sakinago
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Jesus Christ, okay a vaccine created 50 years before the discovery of DNA, before viruses were even defined, MAY be more dangerous. Mind you, this vaccine has only been circulating for six months. We have no clue the long term ramifications of this vaccine. This article says that if we vaccinate 1 million people there may be 15 serious adverse events, and possibly 1 death...brother were at 9,000 deaths six months in. Let’s not forget it takes a good bit of time for the CDC to actually confirm the deaths so we’re at least a month behind. Let’s look at the VAERS data.Wow a lot of faulty premises here, as well as poor understanding of basic math and statistical. Divide those numbers by the population, Israel is 8.8 million, the US is 333 million. You get a death rate of .0000099 for the US and .0000004 for Israel. If that’s too many zeros for you, just know it’s a difference of 5 vs 6 decimal places. Stop listening/reading whoever it is you are reading.Someone defend these numbers to me.
Israel confirms vaccine less effective against Delta variant, eyes third dose
PM Bennett instructs Health Ministry to promote medical studies into long-term efficacy of Pfizer vaccine to provide decision-makers with 'vital information' on booster shotswww.timesofisrael.com
Israel is the most vaccinated country on planet earth with 80% of the population vaccinated. Remember, fauci not too long ago was telling us we needed 70% vaccinated in order to reach heard immunity. That is of course back when he still professed in believing in herd immunity. Yet Israel is going into their 3rd, or 4th lockdown...who can keep track. Those vaccines that are supposed to be 94% effective...well, it’s only looking like they’re 60%. Whoops. Yet fauci is pushing for vaccine mandates for vaccine that doesn’t appear to work for the variants...the same variants he is citing that we need to get vaccinated against. Are you plebes paying attention? Let’s not forget that VAERS is up to 9000 deaths for these vaccines. Don’t even get me started about the adverse events.
Mind you we have never created a vaccine and implemented it in the middle of a pandemic. Notice how all these variants are popping up in countries where there was heavy vaccine testing. In all pandemics, we self select for a safer virus, meaning when a virus is bad we go to the hospital to throw the kitchen sink at it, and stay away from others which decreases the survivability of the virus. Then the virus mutates into a more a cold like virus where we tough through it and go to work still, and it can spread more easily. Now, we are selecting for mutations that simply just bypass the “vaccine”.
Four people dead in the last 15 days.
The US would have ad 120 dead in the last 15 days with such a rate. When actually the US had 3,299.... uh oh. Seems to be working in Israel.
let’s tackle the faulty premises. First I never argue that the US COVID policy is great. I argue that it is god awful and killing far more people than necessary. Second, you can’t compare the population of Israel, a country that is among the lowest obesity rate in the developed world vs the US. Obesity is the highest co morbidity with COVID. Thirdly I’ve never argued that the vaccine doesn’t work. Although the more time goes on, the more it appears it’s efficacy is dropping like a rock. I’ve argued that it is dangerous as far as vaccines/treatments go. It is. That’s undeniable. Not saying if you take it you’re likely to have an adverse event. This is the most dangerous vaccine ever created by far. Which brings me to three questions.
1. Why are we pushing the most dangerous vaccine ever created onto people under 30, especially young children, whose risk from COVID is statistically zero. Myocarditis and six year olds don’t really mix
2. Why are we pushing the most dangerous vaccine in existence without determining whether or not someone has already attained natural immunity that is around 100 times more robust than a vaccine with more efficacy than these mRNA vaccines.
3. Why is the US suppressing very effective treatments like ivermectin. The numbers are in. Ivermectin is basically a miracle drug against COVID. Ask India.
Not sure what you're playing at.
.0000099 is much higher than .0000004
I literally explained that the US's rate is much high. For every 99 people dying in the US, 4 die in Israel. And you're trying to make out that the US's rate is much better?
Yes, you can compare Israel to the US. The reality is that the attitude in the US is the thing that is causing the most problems. People who are obese being told to ignore health advice and go get themselves the coronavirus.
As for obesity. Israel has an obesity level of 26.1 which makes it 45th in the world, the US has a rate of 36.2 at 12th in the world.
Let's say, Israel has 26.1% of the population obese, that's 2.42 million people.
The US has 119.46 million obese people.
So, the US has 49.36 times great number of people who are obese. So, 4 times 49.36 = that's 197.44. The US has had 3,302 deaths.
