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Are you that fucking stupid that you can't see it? And just WHY do you think Honda and Toyota workers "do just fine"? Because the Corporate Bosses want to keep the UAW out!!
"Toyota pays high wages in part to avoid the UAW," Shaiken said, adding that economists would refer to Toyota's high wages as the "union threat effect," meaning companies pay union-comparable wages to fend off organizing efforts and the risk of a strike.
UAW Losing Pay Edge: Foreign Automakers' Bonuses Boost Wages in U.S. Plants as Detroit Car Companies Struggle: aftermarket News
Those workers making foreign brand cars ought to be kissing the UAW's ass because they wouldn't have it nearly as good if their owners weren't so worried about the UAW.
The GM, Ford and Chrysler issues caused by the UAW is more than competitive wages! Its more on the lines with the proven unsustainable and company killing pension and retiree benefit plans! The UAW uses strong arm tactics to get both! Both where the 10,000 lb gorilla in the room that sunk those companies requiring bailouts!
The UAW doesn't allow the Big Three to adapt to signs of the time! Adapt wages to economic times as an example. Honda, Toyota and Nissan aren't strong armed by these Bolsheviks and have flexibility to run their company the American way (even though they are Japanese companies!)!
I swear the ignorance on this board on unions is unfuckingbelievable.
The United Auto Workers said members voted overwhelmingly to accept concessions with General Motors Corp. as the U.S. automaker moves toward bankruptcy.
UAW members voted 74 percent in favor of the deal that includes giving up cost-of-living raises and performance bonuses and one paid holiday in 2010 and 2011.
The deal also suspends tuition assistance and dental coverage, and reduces prescription drug coverage, the Detroit News reported Friday.
"It was a tough, but necessary vote," Local 599 leader Terry Everman in Flint, Mich., told the newspaper.
UAW approves GM concessions - UPI.com
Yeah, that sure sounds like "strong arm" tactics to me!!
I just love it when someone says.... "we must adapt wages to economic times". I'm sure you would be just peachy if your muti-billion dollar company walked up to you and said, "We need to cut your wages and benefits to survive. Oh by the way, be sure to congratulate the CEO on his generous wage increase the board just approved."
I love it even more when I am told "we need to cut wages to compete in the global market". Ok...fine. Then let's cut all of our wages to $2.00 per hour and reduce our standard of living to that of 3rd world nations.
You and daveman must be cut from the same cloth. He was saying the most wonderfully stupid things against unions in another thread. So I handed his ass to him.
You do realize how Ch 11 works right? Everything goes up in the air. Contracts may be voided and there must be an agreement to avoid liquidation.
I like how you make them seem responsible now that their employer was about to go under! Yet giving their employer the flexibility not to get there or get with the times and opt for individual retirement plans vs unsustainable pension plans!