How Jews became a majority in Jerusalem in 1800's, migration during the Ottoman Empire:

[Roudy]

Nah I have the truth on my side, you antisemetic IslamoNazi liar. Israel has always been the Jewish holy land, and more holy to the Jews than any other faith. The Jews never stopped coming back for 2000 years.

 

[montelatici]

No, you are full of shit. The truth is in the official records.

 

[Roudy]

Yes, the British official records are shaky. And are in no way designed to be an accurate record of population and movements. And they only go back when the British got the lands after 700 years of Ottoman control in the early 1900's. That means the Arabs really had no say. The official Ottoman records clearly show an invitation extended by the ottoman rulers to he Jews to migrate to the Ottoman Empire, of which many of them settled in Jerusalem and elsewhere in the Jewish holy land.

True story, bullshit artist.

 

[montelatici]

Keep posting links to fairy tales. The facts are the facts.

 

[Phoenall]

Ruddy's fairy tales again. Now the facts:

AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE. I.--
THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR. ​

"The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine.

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Not what your religion says


CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000; Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

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Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm

"My religion" confirms that there were a handful of Jews in Palestine prior to 1850 (7,120 in Jerusalem). Compared to the 400,000 Christians and Muslims in Palestine. But, official records are more reliable than something from Testimony Magazine anyway. Plus we have video documentary evidence from 1896:

Even with the facts in front of you, you still LIE. ony 5760 muslims and 3,390 Christians giving a grand total of 9150. Well short of your 400,000 unless you want to do the same multiplier for the Jews and show they were about 350,000 in the whole of Palestine.

Where in that video does it have labels on the people saying Jew, muslim or Christian ?

 

[Phoenall]

You are just full of crap Ruddy. The facts are the facts, none of your braying like a wounded goat can change the facts. The only invasion was a Jew invasion.

So your own link lied did it freddy boy, you know the one that showed 1,500 illegal immigrants who were arab muslims in one month.

 

[Phoenall]

No, you are full of shit. The truth is in the official records.

Which show that the arab muslims illegally migrated to palestine

 

[Roudy]

Keep posting links to fairy tales. The facts are the facts.

Said the paid liar. Ha ha ha.

 

[montelatici]

You only post from propaganda sites that promulgate the Zionist myth. (The big lie) I post links to official documents. Who is the liar?

 

[montelatici]

(2). Immigration. 32. Although different considerations from those relevant to Jewish immigration apply to Arab immigration, special considération need not be given to the latter as, out of a total number of 360,822 immigrants who entered Palestine between 1920 and 1942, only 27,981 or 7.8% were Arabs.

Page 795 A Survey of Palestine.

http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17185

 

[50_RiaL]

Ruddy's fairy tales again. Now the facts:

AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE. I.--
THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR. ​

"The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine.

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

From your link:

"Everywhere great numbers of Jews, whose religion causes them to live, spiritually, largely in the past, began to take an active interest in those passages of their ritual, that dwelt, with constant emphasis, upon the connection of their race with Palestine ...

"Large sums of money were collected in Europe and America, and spent in Palestine, for forwarding the movement. Many looked forward to a steady process of Jewish immigration ... in which, perhaps, the Jewish genius might repeat the services it had rendered to mankind from the same soil long ago.

"[T]here must be satisfaction of that sentiment regarding Palestine--a worthy and ennobling sentiment--which, in increasing degree, animates the Jewries of the world. The aspirations of these fourteen millions of people also have a right to be considered. They ask for the opportunity to establish a 'home' in the land which was the political, and has always been the religious, centre of their race."

This 1920-21 report was put out by the very Brits who in its 1937 Palestine Royal Commission Report calls the land in question, "Jewish Palestine," (p.4) and the Muslims there "occupiers." (p.7)

 

[montelatici]

Well the Europeans really helped the Christians and Muslims of Palestine. Oh wait. They killed or expelled them.

 

[Roudy]

(2). Immigration. 32. Although different considerations from those relevant to Jewish immigration apply to Arab immigration, special considération need not be given to the latter as, out of a total number of 360,822 immigrants who entered Palestine between 1920 and 1942, only 27,981 or 7.8% were Arabs.

Page 795 A Survey of Palestine.

http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17185

1945?! You dickhead! By then the Arabs had fully invaded. We're talking about the 14th century and on, moron.

 

[Roudy]

Ruddy's fairy tales again. Now the facts:

AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE. I.--
THE CONDITION OF PALESTINE AFTER THE WAR. ​

"The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine.

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

From your link:

"Everywhere great numbers of Jews, whose religion causes them to live, spiritually, largely in the past, began to take an active interest in those passages of their ritual, that dwelt, with constant emphasis, upon the connection of their race with Palestine ...

"Large sums of money were collected in Europe and America, and spent in Palestine, for forwarding the movement. Many looked forward to a steady process of Jewish immigration ... in which, perhaps, the Jewish genius might repeat the services it had rendered to mankind from the same soil long ago.