That means, even accounting for obesity, the US's rate is still 16.72 times greater.
"the most dangerous vaccine ever created"
Really? Not true actually. The small pox vaccine they used in China hundreds of years ago had a 2% fatality rate.
The Most Dangerous Vaccine
<b>Dan Rather</b> Reports On The Debate Over Safety Of Smallpox Vaccinewww.cbsnews.com
"And the smallpox vaccine is deadly, too. Scientists call it the most dangerous vaccine known to man."
"No one is certain how many people will be hurt by the vaccine. A 1969 study found that, out of every one million people vaccinated, 74 will suffer serious complications, and at least one will die."
Even the modern vaccines (the Chinese one was simply get the small pox scabs and blow it in people's noses) had a much higher death rate.
But then I doubt being honest is what you want.
"Why is the US suppressing very effective treatments like ivermectin. The numbers are in. Ivermectin is basically a miracle drug against COVID. Ask India."
Ask India? India with 12,000 deaths in the last 15 days? With a population 4 times larger than the US, that's 3,000 deaths in 15 days at US levels. About the same. So if their "miracle cure" is so great, why is India as bad as the USA?
Excuse me I was wrong. We’re actually at 11,000 deaths, not 9000.
30,000 hospitalizations (8,800 life threatening)
1000 miscarriages
3900 heart attacks (100 of which are below the age of 24)
2500 myocarditis (1000 of which are below the age of 25)
2500 thrombocytopenia
still going with your “not the most dangerous vaccine”?
Again, WHY IS THIS BEING PUSHED ON CHILDREN WHO ARE NEITHER VICTIMS NOR VECTORS OF COVID? We WANT children out of anyone to catch COVID, because they blow right through it like it’s nothing. Especially when there is ivermectin out there. Which even the “we don’t recognize Taiwan exists” WHO admits is 81% effective at reducing mortality, and 64% at reducing hospitalizations. Better than the Israel vaccine efficacy.
Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19... : American Journal of Therapeutics
mortality, in secondary outcomes, and in chemoprophylaxis, among people with, or at high risk of, COVID-19 infection. Data sources: We searched bibliographic databases up to April 25, 2021. Two review authors sifted for studies, extracted data, and assessed risk of bias. Meta-analyses were...journals.lww.com
Then the WHO amazingly came to the conclusion of still “don’t take ivermectin”. You can’t make this shit up. Now, despite these 1000s of studies citing the benefits of ivermectin, one single study comes out, the Colombian study, saying they didn’t see any benefit. Turns out this study was using people under 30. Well no duh you didn’t see any difference. We already know that for people under 30 the flu is more dangerous than COVID, so, yeah their symptoms are already mild. And The NY Times runs with that instead. Ask yourself why? Here’s a group of 120 doctors exposing how bad this study was
I even saw a guardian article interviewing a STUDENT, claiming there was huge holes in the data. These massive holes were “the abstract appears to be plagerized” and “a few of the patients were under the age of 18, when the abstract said all above 18” as well as “some of the cases took place at an earlier date than mentioned in the abstract”. Mind you, this is a meta data study. I can’t roll my eyes enough. Can’t. Make. This. Shit. Up.
Some more Israel data
New Israeli drug cured 29 of 30 moderate/serious COVID cases in days — hospital
Medicine developed at Ichilov moderates immune response, helps prevent deadly cytokine storm, researchers say; 29 of 30 phase 1 trial patients left hospital within 3-5 days
some India data
Ivermectin obliterates 97 percent of Delhi cases
A 97% decline in Delhi cases with Ivermectin is decisive - period. It represents the last word in an epic struggle to save lives and preserve human rights. This graphwww.thedesertreview.com
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Unprecedented Pandemic Turnaround in Uttar Pradesh with Dramatic Decline in Cases
The health authorities for the state of Uttar Pradesh are easing up on COVID-19-based restrictions, at least in zones of the state where SARS-CoV-2 infections now fall below 600 cases. Just how big of a turnaround is the situation there? Well, for much of February and March of 2021, the average...trialsitenews.com
You can say "Jesus Christ", but if you're going to make dodgy claims, people are going to actually realize pretty quickly you're wrong. If you keep making wrong claims, people aren't going to trust what you say. Think about it.
COVID-19 Vaccination
COVID-19 vaccines protect against COVID-19. Get safety info and more.www.cdc.gov
The CDC says "Anaphylaxis after COVID-19 vaccination is rare and has occurred in approximately 2 to 5 people per million vaccinated in the United States."
