How Immigration Reform Would Help the Economy

[Unkotare]

Change and morality seems to be dictated by who makes the most babies, and want to dominate the current culture. Boo.

Well then, your irrational fears should be assuaged by the knowledge that birthrates are falling among Latinas in America, legal and illegal, faster than among any other demographic.

 

[MaryL]

My irrational fears are of the dark and spiders. But, on the other hand, the actual negative effects of illegal immigration are not off set by lower Hispanic birthrates anymore than a less tsunamis drown less people. Illegal immigration is like a tidal wave. The damage it does, who is to say?

 

[Unkotare]

Illegal immigration is a problem. YOU have other problems, clearly.

 

[MaryL]

Sorry. I ...get carried away. But this is a serious issue, and people get hurt. I am one of them. I hope you understand that. Peace.

 

[Windship]

How Immigration Reform Would Help the Economy
By SIMON JOHNSON

But it would be a mistake to limited those admitted – or those allowed legal status and eventual citizenship – to people who already have or are in the process of getting a university-level education. To be clear, under the new system there may well be more low-wage immigrants than high-wage immigrants, but the transition to a point system for allocating green cards is designed to increase the share of people with more education and more scientific education, relative to the situation today and relative to what would otherwise occur.
We should reform immigration along the lines currently suggested and increase the supply of skilled labor in the world. This will both improve our economy and, at least potentially, help ensure the world stays more prosperous and more stable.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2...-help-the-economy/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

Comprehensive Immigration Reform is a lie.
Comp. Immig. Reform allows 12 million “skilled” dishwashers, hamburger flippers, babysitters, domestic, lawn cutters, construction workers, etc to compete with the million of “low skilled” Americans and their children for jobs and the state of the economy has proved that the 12 million illegal aliens that Comp. Immig. Reform would give legal status to have not improved the economy but has contributed to our failing economy. Legal immigration of “high wage earning skilled immigrants” would compete with American college graduates for jobs. We need to stop illegal immigration of low skilled workers and reverse it by depuration and limit high skilled workers that compete with American workers. Keep those families together by deportation and foreign countries need their “high skilled workers” to help their economy so that their “low skilled workers” would not want to immigrate. Good for American and other countries. Any fifth grader can understand this. Comp. Immig. Reform want to bring uneducated people into the country and educate them. A no-braine

r.

Ok...sounds great! Lets start with YOUR job.
moron

 

[Windship]

All sorts of things are good for the economy. Strip mining, uncontrolled co2 output, fracking, depletion of the rainforests, even slavery. Liberals want their cake and eat it to, (on immigration at least). It is frustrating as hell when people that hold to preservation of the environment and respect for all cultures would encourage the devaluation and erosion of their own culture. I don't want diversity anymore. It sounded so nice once , but it's a beautiful lie.

 

[Windship]

All sorts of things are good for the economy. Strip mining, uncontrolled co2 output, fracking, depletion of the rainforests, even slavery. Liberals want their cake and eat it to, (on immigration at least). It is frustrating as hell when people that hold to preservation of the environment and respect for all cultures would encourage the devaluation and erosion of their own culture. I don't want diversity anymore. It sounded so nice once , but it's a beautiful lie.

But it does not devalue or erode our culture. They are here already. They have been for years. It just gives us more of our already existing culture. Everyone just gets a little more of the same. They pave their own road.

Ill bet....everything that I have....tht you dont live anywhere near a mexican community.

 

[Windship]

All sorts of things are good for the economy. Strip mining, uncontrolled co2 output, fracking, depletion of the rainforests, even slavery. Liberals want their cake and eat it to, (on immigration at least). It is frustrating as hell when people that hold to preservation of the environment and respect for all cultures would encourage the devaluation and erosion of their own culture. I don't want diversity anymore. It sounded so nice once , but it's a beautiful lie.

You say that because your family is already here.

Thats right. And yours isnt and shouldnt be.
Mary is 100% correct.

 

[Windship]

I tried to state it in a way you might accept. Beyond that it's on you.

Excuse me? "In a way I might accept"? In what "way" would that be? Curiouser and curiouser. I feel like I fell down a rabbit hole.

You would like to believe you live in a static world. One that ought to be. You are afraid of change as you are set in your ways. Immigration Reform is not going to all of a sudden give you a Mexican neighbor. What it is going to do is give the existing world a legal structure. Your fear that you own little world might change is really fucking things up for a whole lot of other people and you really need to just get over that.

