How Is Any Of This The Nfl's Problem?

[PredFan]

How does child abuse or spouse abuse become the NFL's problem?

I know it's the way of things these days to blame anyone or anything except the perp, but why wasn't it the casino's fault that the girl got knocked out in the elevator? Why wasn't it the homeowners association at fault because the kid got beaten with a switch?

Both if them worked for the NFL but it didn't happen at work so why is the NFL the bad guys here?

We are insane.

 

[HUGGY]

How does child abuse or spouse abuse become the NFL's problem?

I know it's the way of things these days to blame anyone or anything except the perp, but why wasn't it the casino's fault that the girl got knocked out in the elevator? Why wasn't it the homeowners association at fault because the kid got beaten with a switch?

Both if them worked for the NFL but it didn't happen at work so why is the NFL the bad guys here?

We are insane.

It's Obama's fault !!!!

The NBA opened the doors wide open to the public's blood thirst for someone to cry to.. to get a pound of flesh for the weakness's of American society.

The NBA should have just ignored the bellyaching about Sterling's private statements to his tramp/ho/skank/girlfriend.

Now everyone has a deep pockets to run to when someone's private mistakes go public.

There is no new silver lining to this new way of handling discipline in major sports.

The best thing to put the world on notice to mind it's own damned bidnez and let the powers in place deal with these matters is for Sterling to take some of their newly received billions and sue that skank for abuse of privacy laws. There needs to be a penalty for her conduct.

 

[Nosmo King]

How does child abuse or spouse abuse become the NFL's problem?

I know it's the way of things these days to blame anyone or anything except the perp, but why wasn't it the casino's fault that the girl got knocked out in the elevator? Why wasn't it the homeowners association at fault because the kid got beaten with a switch?

Both if them worked for the NFL but it didn't happen at work so why is the NFL the bad guys here?

We are insane.

It's the way the NFL has handled these incidents, not the incidents themselves. The NFL is clumsily trying to preserve a carefully crafted image. But, as is too often the case, it's not the crime as much as the cover up that proves so damaging. Had Goddel been forthright about who had seen or possessed the video, had Goddell issued more than a two game suspension on Rice after the initial video, the problems of the NFL would be more manageable.

 

[HUGGY]

The commish is addressing the media right this second. My view is on the radio so I can't see if he is crying but it sure sounds like it. What a pussbag.

 

[PredFan]

How does child abuse or spouse abuse become the NFL's problem?

I know it's the way of things these days to blame anyone or anything except the perp, but why wasn't it the casino's fault that the girl got knocked out in the elevator? Why wasn't it the homeowners association at fault because the kid got beaten with a switch?

Both if them worked for the NFL but it didn't happen at work so why is the NFL the bad guys here?

We are insane.

It's the way the NFL has handled these incidents, not the incidents themselves. The NFL is clumsily trying to preserve a carefully crafted image. But, as is too often the case, it's not the crime as much as the cover up that proves so damaging. Had Goddel been forthright about who had seen or possessed the video, had Goddell issued more than a two game suspension on Rice after the initial video, the problems of the NFL would be more manageable.

Why does the NFL have to issue any penalty at all? The NFL isn't responsible, it didn't happen at work, the NFL did penalize him so who's to say what a penalty should be for an incident that didn't happen on NFL property or under circumstances controlled by the NFL?

 

[Nosmo King]

How does child abuse or spouse abuse become the NFL's problem?

I know it's the way of things these days to blame anyone or anything except the perp, but why wasn't it the casino's fault that the girl got knocked out in the elevator? Why wasn't it the homeowners association at fault because the kid got beaten with a switch?

Both if them worked for the NFL but it didn't happen at work so why is the NFL the bad guys here?

We are insane.

It's the way the NFL has handled these incidents, not the incidents themselves. The NFL is clumsily trying to preserve a carefully crafted image. But, as is too often the case, it's not the crime as much as the cover up that proves so damaging. Had Goddel been forthright about who had seen or possessed the video, had Goddell issued more than a two game suspension on Rice after the initial video, the problems of the NFL would be more manageable.

Why does the NFL have to issue any penalty at all? The NFL isn't responsible, it didn't happen at work, the NFL did penalize him so who's to say what a penalty should be for an incident that didn't happen on NFL property or under circumstances controlled by the NFL?

Perception is reality. And the NFL is, like it or not, in the perception business.

What you are suggesting is any NFL player can act however he wants off the field without consequences meted out by the league that pays their salary. Or right up until the sentencing phase of a legal procedure.

All while carefully cultivating an image of hero worship. The league must protect its talent, but not at the expense of their image.

 

[mdk]

If you violate the league's code of conduct that you willingly signed then you have to abide by the rules you agreed to. It's like when people get all bent out of shape when they get fired for violating morality clauses. If you're a gay teacher at a Catholic school and they fire you as a result then don't come crying for my support. You knew what you were signing beforehand.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

NFL players sign a moral clause, as well as "personal conduct" agreements with the NFL.
Therefore the NFL is within contractual rights to suspend etc.
NFL franchises exist at the public's pleasure. If teams do nothing to punish egregious behavior - fans just might lose interest and stop going to games/buying merchandise etc. and the franchise pays dearly for it.
This is why it is the NFL's "concern" and why they insist on conduct clauses.