"[T]here must be satisfaction of that sentiment regarding Palestine--a worthy and ennobling sentiment--which, in increasing degree, animates the Jewries of the world. The aspirations of these fourteen millions of people also have a right to be considered. They ask for the opportunity to establish a 'home' in the land which was the political, and has always been the religious, centre of their race."

This 1920-21 report was put out by the very Brits who in its 1937 Palestine Royal Commission Report calls the land in question, "Jewish Palestine," (p.4) and the Muslims there "occupiers." (p.7)

Ha ha ha! Another example of Monte the shameless antisemitic pig mutilating a document to fit his warped bigoted Nazi ideology. I've done the same to his "sources" so many times, I don't even bother clicking on his links any longer.

OINK OINK, MONTE!

 

[Roudy]

Well the Europeans really helped the Christians and Muslims of Palestine. Oh wait. They killed or expelled them.

Why don't slither away, you failed once again. Ha ha ha.

 

[Phoenall]

You only post from propaganda sites that promulgate the Zionist myth. (The big lie) I post links to official documents. Who is the liar?

YOU as we have proven time and time again, which is why you stop using links that are thrown back in your face

 

[Phoenall]

(2). Immigration. 32. Although different considerations from those relevant to Jewish immigration apply to Arab immigration, special considération need not be given to the latter as, out of a total number of 360,822 immigrants who entered Palestine between 1920 and 1942, only 27,981 or 7.8% were Arabs.

Page 795 A Survey of Palestine.

http://www.bjpa.org/Publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17185

Only the ones known about as many were illegal immigrants, and it is a pity that your cherry picked partial and manipulated link was to do with housing as the rest of the paragraph shows

" The number of room units


required to house Arab immigrants has, therefore, been calculated

on the same basis as Jewish immigrants and amounts to 5,660

room units. This figure, however, includes provision for British

police, etc. who are normally accommodated in police barracks,

etc. (vide paragraph 12 of chapter XV). The corrected figure of


the number of rooms required to house immigrants other than

British police, etc. has been estimated as follows : "

795

 

[Phoenall]

Well the Europeans really helped the Christians and Muslims of Palestine. Oh wait. They killed or expelled them.

Did they, then why are they increasing in numbers and still living in Palestine. How many Jews live in gaza, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi, Iraq etc. And did these places expel/murder the Jews that lived there

 

[montelatici]

A/AC 25/6
UNITED NATIONS CONCILIATION COMMISSION FOR PALESTINE FINAL REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS ECONOMIC SURVEY MISSION FOR THE MIDDLE EAST

UNITED NATIONS Lake Success, New York
28 December 1949​

"The Problem The Arab refugees-nearly three-quarters of a million men, women and children-are the symbol of the paramount political issue in the Near East. Their plight is the aftermath of an armed struggle between Arabs and Israelis, a struggle marked by a truce that was broken and an armistice from which a peace settlement has not emerged. Before the hostilities in Palestine these families lived in that section of Palestine on the Israeli side of the present armistice lines. Abandoning their homes and villages, their fields and orange groves, their shops and benches, they fled to nearby Arab lands. Tens of thousands are in temporary. camps ; some are in caves ; the majority have found shelter in Arab towns and villages, in mosques, churches, monasteries, schools and abandoned buildings. "

Appendix IA page 15.

http://domino.un.org/pdfs/AAC256Part1.pdf

 

[Roudy]

A/AC 25/6
UNITED NATIONS CONCILIATION COMMISSION FOR PALESTINE FINAL REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS ECONOMIC SURVEY MISSION FOR THE MIDDLE EAST

UNITED NATIONS Lake Success, New York
28 December 1949​

"The Problem The Arab refugees-nearly three-quarters of a million men, women and children-are the symbol of the paramount political issue in the Near East. Their plight is the aftermath of an armed struggle between Arabs and Israelis, a struggle marked by a truce that was broken and an armistice from which a peace settlement has not emerged. Before the hostilities in Palestine these families lived in that section of Palestine on the Israeli side of the present armistice lines. Abandoning their homes and villages, their fields and orange groves, their shops and benches, they fled to nearby Arab lands. Tens of thousands are in temporary. camps ; some are in caves ; the majority have found shelter in Arab towns and villages, in mosques, churches, monasteries, schools and abandoned buildings. "

Appendix IA page 15.

http://domino.un.org/pdfs/AAC256Part1.pdf

Ya think the Arabs shouldn't have tried to destroy the newly reestablished Jewish state?

And didn't ya, like FORGET or INTENTIONALLY omit what happened afterward, as in Egypt and Jordan ILLEGALLY OCCUPIED the West Bank and Gaza for 20 years, and not one peep out of an Arab or "Palestinian" regarding this so called mythical Palestinian state to be given to these so called Palestinian people? Oh never mind, it's an invented identity. :