No. You need to worry more about THIS country than the rest of the world.
Let me point out that this country was the strongest when we were "static" as you say.
When we mined our own ore, made our own steel, built our own products and sold them to ourselves and didnt worry too much about the rest of the world.
How many illegals do YOU employ?

 

[Windship]

Excuse me? "In a way I might accept"? In what "way" would that be? Curiouser and curiouser. I feel like I fell down a rabbit hole.

You would like to believe you live in a static world. One that ought to be. You are afraid of change as you are set in your ways. Immigration Reform is not going to all of a sudden give you a Mexican neighbor. What it is going to do is give the existing world a legal structure. Your fear that you own little world might change is really fucking things up for a whole lot of other people and you really need to just get over that.

Static, interesting word... Mexicans charge over the border, barge in, ignore laws immigration or otherwise... move into America, and then sink into their own little static world of "pretending they are still in Mexico". You know, they ignore the laws and the preexisting culture. Oh, they are so "proud" of their culture", stuff like this, it's sickening. I will not accept illegal aliens, and that post is hypocritical and inane, it's typical of the mindset in this country. I am not screwing up anything for Mexicans, it's kinda the other way' round.

Thank you Mary. I could not have said it better.

 

[Windship]

Change and morality seems to be dictated by who makes the most babies, and want to dominate the current culture. Boo.

Well then, your irrational fears should be assuaged by the knowledge that birthrates are falling among Latinas in America, legal and illegal, faster than among any other demographic.

Lmfao.
I wonder...whats your sorce?
Post a friggin sorce. Cause your post is insanely incorrect. lol
Why dont you just go outside and play with the other children?

 

[Unkotare]

Windsock has already grown tiresome.

 

[Unkotare]

Change and morality seems to be dictated by who makes the most babies, and want to dominate the current culture. Boo.

Well then, your irrational fears should be assuaged by the knowledge that birthrates are falling among Latinas in America, legal and illegal, faster than among any other demographic.

Lmfao.
I wonder...whats your sorce?
Post a friggin sorce.

I already educated you on this once. Pay attention, punk.

Demography in Latin America: Autumn of the patriarchs | The Economist

Latin America?s Demographic Divergence | Newgeography.com

Fertility rate plummets in Brazil - The Washington Post

South American Transition to Low Fertility Spreads to Paraguay

U.S. birth rate falls to record low as immigrant women choose to have smaller families as they aspire to join the upper middle class | Mail Online

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/01/health/us-birthrate-dips-especially-for-hispanics.html?_r=0

U.S. Birth Rate Falls to a Record Low; Decline Is Greatest Among Immigrants | Pew Research Center?s Social & Demographic Trends Project



As soon as you pull your foot out of your mouth, feel free to apologize.

 

[Unkotare]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/01/health/us-birthrate-dips-especially-for-hispanics.html?_r=0

U.S. Birth Rate Falls to a Record Low; Decline Is Greatest Among Immigrants | Pew Research Center?s Social & Demographic Trends Project

Hispanic teen birth rate decreased dramatically - CSMonitor.com

Latino Population: Hispanic Birth Rate Hits New Low

U.S. birth rate falls to record low as immigrant women choose to have smaller families as they aspire to join the upper middle class | Mail Online

Birth Rates Declined Among Latinos, the Economy is to Blame | Fox News Latino

 

[Windship]

Illegal immigration is a problem. YOU have other problems, clearly.

Hey! unkarotere or what ever your stupid ass name is...why dont you let that cut under your nose heal?

 

[Windship]

Well then, your irrational fears should be assuaged by the knowledge that birthrates are falling among Latinas in America, legal and illegal, faster than among any other demographic.

Lmfao.
I wonder...whats your sorce?
Post a friggin sorce.

I already educated you on this once. Pay attention, punk.

Demography in Latin America: Autumn of the patriarchs | The Economist

Latin America?s Demographic Divergence | Newgeography.com

Fertility rate plummets in Brazil - The Washington Post

South American Transition to Low Fertility Spreads to Paraguay

U.S. birth rate falls to record low as immigrant women choose to have smaller families as they aspire to join the upper middle class | Mail Online

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/01/health/us-birthrate-dips-especially-for-hispanics.html?_r=0

U.S. Birth Rate Falls to a Record Low; Decline Is Greatest Among Immigrants | Pew Research Center?s Social & Demographic Trends Project



As soon as you pull your foot out of your mouth, feel free to apologize.

