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The ClayTaurus said:You're oversimplifying and reducing the argument to absolutes. Yet again.
What I'm saying is regarding his initial point, that the majority of people being displeased in the job done by the FCC is indicative of them being disapproving of what's on television. And if that was the case, the shows that the majority of people were disapproving of would be cancelled. You can't liken Will & Grace to heroin.rtwngAvngr said:No I'm not. You're saying people should have what they want. THAT'S what's simplistic, in truth. The argument against porn is not that "people don't want it", the argument is "it's not GOOD for society". Two different things. Thanks though.
The ClayTaurus said:What I'm saying is regarding his initial point, that the majority of people being displeased in the job done by the FCC is indicative of them being disapproving of what's on television. And if that was the case, the shows that the majority of people were disapproving of would be cancelled. You can't liken Will & Grace to heroin.
You oversimplified that to me thinking everyone should get to do whatever they want. Which is not my position. Its just oversimplified and absolute, which makes it more appealing for you to attribute to me.
Riiiiiiiiiight.rtwngAvngr said:It's indicative of their displeasure of the amount of tits and swear words on tv. They can still like a lot of shows and still be displeased with the boobage and language. It's still a bad point, but in a slightly different way.
The ClayTaurus said:Riiiiiiiiiight.
rtwngAvngr said:It's indicative of their displeasure of the amount of tits and swear words on tv. They can still like a lot of shows and still be displeased with the boobage and language. It's still a bad point, but in a slightly different way.
jillian said:What shows on network (not pay) TV have "boobage"? I'm sure my husband would like to know
As for language/content, there should be a different standard before and after 9 p.m. I think the old 8-9 p.m. family hour is probably a good idea. But again, it's still the parents' responsibility to monitor what's on TV.
So now you're big on using polls as indicators?rtwngAvngr said:Yes. I am right. You're actually the one oversimplifying by saying that the fcc statistic must be inaccurate because people haven't rejected the entire medium alltogether. That's a brazen oversimplification if ever there was a brazen oversimplification.
rtwngAvngr said:I don't know, clay seems to think children should be forced to watch porn for several hours a day by law. JUST KIDDING!:teeth:
The ClayTaurus said:So now you're big on using polls as indicators?
jillian said:So basically it's all sound and fury signifying nothing?
How about we leave choices to the grownups and government should stay out of our personal business?
Government does badly enough with the important things.
rtwngAvngr said:Would this apply to other vice items like drugs and prostitution?
rtwngAvngr said:Would this apply to other vice items like drugs and prostitution?
ScreamingEagle said:I am a real conservative make no mistake about that. And I agree with you about wanting to have as little government involvement in our lives as possible. However, where you and I seem to part ways is where to draw that line. Tell me, are you also against consumer protection laws as well? Or drug laws? Or marriage laws? Or speeding laws?
IMO when an activity becomes harmful to society then it warrants intervention to prevent destruction of society. I think it is irresponsible to allow negative activity that undermines and destroys us .you do agree that being conservative is also about being responsible, don't you?
You say parents are the first and only line of defense. Does that also mean that parents are also the first and only line of defense against child molestors? Porn and child molestation are closely related and the number of child predators is enormous and in many cases the parent cannot stop the predator.
bush lover said:Janet Jackson has very large breasts, and I personally find them to be very offensive and immoral. Also Bob &Tom and Howard Stern say immoral things but I'm not sure all the time. So that is why we need a Censor Board to monitor all of the immoral things on radio and TV and interpret these obscenities for us and then punish the perpetrators on our behalf. I think there should be significant jail time for immoral things too. I think we have to start cleaning up the filfth on the air. We don't need to listen to the liberal filfth on TV and the radio. So they should be prohibited. Start with Air America. They talk filfthy on that radio station.
jillian said:What shows on network (not pay) TV have "boobage"? I'm sure my husband would like to know
As for language/content, there should be a different standard before and after 9 p.m. I think the old 8-9 p.m. family hour is probably a good idea. But again, it's still the parents' responsibility to monitor what's on TV.
insein said:
I dont know why you get your jollies by trying to parody conservatives but whatever floats your boat. This isnt DU where your banned for having a different opinion you know.
insein said:But it shouldnt be forced by government. If the industry it self feels that its customers want a family hour and they decide to sell their product that way, then that is their business. IF they decide that sex sells, then that too is their business. Its the consumer's choice of whether or not to watch it. By turning off the programs you dont like, you are helping to get it removed or at the very least, your not watching it. IF enough people think like you (thats a generic "you" not directed at anyone in particular) then the show will be canceled due to bad ratings.
The control is in the hand of the consumer. You know that "free" word claytaurus cant remember.