See How Vaccinations Are Going in Your County and State (Published 2022)
See where doses have gone, and who is eligible for a shot in each state.www.nytimes.com
I've got 185.4 million people vaccinated, so max you're looking at 927 people who have had it. Your website, which could be from anyone, says 2,487 people. A much higher number. Where does it get its stats from? Or does it merely triple or quadruple CDC stats?
"During this time, VAERS received 6,079 reports of death (0.0018%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine."
So, their figure is nearly half what your "openVAERS" says.
"FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause."
So, literally if you get hit by a truck after the vaccine, it gets reported. What these people died from, we don't know. Many people are old and would have died with or without the vaccine anyway.
Nothing suggests kids are dying from the vaccine.
Ivermectin is a drug that has been looked at, some people have said it works well, others have found problems with their data.
"Even though ivermectin is used routinely in some countries to treat COVID-19, there is little evidence from large-scale randomised controlled trials to demonstrate that it can speed up recovery from the illness or reduce hospital admission."
It might work for some, but on the huge scales we're talking about it seems like it's not worth it. The thing is you say this one drug should be used, and yet not a vaccine that has been proven to work much better. It's weird, I don't get it.
Ivermectin obliterates 97 percent of Delhi cases
A 97% decline in Delhi cases with Ivermectin is decisive - period. It represents the last word in an epic struggle to save lives and preserve human rights. This graph
This article you presented says "This graph shows that Ivermectin, used in Delhi beginning April 20, obliterated their COVID crisis."
1,737 people died on the 20th April in India. 3,498 people died on the 30th April.
3,754 people died on the 10th May. 3,128 people died at the end of May (31st).
So, Indian cases ROSE from the date this website says Delhi introduced this. Yes, Delhi is only 16 million people from 1.3 billion, but if Delhi's doing something right, why not everyone else in India?
I found this about this "Justus R. Hope"
"This is not the name of a real doctor in California as their biography claims. I’ve found on hopepressworks.org that this is a pen name."
Seems it's not even a real name. I can't verify this, but I also can't find anything positive about him either.
Ivermectin: Wonder drug? Not really, say experts | Delhi News - Times of India
An increasing number of Delhiites infected by Covid-19 are now being put on Ivermectin – an orally administered drug that is generally used to treat ptimesofindia.indiatimes.com
Here's the Times of India.
"Ivermectin: Wonder drug? Not really, say experts"
This is from May 13th, after Ivermectin was being administered.
"Dr Suneela Garg, member, Covid-India Task Force of Lancet
Commission, said" “We only recommend its use in mild cases, like other drugs that have been used,”
"There was little justification in using Ivermectin, asserted Dr S.K Sarin, director, Institute of Liver and Biliary Sciences"
Let me restate. I am not an anti Vaxer. I am up to date on all my shots, as well as my kids.
VAERS is the vaccine adverse event reporting system (I think, whatever, you get the picture). If I remember correctly it was started by Robert Kennedy. It works in conjunction with the CDC. Doctors send it cases of possible adverse events, meaning an allergic reaction (anaphylaxis), Guillian-Barre, Bell’s palsy, etc. The cdc then checks the medical records to make sure he vaccine was most likely the culprit. Then it goes into the VAERS database. VAERS is not some nutty conspiracy site/database. It’s the medical communities standard tracking apparatus. One that’s been used to disprove many of the anti-vaxer theories.
Do I really have to explain to you there is a difference between reporting and confirming? I suppose so. In a standard drug trial, when any adverse event happens, it gets reported. Whether it was clearly not caused by the drug or not. Then it gets confirmed as an AE caused by the drug, or not. It’s still important to report all AE even when it’s widely believed not to be caused by the drug in question just in case there is a trend. Here’s a bad example, but an illustration. 20 people got hit by a bus on our drug. Clearly it’s not caused by the drug. Oh wait, our subjects are getting hit by buses at a higher clip than the average public, maybe it’s causing bus blindness. We should look into that. Clearly that’s silly, but illustrates why it’s important to report all adverse events. So, VAERS is NOT displaying the REPORTED adverse events. I’ve already clearly stated this in previous posts. That would be insane for public trust in vaccines because you wouldn’t want Jenny McCarthy to report that she took a vaccine and her vagina exploded 50 times. The CDC would call up Jenny and say hey, let us see them records. She obviously wouldn’t be able to produce them. Then that report would NOT go up onto VAERS. If it’s murky whether or not an AE was caused by a vaccine it does not go up. On top of that, VAERS tracks the time elapsed from the jab to when the AE happens. So you can see, “hey we’re seeing a lot of myocarditis 2 days out from the jab”.