Illegals...ILLEGALS!!

Birth rate for illegal immigrants shows rise
The number of U.S.-citizen children born to illegal immigrants has dramatically increased over the past five years from 2.7 million in 2003 to 4 million in 2008, according to a study released Tuesday.

By N.C. Aizenman
The Washington Post
WASHINGTON — The number of U.S.-citizen children born to illegal immigrants has dramatically increased over the past five years from 2.7 million in 2003 to 4 million in 2008, according to a study released Tuesday.

The report by the nonpartisan, Washington-based Pew Hispanic Center also found more than a third of such children were in poverty in 2007, compared with about 18 percent of those born to either legal immigrants or U.S.-born parents. Similarly, one in four U.S.-born children of unauthorized immigrants went without health insurance in 2008, compared with 14 percent of those born to legal immigrants and 8 percent born to U.S.-born parents.

The findings suggest the impact of the unprecedented spike in illegal immigration over the past three decades will continue to be felt for years to come, even as the size of the illegal-immigrant population itself appears to have leveled off since 2006 at about 10.4 million adults and 1.5 million children. Children born on U.S. soil are automatically granted U.S. citizenship.

The study, which analyzed census statistics, found U.S.-born children now account for 73 percent of all children of illegal immigrants. And children of illegal immigrants — including those born overseas — now account for 6.8 percent of elementary- and secondary-school students nationwide and more than one in 10 students in Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada and Texas.

(The Census Bureau does not ask people their immigration status. So the authors used a technique that essentially estimates the number of legal immigrants using other government records such as visas issued, then subtracts that population from the total number of foreign born counted by the census to come up with the number of illegal immigrants.)

The spike in births to unauthorized immigrants is tied largely to their relative youth compared with the general population, while many of the challenges faced by their U.S.-born children can be explained by the parents' far lower rates of education and lack of access to jobs where legal status is stringently checked. According to the study, among unauthorized immigrants ages 25 to 65, nearly a third have less than a ninth-grade education compared with 13 percent of legal immigrants and 2 percent of U.S.-born residents.

The findings also reinforced the unprecedented geographic dispersal of illegal immigrants since 1990 across southeastern states with little prior history of immigration.

Copyright © 2009 The Seattle Times Company

 

[Windship]

The birth rates of the latino has fallen but thet are still popping out the most babies. More than any other race.
Why do you hate the American citizen?

 

[Windship]

Heres more .....


BY JEFFREY S. PASSEL, GRETCHEN LIVINGSTON AND D’VERA COHN

Explaining Why Minority Births Now Outnumber White Births

The nation’s racial and ethnic minority groups—especially Hispanics—are growing more rapidly than the non-Hispanic white population, fueled by both immigration and births. This trend has been taking place for decades, and one result is the Census Bureau’s announcement today that non-Hispanic whites now account for a minority of births in the U.S. for the first time.

The bureau reported that minorities—defined as anyone who is not a single-race non-Hispanic white—made up 50.4% of the nation’s population younger than age 1 on July 1, 2011. Members of minority groups account for 49.7% of children younger than age 5, the bureau said, and for 36.6% of the total population. The findings are included in the bureau’s first set of national population estimates since the 2010 Census, when 49.5% of babies under age 1 were minorities.

Hispanics are more than a quarter of the nation’s youngest residents, according to the new population estimates, accounting for 26.3% of the population younger than age 1. Among other major non-Hispanic groups, the share for whites is 49.6%; for blacks, 13.7%; and for Asians 4.4%.

The long-term result of these changes among younger age groups is that non-Hispanic whites are projected to become a minority of the population (47%) by 2050, according to Pew Research Center population projections. (Census Bureau projections say the change will occur in 2042). Hispanics, already the nation’s largest minority group, are projected to continue to account for most population growth by that year.

Population Patterns

Underlying these changes is the rapid growth of minority groups compared with non-Hispanic whites. Results from the 2010 Census showed that racial and ethnic minorities accounted for 91.7% of the nation’s growth since 2000. Most of that increase from 2000 to 2010—56%—was due to Hispanics. Non-Hispanic whites, though still a majority of the nation’s population, accounted for only 8.3% of its growth over the decade.

