How come there are over 40,000 christian denominations and more invented daily

[Weatherman2020]

This thread is about a world wide issue. Christians are the majority in America so they promote their point of view. Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists have plenty of nation where they are the majority and they to promote their views in those societies.

But atheists on attack Judeo-Christian beliefs. And they do it for one reason and one reason only.
It is the one true religion.

No, non-believers are just trying to help cure you of your delusions. That you are here is a good sign, you're questioning those delusions.

Why are you terrified to tell us why you feel the desire to "cure" people from believing in Christ?
What did I lose when I accepted Christ into my life?

Your critical thinking.

What critical thinking would that be that I miss? All those who knew me BC say I'm a much better person.

That's possible, even being a Jesus freak is better than how some humans act.

True critical analysis of the bible and all the rest would lead one to possibly like the philosophy behind the "lessons" of the bible, but would never take any of that as fact, including the certainty of there being an invisible superbeing who wants us to obey and worship it. It just doesn't stand up to real, critical thinking.

There good people who are atheists. But they are guided by their own feelings. And we all know we can rationalize and justify any action to ourselves.
No, I'd never be going to third world nations to help others in need if not for Christ. And the fact so few atheists do such a thing simply validates my statement.

 

[Weatherman2020]

The eye for an eye metaphor is simply brilliant.
Human nature is to take a life because an eye was taken (hit them back twice as hard). God says keep things in equal perspective.

So much for forgiveness then. Yours is the god of equal revenge.

Forgiveness and paying the consequences for ones actions are distinctly seperate issues. One can forgive someone for robbing them, but they are still going to prison.
Mercy is what says you deserve to go to prison but I will not send you there.
And mercy is what Jesus gave us.

So you can beat the shit out of someone in retaliation, and then forgive them? Or is it the other way around?

Wisdom begins with the fear of God.

Obedience through fear, so your god's a communist?

Any good parent/child relationship involves an element of fear.
Just because you think it involves violence does not make it so.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

"You cannot dispute that the laws of nature are such that at the moment space and time came into existence, beings that know and create were pre-destined to eventually arise." Other than hindsight, you have nothing, admit it.

I have science that proves it. What do you have that disproves it?

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Where is your proof that the universe did not have a beginning?

"In the very beginning, there was a void, a curious form of vacuum, a nothingness containing no space, no time, no matter, no light, no sound. Yet the laws of in and this curious vacuum held potential. A story logically begins at the beginning, but this story is about the universe and unfortunately there are no data for the very beginnings--none, zero. We don't know anything about the universe until it reaches the mature age of a billion of a trillionth of a second. That is, some very short time after creation in the big bang. When you read or hear anything about the birth of the universe, someone is making it up--we are in the realm of philosophy. Only God knows what happened at the very beginning."

In November of 1919, at the age of 40, Albert Einstein became an overnight celebrity, thanks to a solar eclipse. Eddington’s experiment had confirmed that light rays from distant stars were deflected by the gravity of the sun in just the amount he had predicted in his theory of gravity, general relativity. Since then, general relativity has been reaffirmed in a myriad of other ways.

General relativity was applied to the structure and evolution of the universe as a whole. The leading cosmological theory, called the Big Bang theory, was formulated in 1922 by the Russian mathematician and meteorologist Alexander Friedmann. Friedmann began with Einstein's equations of general relativity and found a solution to those equations in which the universe began in a state of extremely high density and temperature (the so-called Big Bang) and then expanded in time, thinning out and cooling as it did so.

That the universe had a beginning is widely accepted within the scientific community. The Big Bang theory has been independently validated by Hubble and Slipher - who discovered that spiral galaxies were moving away from earth - and the discovery and confirmation of the cosmic microwave background radiation in 1964.