Anaphylaxis (an allergic reaction) is just ONE type of adverse event. Its fairly common as far as AEs for standard vaccines go. Let me talk down now and make sure we understand the above statement correctly, because I’m not going to address you saying “aNaPhYlAxIs iSnT cOmMoN fOr JaBs.” That’s NOT what I said. As far adverse events among vaccines, anaphylaxis is a common adverse event in standard vaccines. So the CDC is just bringing up one event. So that’s like a car with 10 things wrong with it, and the manufacturer says, it’s just the oil filters that go bad. This is the same CDC that used the criminally wrong imperial college models, that were incredibly far off. The CDC is not that dumb, but they know y’all are. The same CDC that agreed with the one BS lancet study (that they knew was BS) on HCQ showing no efficacy, that LATER HAD TO BE RETRACTED AFTER THE SMALLEST BIT OF SCRUTINY. The same CDC whose director went of TV and said that masks work better than a vaccine for airborne viruses, which is insane, but the CDC is not insane. The same CDC that was recommending a testing PCR rate of 30, which is also insane as stated by the worlds top virologist at Cambridge, Oxford, Harvard, Hopkins, Stanford, etc. Although, if you’ve taken the vaccine, they recommend a PCR test at 15, which is what it should’ve been all along. Ain’t that something? Again, the CDC is not this dumb. The same CDC that a month ago had to say “whoops we kind of inflated the pediatric COVID hospitalization rate (which was already low) by damn near double. CDC is not this stupid. And then a couple of weeks ago GOT CAUGHT LYING ABOUT THEIR OWN NUMBERS when they said teens COVID rates are exploding, when if you turn the x axis back a week it was the most minor of bumps on a sharply declining rate. These are the games the CDC has been playing with the public. There has long been an incestuous relationship among CDC, NIH, Universities grant systems, big pharma board seats and no show/cushy jobs, hospital board seats, lobbying, etc. I never thought that the doctors on the ground would put their patients at risk due to the games played by the bureaucrats and lobbyists, outside of selling a more expensive drug over the generic or something to that effect. Turns out most doctors work for large medical corporations, as private practice is dying (a whole other issue). Corporations put up guidelines their doctors are supposed to follow. Those guidelines are set up by organizations like the NIH, and CDC. I couldn’t tell you the motivations for the CDC diving head first for COVID panic porn and vaccine mongering. It’s probably a combination of many with some politics thrown in there too. But the CDC and NIH have been absolutely derelict this entire pandemic. Just so we get that clear and out of the way.
I suppose because someone on Reddit said that scholarly journals don’t use pseudonyms, it must be true. Wrong. It’s not common because most researchers want that credit, obviously. But it does happen, and there’s nothing barring them from doing so. As long as the study is reproducible, why would it matter? There’s actually a famous case of a conglomerate of big pharma research insiders using a pseudonym to call BS on their own companies. So anytime some insider saw something wrong, they’d use this particular pseudonym. It’s been sort of a reoccurring deep throat for the medical community. It would also make total sense that someone would want to publish an ivermectin study under a pseudonym in this climate. The suppression of things like HCQ and ivermectin has been absolutely insane. The fucking fed is actually coming after a doctor for recommending vitamin D supplements to help with resilience to COVID, which is 100% true. Dr Peter McCullough is senior editor at the top cardiovascular journal, as well as editor for a few other journals. Is the most published doctor on the subject of treating COVID, and not for backwater journals that are ego boosts for pointless research. Further he’s treated thousands of patients with COVID with extreme success rates. And mainstream media is trying to call him a quack for saying “hey, let’s actually treat COVID at the onset of symptoms, like we would with strep throat (or insert any other disease under the sun).” So it doesn’t surprise me at al someone would use a pseudonym for going against big pharma, fauci, and their corporate media flying monkeys. The reason why they’re coming after ivermectin is because the patent has been up on it for a while, it’s extremely cheap, and no one makes money off of it. Not big pharma, not the hospitals, not the media relying on big pharma ads (especially Fox News). Instead they want to use remdisivir, which at best is 40% effective (that’s looking like a flop as the data comes in) which they charge 5 grand a pop for. Interestingly enough, Merck, the creator of ivermectin is saying their own drug isn’t “safe” for COVID. You might say Ah-Ha, proof ivermectin is a farce. Until you learn Merck got a 2 billion dollar grant from the govt to produce a drug THAT LOOKS AN AWFUL LOT LIKE IVERMECTIN JUST CHANGED ENOUGH TO FILE A NEW PATENT ON.