Minorities accounted for 93.3% of the nation’s population growth from April 1, 2010 (Census day) to July 1, 2011, according to Census Bureau data released today. Of the total population growth of 2.8 million during that period, the total increase for non-Hispanic whites was only 192,000.

Another important part of the explanation for changing birth patterns is that minority populations are younger than whites, so are more likely to be having and raising children. There are notable differences by race and ethnic group in median age, the age at which half a group is younger and half older. The national median age in 2011 was 37.3.

Non-Hispanic whites have the oldest median age, 42.3, in 2011, according to the population estimates. Hispanics have the youngest, 27.6. Non-Hispanic blacks (32.9) and non-Hispanic Asians (35.9) also are younger than whites.

Related to their younger age profiles, racial and ethnic minority groups also include a higher share of women in the prime child-bearing ages of 20-34. Fully a quarter (25%) of the nation’s Hispanic women are in this age group, according to the population estimates, compared with fewer than one-in-five non-Hispanic whites (19%). For non-Hispanic blacks and Asians, the share is 22%.

Fertility

The changing profile of the nation’s youngest residents also stems from the fact that some groups, especially Hispanics, have higher numbers of children than do non-Hispanic whites. One illustration of this difference is in the “total fertility rate,” or the number of children the average woman is predicted to have in her lifetime, based on current age-specific birth rates. For the U.S. as a whole, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of American Community Survey data, the number is 2.0. (American Community Survey data in this posting come from a Pew Research Center analysis of the 1% sample of the 2010 ACS Integrated Public Use Microdata Series [IPUMS])

Among Hispanics, the total fertility rate is 2.4. For non-Hispanic whites and for non-Hispanic Asians, it is 1.8. Non-Hispanic blacks (2.1) have higher fertility than whites but lower fertility than Hispanics.

Immigration is an important contributor to higher birth rates among Hispanics, because foreign-born women tend to have more children on average than U.S.-born women. Most growth in the Hispanic population from 2000 to 2010 was due to births, not immigration, a change from the long-time pattern. But most births to Hispanic women are to those born outside the U.S.

Interracial Relationships

Social change, not just demographic change, also is driving recent birth rate trends. A rising number of multiracial babies is being born to couples that include one white parent.

Rising rates of intermarriage explain some of the trend. Among newlyweds in 2010, 9% of whites married someone who was Hispanic or of another race. That was nearly triple the rate in 1980. In a 2009 Pew Research Center survey, 29% of whites said they have an immediate family member or close relative married to someone of a different race; this compares with 50% of nonwhites who said the same.

Survey data indicate that the public increasingly accepts and approves of intermarriage and interracial dating.

Census Bureau Methodology

The Census Bureau estimates released today are not the nation’s official birth numbers, which come from the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS). The latest final NCHS birth data that is available is for 2009. As the Census Bureau explains in its estimates methodology, it calculated the share of births for the nation’s race and ethnic groups based on 2009 data from the NCHS, along with some more current data from individual states.

Because there are differences in the race categories used by the NCHS and Census Bureau, the Census Bureau adjusted the NCHS data to be consistent with its own categories. The bureau calculated origin-specific birth rates for 2009 using its own population estimates for that year, then applied them to the estimated 2011 adult population to obtain its results.

Demographics of Motherhood

Although the Census Bureau report does not provide data on demographic characteristics of mothers, a Pew Research Center report based on other data shows that there are marked differences in age, education and marital status among mothers of different racial and ethnic groups.

Among black and Hispanic mothers, births peak among women in their early 20s. For white and Asian mothers, births peak among women in their late 20s and early 30s. Looking at educational attainment differences among groups, most white and Asian mothers are college educated, while most Hispanic and black mothers are not.

In 2009, according to the National Center for Health Statistics, 41% of births were to unmarried mothers, but the shares varied for different groups: 53% for Hispanics, 29% for non-Hispanic whites and 73% for non-Hispanic blacks.

 

[Windship]

Apology?? Im waiting...

 

[Unkotare]

It's clear you justifiably feel stupid for shooting off your big mouth and being proven completely wrong. It's also clear you don't have the character to admit it. I proved what I said beyond a shadow of a doubt and now you're trying to dance and spin instead of being a man and admitting you were wrong. Maybe if you grow up some day you'll develop the balls to take responsibility for your own ill-chosen words, boy.