that ever happened for sexual misconduct. Crane, married and the father of six, was tearful in his apology to the House, while Studds refused to apologize. Crane's conservative district voted him out in 1984, while the voters in Studds's more liberal district were more forgiving. Studds won reelection in 1984 with 56 percent of the vote, and continued to win until he retired in 1996.


SEN. BROCK ADAMS (D-Wash.):
Seattle newspapers reported that Kari Tupper, the daughter of Adams's longtime friends, filed a complaint against the Washington Democrat in July of 1987, charging sexual assault. She claimed she went to Adams's house in March 1987 to get him to end a pattern of harassment, but that he drugged her and assaulted her. Adams denied any sexual assault, saying they only talked about her employment opportunities. Adams continued raising campaign funds and declared for a second term in February of 1992. But two weeks later the Seattle Times reported that eight other women were accusing Adams of sexual molestation over the past 20 years, describing a history of drugging and subsequent rape. Later that day, while still proclaiming his innocence, Adams ended his campaign.

REP. JIM BATES (D-Calif.):
Roll Call quoted former Bates aides in October 1988 saying that the San Diego Democrat made sexual advances toward female staffers. Bates called it a GOP-inspired smear campaign, but also apologized for anything he did that might have seemed inappropriate. The story came too close to Election Day to damage Bates, who won easily. However, the following October the ethics committee sent Bates a "letter of reproval" directing him to make a formal apology to the women who filed the complaint. Although the district was not thought to be hospitable to the GOP, Randy "Duke" Cunningham, a former Navy pilot who was once shot down over North Vietnam, ousted Bates in 1990 by fewer than 2,000 votes.

REP. GUS SAVAGE (D-Ill.):
Savage had fondled a Peace Corps volunteer while on an official visit to Zaire. Savage called the story a lie and blamed it on his political enemies and a racist media. (Savage is black.) In January 1990, the House ethics committee decided that the events did occur, but decided against any disciplinary action because Savage wrote a letter to the woman saying he "never intended to offend" her. Savage was reelected in 1990, but finally ousted in the 1992 primary by Mel Reynolds.

REP. BARNEY FRANK (D-Mass.):
In response to a story in the Washington Times, Frank confirmed that he hired Steve Gobie, a male prostitute, in 1985 to live with and work for him in his D.C. apartment. But Frank, who is gay, said he fired Gobie in 1987 when he learned he was using the apartment to run a prostitution service. The Boston Globe, among others, called on Frank to resign, but he refused. On July 19, 1990, the ethics committee recommended Frank be reprimanded because he "reflected discredit upon the House" by using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie's parking tickets. Attempts to expel or censure Frank failed; instead the House voted 408-18 to reprimand him. The fury in Washington was not shared in Frank's district, where he won reelection in 1990 with 66 percent of the vote, and has won by larger margins ever since.

SEN. DANIEL INOUYE (D-Hawaii):
In October 1992, Republican Senate nominee Rick Reed began running a campaign commercial that included a surreptitiously taped interview with Lenore Kwock, Inouye's hairdresser. Kwock said Inouye had sexually forced himself on her in 1975 and continued a pattern of sexual harassment, even as Kwock continued to cut his hair over the years. Inouye, seeking a sixth term, denied the charges. And Kwock said that by running the commercial, Reed had caused her more pain than Inouye had. Reed was forced to pull the ad, and while many voters took out their anger on the Republican, Inouye was held to 57 percent of the vote - the lowest total of his career. A week later, a female Democratic state legislator announced that she had heard from nine other women who claimed Inouye had sexually harassed them over the past decade. But the women didn't go public with their claims, the local press didn't pursue the story, and the Senate Ethics Committee decided to drop the investigation because the accusers wouldn't participate in an inquiry.


REP MEL REYNOLDS (D-Ill.):
Freshman Reynolds was indicted on Aug. 19, 1994, on charges of having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker and then pressuring her to lie about it. Reynolds, who is black, denied the charges and said the investigation was racially motivated. The GOP belatedly put up a write-in candidate for November, but Reynolds dispatched him in the overwhelmingly Democratic district with little effort. Reynolds was convicted on Aug. 22, 1995 of 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography, was sentenced to five years in prison, and resigned his seat on October

Most of them didn't get elected or re-elected or they stepped down...some on your list did not commit ADULTERY. How many KNOWN adulterers have been elected or re-elected to public office?

Forget it, he is an idiot.