As far as India, different provinces had their own different guidelines, which is why it was such a slam dunk for ivermectin. You could compare provinces using it vs those using remdisivir or whatever they chose to go with. I’ll state it again, the Indian Bar association (you know that little org that actually liscences the lawyers) is going after officials/MDs who did not recommend ivermectin. It’s quite the statement. And let’s not forget INDIAS DEATH PER MILLION RATE IS 1/7 THAT OF THE UNITED STATES. Despite that whole delta variant scare porn fiasco.
I don't care whether you think you're an anti-vaxer or not. You're making you argument and I'm opposing those things I think are wrong.
I know what VAERS is, but your website was openVAERS. Who knows who runs it, who knows where they get their info from. "OpenVAERS is a project developed by a small team of people with vaccine injuries or have children with vaccine injuries. " That's what they say. Could be anyone, could be any one with a narrative to push. Who knows?
The issue here, and with most of your post, is one of who to trust. You have information from some guy who we literally have no idea who he is. Is that reliable information? No, it's not. It could just be some kid pretending to be a doctor.
As for India, you made the case that Ivermectin is doing a great job, but you're not backing up your claim. You're telling me I could go look at regional data, but YOU haven't gone and looked at this data. You haven't made a compelling case that it would be an effective drug to use en masse against the coronavirus. Simple as.
OpenVAERS is just a less clunky quicker searching VAERS. VAERS, if you haven’t tried it, is very clunky. More so than pubmed. That’s all. It gets its data from VAERS, it’s just way easier to find what you’re looking for. Confirm the data on VAERS if you want. Ask me for tips on searching if you need, which you probably will.
And no I have not been giving y’all information from one guy. And it’s not just any guy. It’s multiple highly credentialed doctors and researchers at the zenith of the medical industry. Many of whom are actually treating COVID patients and seeing the results for themselves. The only credentials these guys are missing is maybe a Nobel prize. Do your own research on these guys yourself if you wish. Peter McCullough, Pierre Kory, Mobeen Syad, Bryan Tyson, Ryan Cole, George Fareed, Harvey Risch, just off the top of my head. You don’t get any higher credentials than these guys. There’s also thousands of lesser known MDs who support and prescribe ivermectin. Mind you, it is not part of the NIH/CDC guidelines for treating COVID. It’s important to note that because it leaves these docs open to liability if it doesn’t work out. These guys are putting their money, licenses , and careers on the line.
I am almost damn near positive I did show that, specifically with you. Here it is once again.
Ivermectin obliterates 97 percent of Delhi cases
A 97% decline in Delhi cases with Ivermectin is decisive - period. It represents the last word in an epic struggle to save lives and preserve human rights. This graph
The problem is the openVAERS website literally makes no claim to be connected to VAERS. They literally say they're just a bunch of people who have suffered or had kids who have suffered from the negative effects of vaccines.
Okay, you say that 11,000 people have died BECAUSE OF THE VACCINE. You have the openVAERS website to "prove" this.
Show me where it says this on the VAERS website, or the CDC website. (it doesn't, just to make things easier for you, I've explained that already).
No offense, but you haven't been giving that much information at all. What you have been giving is dodgy at best. Information about deaths after having received a vaccine, which is almost meaningless, some info about Ivermectin that doesn't say anything much at all. You claim Delhi has had a damn near miracle, and yet the rest of India seems to be ignoring it, the doctors say it's not a good drug, and everyone's like "nah... we'll pass".
You're going to need much better than simple saying "Well, Delhi's done well, hasn't it?". Yes, posting the same web page about Delhi twice doesn't make it more likely to be true, you know?
Again, your source is dodgy. The person who wrote it is unknown, could be some kid jerking off in his parents' garage. The data is just data, I don't know how many people took Ivermectin, I don't know how many people in other parts of India took it, I don't know anything else.