 

[PredFan]

How does child abuse or spouse abuse become the NFL's problem?

I know it's the way of things these days to blame anyone or anything except the perp, but why wasn't it the casino's fault that the girl got knocked out in the elevator? Why wasn't it the homeowners association at fault because the kid got beaten with a switch?

Both if them worked for the NFL but it didn't happen at work so why is the NFL the bad guys here?

We are insane.

It's the way the NFL has handled these incidents, not the incidents themselves. The NFL is clumsily trying to preserve a carefully crafted image. But, as is too often the case, it's not the crime as much as the cover up that proves so damaging. Had Goddel been forthright about who had seen or possessed the video, had Goddell issued more than a two game suspension on Rice after the initial video, the problems of the NFL would be more manageable.

Why does the NFL have to issue any penalty at all? The NFL isn't responsible, it didn't happen at work, the NFL did penalize him so who's to say what a penalty should be for an incident that didn't happen on NFL property or under circumstances controlled by the NFL?

Perception is reality. And the NFL is, like it or not, in the perception business.

What you are suggesting is any NFL player can act however he wants off the field without consequences meted out by the league that pays their salary. Or right up until the sentencing phase of a legal procedure.

All while carefully cultivating an image of hero worship. The league must protect its talent, but not at the expense of their image.

Yeah unfortunately, there is the hero worship. IMO, that's also a big problem.

 

[PredFan]

If you violate the league's code of conduct that you willingly signed then you have to abide by the rules you agreed to. It's like when people get all bent out of shape when they get fired for violating morality clauses. If you're a gay teacher at a Catholic school and they fire you as a result then don't come crying for my support. You knew what you were signing beforehand.

Agreed BUT, it seems now that the NFL not the player is being put on trial here.

 

[PredFan]

NFL players sign a moral clause, as well as "personal conduct" agreements with the NFL.
Therefore the NFL is within contractual rights to suspend etc.
NFL franchises exist at the public's pleasure. If teams do nothing to punish egregious behavior - fans just might lose interest and stop going to games/buying merchandise etc. and the franchise pays dearly for it.
This is why it is the NFL's "concern" and why they insist on conduct clauses.

I understand why the NFL is acting, but why is the NFL and the commissioner being criticized?

 

[mdk]

If you violate the league's code of conduct that you willingly signed then you have to abide by the rules you agreed to. It's like when people get all bent out of shape when they get fired for violating morality clauses. If you're a gay teacher at a Catholic school and they fire you as a result then don't come crying for my support. You knew what you were signing beforehand.

Agreed BUT, it seems now that the NFL not the player is being put on trial here.

The NFL's handling of the Rice does deserve every bit of criticism it is receiving. I've never been a big Roger G fan and he seems to have stepped in it this time.

 

[PredFan]

If you violate the league's code of conduct that you willingly signed then you have to abide by the rules you agreed to. It's like when people get all bent out of shape when they get fired for violating morality clauses. If you're a gay teacher at a Catholic school and they fire you as a result then don't come crying for my support. You knew what you were signing beforehand.

Agreed BUT, it seems now that the NFL not the player is being put on trial here.

The NFL's handling of the Rice does deserve every bit of criticism it is receiving. I've never been a big Roger G fan and he seems to have stepped in it this time.

Why does the NFL deserve criticism? They didn't hit her. He was punished according to the league code of conduct.

 

[mdk]

If you violate the league's code of conduct that you willingly signed then you have to abide by the rules you agreed to. It's like when people get all bent out of shape when they get fired for violating morality clauses. If you're a gay teacher at a Catholic school and they fire you as a result then don't come crying for my support. You knew what you were signing beforehand.

Agreed BUT, it seems now that the NFL not the player is being put on trial here.

The NFL's handling of the Rice does deserve every bit of criticism it is receiving. I've never been a big Roger G fan and he seems to have stepped in it this time.

Why does the NFL deserve criticism? They didn't hit her. He was punished according to the league code of conduct.

Because I believe the punishment was very slight and I don't believe they didn't see the tape from the elevator back when this story broke. It seems like they wanted to sweep it under the rug and move on as quickly as possible. Rice deserves the vast majority of the criticism but the NFL's leadership gets some as well in my opinion.

 

[gallantwarrior]

How does child abuse or spouse abuse become the NFL's problem?

I know it's the way of things these days to blame anyone or anything except the perp, but why wasn't it the casino's fault that the girl got knocked out in the elevator? Why wasn't it the homeowners association at fault because the kid got beaten with a switch?

Both if them worked for the NFL but it didn't happen at work so why is the NFL the bad guys here?

We are insane.

Because the NFL has lots-n-lots of money to settle the lawsuits filed against their employees.

 

[PredFan]

If you violate the league's code of conduct that you willingly signed then you have to abide by the rules you agreed to. It's like when people get all bent out of shape when they get fired for violating morality clauses. If you're a gay teacher at a Catholic school and they fire you as a result then don't come crying for my support. You knew what you were signing beforehand.