The Lunatics' Debate

Black Holes and the singularity that led to the Big Bang are both impossible concentrations of matter. Believing in them is as stupid as believing that the world was created in 6 days. Other modern beliefs, such as the ones about justice, are as harmfully permissive as sharia or Puritanism is oppressive. So we need a better substitute for religion; the alternatives we have now are far worse. They will lead to destruction, whereas religion only leads to stagnancy.

How about Constitutionalism? And exercising due process and right to petition to redress grievances in order to resolve conflicts and objections. The purpose being to protect and include people of all beliefs and creeds while reaching a consensus on policy, and perfecting the democratic process of conflict resolution as a benefit and tool.

We Gave Them an Inch and They Did Take a Mile
A minority imposing its will on the majority is undemocratic. It's also undemocratic for bossy privileged elitists to judge for themselves whether the majority is really being threatened. .

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

"If a man also lieth with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)

Prostitution is punished by burning the woman alive according to Leviticus 21:9

So you live by the moral standard that says gays and prostitutes should be killed?

The Bible teaches morality.
Do you hate it because it says your homosexual practices are wrong? What is driving you to deny Christ yet I see no posts from you on this website concerning Buddha, Hinduism or Islam.
Why are you terrified to answer?

Dear Weatherman2020 are you addressing Mudda
If so it's likely because more Christians believe in rebuke using either Bible for church issues ot Constitutional laws and process for state issues, while followers of other faiths don't tend to take on public duty as Christians or other ppl do who are acting as govt to reform policy. More Christians tend to be more proactive vocal and public while other faiths remain more private. Because of faith in seeking agreement in truth by correction and rebuke.

This thread is about a world wide issue. Christians are the majority in America so they promote their point of view. Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists have plenty of nation where they are the majority and they to promote their views in those societies.

But atheists on attack Judeo-Christian beliefs. And they do it for one reason and one reason only.
It is the one true religion.

Weatherman2020
I'd say more specifically it is that Christian faith and teachings call for believers to forgive and reconcile after trespasses. So that in these interactions, this leads to resolving conflicts in the spirit of truth and justice to bring peace. Which is part of the process Christianity serves to bring about salvation of humanity by Christ Jesus or Restorative Justice. Note: when Buddhists or Muslims are persecuted but they answer in that same spirit of Christ, the same process happens because it is universal. Christianity teaches this openly as its core, but all people of all faiths are still part of the process indirectly of establishing truth through agreement in Christ or by Conscience to heal relations by divine Grace and forgiveness to set humanity free from the karmic cycle of sin and suffering which is broken by Jesus or divine Justice with Mercy.

No, the bible teaches "an eye for an eye". Please try again.

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Turning us into weaklings, the ruling power has managed to get people to think "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" is some kind of hardline saying. But the criminality must be punished more severely than the actual expression of it. A criminal who knocks an innocent person's tooth out is an enemy of society. So we should be suspicious of any ethical advice that comes from those who set themselves above us.

^^^ (swallowed into the quoted posts)

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Dear Weatherman2020 are you addressing Mudda
If so it's likely because more Christians believe in rebuke using either Bible for church issues ot Constitutional laws and process for state issues, while followers of other faiths don't tend to take on public duty as Christians or other ppl do who are acting as govt to reform policy. More Christians tend to be more proactive vocal and public while other faiths remain more private. Because of faith in seeking agreement in truth by correction and rebuke.

This thread is about a world wide issue. Christians are the majority in America so they promote their point of view. Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists have plenty of nation where they are the majority and they to promote their views in those societies.

But atheists on attack Judeo-Christian beliefs. And they do it for one reason and one reason only.
It is the one true religion.

Weatherman2020
I'd say more specifically it is that Christian faith and teachings call for believers to forgive and reconcile after trespasses. So that in these interactions, this leads to resolving conflicts in the spirit of truth and justice to bring peace. Which is part of the process Christianity serves to bring about salvation of humanity by Christ Jesus or Restorative Justice. Note: when Buddhists or Muslims are persecuted but they answer in that same spirit of Christ, the same process happens because it is universal. Christianity teaches this openly as its core, but all people of all faiths are still part of the process indirectly of establishing truth through agreement in Christ or by Conscience to heal relations by divine Grace and forgiveness to set humanity free from the karmic cycle of sin and suffering which is broken by Jesus or divine Justice with Mercy.