Just some graph from somewhere, I have no idea where, the claims to show something I'm very dubious about. "This graph shows that..." but doesn't link to said graph.
"Will you believe this 97% eradication graph," and this is what we've got, the dude asking if I'll BELIEVE his graph. Not that I'd accept it because the data is good, but BELIEVE (ie, accept without knowing), how very amateur, smells like conspiracy theories all over the world. Getting emotional, trying to manipulate people.
You obviously did not search right, if at all. But it wouldn’t surprise me if you just searched wrong because of how clunky it is. On top of that they conveniently have taken down the mapping feature to “work for the past few months making it even harder. Huh, ain’t that funny.
Here ya go.
I also have a feeling they’re going to do some fuckery with links and make people re-enter booleans. So, I will take a screen shot, and post that too.
I believe my booleans operators were sort by sex, all symptoms, vaccine type COVID 19, all locations and genders, and event type death. If you want a breakdown of manufacturers, you can do it yourself and put that into the sorting. I’m done satisfying every one of your ridiculous objections to my sources, and ever changing goal posts. “Whose openVAERS?” “We don’t know where their data comes from”. Stop it. They download it directly from the CDC. You can do that yourself if you wish. Its actually easier doing that than searching the damn thing. Did you not stop and think the CDC would send them a cease and desist immediately? Did you not think that every vaccine manufacturer would be suing their asses off for defamation and liable damages if they weren’t getting their info straight from the CDC?
Even if it’s only 6,000 deaths or whatever you claim (which is what it was 2 weeks ago), THAT STILL IS MORE DEATHS THAN ANY OTHER VACCINE COMBINED SINCE THE INCEPTION OF VAERS.
Lets break down how this vaccine works and what makes it dangerous. Maybe then y’all will start to understand. Remember when COVID first came out and the lockdowns and yada yada yada. Scientist and doctors were seeing (and still do) this bizarre inflammation, or clotting, or both in some of their more dire and lethal cases. Well, they eventually determined it was the spike protein causing an autoimmune response and/or causing clots to be thrown (I believe they still haven’t figured out why with the clots). I’m sure y’all remember all this. The spike proteins in the lungs causing inflammation, making it painful to breath, severely lowering o2 saturation, etc. Okay. Now both the mRNA vaccines (moderna, Phizer) and the adenovirus vaccines (AZ, J&J) are different ways to go about achieving the same goal. That goal is having your body produce the spike protein. They chose the spike protein because it was kind of the easy choice to go with. Turns out the spike protein is a problem. So, they modified the spike to essentially make it “stickier” in hopes that it wouldn’t leave the shoulder muscle and travel around the body. They chose to do the worst possible test to “confirm” that it doesn’t travel. The test involves antibodies and bioluminescent molecules, in which you’re supposed to slice the tissues up and use a spectrometer to detect photons in tissue slides. They did not slice the tissues up, they instead looked at the organs as a whole, giving the bioluminescent molecules plenty of opportunity to hide within the tissues. This is the type of fuckery big pharma does on a semi regular basis. Kind of like with their booster and how they “can’t guarantee protection 5 or however many years out” because they STOP testing it after 5 years. So get your booster every 5 years. See how that works? So, they do BS test and now they can go on tv and claim that the”spike protein stays in the injection site”. If the spike protein wasn’t potentially dangerous, ask yourself why it was so necessary for them to claim it doesn’t leave the injection site? Why would that matter? Now, usually they would not attempt this type of fuckery with something potentially harmful. Not worth the potential class action lawsuits. BUT WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WAVES ALL YOUR LIABILITY, I guess go ahead and send it and get them money bags.
I also take it you didn’t read the India link I sent you? Or stopped reading after a certain point? It’s most certainly not just Delhi in that link. Delhi just made the headlines. It shows data from around 5 provinces that put ivermectin in their guidelines, compared to around 5 who didn’t. Look at it again
As far as ivermectin efficacy studies I already posted a link to 50 of them. 30 of which are randomized controlled studies. Including a meta analysis of them all. Again not satisfying every one of your objections when it’s been asked and answered your honor, and you’re not actually reading my sources.
As far as the doctors and researchers I pointed you too, the weak ad hominem of “I don’t know who these people are” is not going to work. You want to attack their credentials, fine, go for it. But you have to actually look at what their credentials are if your gonna go with that route. Even then it’s still an ad hominem, and your not addressing the issues they discuss.