Agreed BUT, it seems now that the NFL not the player is being put on trial here.

The NFL's handling of the Rice does deserve every bit of criticism it is receiving. I've never been a big Roger G fan and he seems to have stepped in it this time.

Why does the NFL deserve criticism? They didn't hit her. He was punished according to the league code of conduct.

Because I believe the punishment was very slight and I don't believe they didn't see the tape from the elevator back when this story broke. It seems like they wanted to sweep it under the rug and move on as quickly as possible. Rice deserves the vast majority of the criticism but the NFL's leadership gets some as well in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I respect your opinion. My opinion is that if the spouse refuses to press charges, and the authorities don't press charges (and why they haven't boggles the mind), then there isn't much the public can or should do. I believe that the NFL itself is innocent here.

 

[Manonthestreet]

The official account shows that Hope Solo extended her shutout record to 73 games as the U.S. women’s national team beat Mexico 4-0 in a friendly Thursday night in Rochester, N.Y. But as the NFL grapples with its domestic-violence crisis, Solo, who has been accused of the same crime, continues to play for her pro soccer team as well as the national team as she awaits trial in November. Solo has pleaded not guilty to two counts of misdemeanor domestic violence in an alleged assault of her half-sister and 17-year-old nephew last summer in Kirkland, Wash. Hope Solo and the domestic violence case no one is talking about - The Washington Post

 

[mdk]

If you violate the league's code of conduct that you willingly signed then you have to abide by the rules you agreed to. It's like when people get all bent out of shape when they get fired for violating morality clauses. If you're a gay teacher at a Catholic school and they fire you as a result then don't come crying for my support. You knew what you were signing beforehand.

Agreed BUT, it seems now that the NFL not the player is being put on trial here.

The NFL's handling of the Rice does deserve every bit of criticism it is receiving. I've never been a big Roger G fan and he seems to have stepped in it this time.

Why does the NFL deserve criticism? They didn't hit her. He was punished according to the league code of conduct.

Because I believe the punishment was very slight and I don't believe they didn't see the tape from the elevator back when this story broke. It seems like they wanted to sweep it under the rug and move on as quickly as possible. Rice deserves the vast majority of the criticism but the NFL's leadership gets some as well in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I respect your opinion. My opinion is that if the spouse refuses to press charges, and the authorities don't press charges (and why they haven't boggles the mind), then there isn't much the public can or should do. I believe that the NFL itself is innocent here.

And I respect yours as well. The public has a tendency to use the power of their voice and their wallets to effect change, sometimes reasonably and sometimes...not so much. With the case of Rice they already felt like his punishment was light and once the video from the casino surfaced it only solidified it. I believe if he would been given a harsher punishment from the start the outrage would not be as much. The leadership handled it poorly and the public is blaming the entire league when it should only be blaming it's leadership. When I stated early that deserve every bit I mean solely the NFL's leadership.

 

[PredFan]

The official account shows that Hope Solo extended her shutout record to 73 games as the U.S. women’s national team beat Mexico 4-0 in a friendly Thursday night in Rochester, N.Y. But as the NFL grapples with its domestic-violence crisis, Solo, who has been accused of the same crime, continues to play for her pro soccer team as well as the national team as she awaits trial in November. Solo has pleaded not guilty to two counts of misdemeanor domestic violence in an alleged assault of her half-sister and 17-year-old nephew last summer in Kirkland, Wash. Hope Solo and the domestic violence case no one is talking about - The Washington Post

I'll ask the exact same question: how is it the fault of the game of soccer or the WNT?

It's also different in that there aren't any videos of it happening so she could be innocent. Apples and oranges here.

 

[PredFan]

Agreed BUT, it seems now that the NFL not the player is being put on trial here.

The NFL's handling of the Rice does deserve every bit of criticism it is receiving. I've never been a big Roger G fan and he seems to have stepped in it this time.

Why does the NFL deserve criticism? They didn't hit her. He was punished according to the league code of conduct.

Because I believe the punishment was very slight and I don't believe they didn't see the tape from the elevator back when this story broke. It seems like they wanted to sweep it under the rug and move on as quickly as possible. Rice deserves the vast majority of the criticism but the NFL's leadership gets some as well in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong, I respect your opinion. My opinion is that if the spouse refuses to press charges, and the authorities don't press charges (and why they haven't boggles the mind), then there isn't much the public can or should do. I believe that the NFL itself is innocent here.

And I respect yours as well. The public has a tendency to use the power of their voice and their wallets to effect change, sometimes reasonably and sometimes...not so much. With the case of Rice they already felt like his punishment was light and once the video from the casino surfaced it only solidified it. I believe if he would been given a harsher punishment from the start the outrage would not be as much. The leadership handled it poorly and the public is blaming the entire league when it should only be blaming it's leadership. When I stated early that deserve every bit I mean solely the NFL's leadership.

I still don't understand how this incident of domestic violence that happened away from the field, and not on company time, is a problem for the NFL to solve. Other than to abide by their own rules and mete out whatever punishment they deem fitting. The media are outraged at the NFL and if you stop and think about it, they aren't obligated to do shit.