No, the bible teaches "an eye for an eye". Please try again.

The eye for an eye metaphor is simply brilliant.
Human nature is to take a life because an eye was taken (hit them back twice as hard). God says keep things in equal perspective.

So much for forgiveness then. Yours is the god of equal revenge.

Who Is Protected by the Preachers of Forgiveness?

Justice is punitive damages; equal revenge is a weakling ethic.. Those of us who think Hiroshima was justified have no problem with the fact that it was a lot worse than Pearl Harbor.

 

[emilynghiem]

I have science that proves it. What do you have that disproves it?

So what denomination are you that believes these heretic concepts of the bible?

Where is your proof that the universe did not have a beginning?

"In the very beginning, there was a void, a curious form of vacuum, a nothingness containing no space, no time, no matter, no light, no sound. Yet the laws of in and this curious vacuum held potential. A story logically begins at the beginning, but this story is about the universe and unfortunately there are no data for the very beginnings--none, zero. We don't know anything about the universe until it reaches the mature age of a billion of a trillionth of a second. That is, some very short time after creation in the big bang. When you read or hear anything about the birth of the universe, someone is making it up--we are in the realm of philosophy. Only God knows what happened at the very beginning."

In November of 1919, at the age of 40, Albert Einstein became an overnight celebrity, thanks to a solar eclipse. Eddington’s experiment had confirmed that light rays from distant stars were deflected by the gravity of the sun in just the amount he had predicted in his theory of gravity, general relativity. Since then, general relativity has been reaffirmed in a myriad of other ways.

General relativity was applied to the structure and evolution of the universe as a whole. The leading cosmological theory, called the Big Bang theory, was formulated in 1922 by the Russian mathematician and meteorologist Alexander Friedmann. Friedmann began with Einstein's equations of general relativity and found a solution to those equations in which the universe began in a state of extremely high density and temperature (the so-called Big Bang) and then expanded in time, thinning out and cooling as it did so.

That the universe had a beginning is widely accepted within the scientific community. The Big Bang theory has been independently validated by Hubble and Slipher - who discovered that spiral galaxies were moving away from earth - and the discovery and confirmation of the cosmic microwave background radiation in 1964.

The Lunatics' Debate

Black Holes and the singularity that led to the Big Bang are both impossible concentrations of matter. Believing in them is as stupid as believing that the world was created in 6 days. Other modern beliefs, such as the ones about justice, are as harmfully permissive as sharia or Puritanism is oppressive. So we need a better substitute for religion; the alternatives we have now are far worse. They will lead to destruction, whereas religion only leads to stagnancy.

How about Constitutionalism? And exercising due process and right to petition to redress grievances in order to resolve conflicts and objections. The purpose being to protect and include people of all beliefs and creeds while reaching a consensus on policy, and perfecting the democratic process of conflict resolution as a benefit and tool.

We Gave Them an Inch and They Did Take a Mile
A minority imposing its will on the majority is undemocratic. It's also undemocratic for bossy privileged elitists to judge for themselves whether the majority is really being threatened. .

Thank you The Sage of Main Street what you state goes both ways, so I hope that isn't lost to people.

The key of course is to get people to pay for their own policies they propose.

And the key to not imposing is to respect free choice and consensus, a standard that can't be forced on anyone against their true will or else it's false in contradicting it's very premise.

So I promote consensus by building it freely, and that's how I seek to undo past damages from coercion and bullying going on. Being free to agree leads to real mutual solutions that people want to support and make work, being forced to creates unfair competition and false compromise no one wants to enforce.