I knew it wouldn't take long: re - stolen VA Records official the fault of GWB

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    wow.

    I need somebody to explain how somebody so educated and 'successfull' as a US Senator can be such an absolute TOOL.


    More:

    http://www.komotv.com/stories/43795.htm
     
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    They probably have my records... Bastages! I have never asked for anything from the VA...
     
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    I have. My two home loans and my wife's truck payment.

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    OK, I'll bite on your little trolling expedition dmp... who should take the blame for this breach of security? Who's head should roll?
     
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    The idiot that first of all allowed them to collect data on millions, most of which never applied for help from the VA. He is a bureaucrat that has worked there through several administrations. Also the idiot that took home a computer that they were not supposed to. When I was working at a government agency, had I removed information that I wasn't supposed to have I would have been in prison....

    How can you possibly think that this type of direct decision is somehow Bush's fault? There is no possible way he could micromanage to this level, there are not enough centuries in existence for any one person to do that.
     
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    how about this:

    "THE FUCKER WHO TOOK THE INFORMATION HOME?" Maybe????

    wow.

    I bet you're in the camp who blamed GWB for last year's hurricane season, too.
     
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    I agree that he couldn't micromanage at that level. But there's more to it than that. I'll expand on that in a bit here.
     
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    Who would you behead over this?
     
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    I'm not sure what Lalaworld you live in... but in the real world of IT... we have these little things called procedures and policies and security. For instance, my badge has a little icon on it which indicates that I am allowed to take a laptop home... the security guys look at every person as they leave and make sure that those taking stuff home have the appropriate icon.

    Now, I'm not saying that the system can't be gamed... and, perhaps that's what happened here... perhaps the guy who took the laptop home snuck it past some guards... don't know. But, I want to know (and the VA's homepage doesn't say)... 1) if it's against policy for this guy to take home a laptop with this information on it... how was he able to do it? how'd this guy get past your guards with a laptop he shouldn't have had? 2) what's your procedure for making sure this information doesn't leave the premises? since that procedure failed, what are you going to do to fix it? 3) what security measures are in place to keep this information out of the hands of those who don't need access to it and what security measures are in place to make sure those who do have it don't break the policies surrounding taking it home?

    If this were to happen out here in the real world, not lalagovernment world, I assure you that these are the questions our customers would be asking us. And, they wouldn't take, "we put the guy who gave away your information on administrative leave" for an answer either. There'd be heads all the way up to the InfoSec's director... perhaps even the CIO... rolling
     
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    You are TERRIBLE at quoting btw...

    Nobody accused of blaming anyone - the sheer idiocy in your posts, however, suggest you'd NOT place the blame squarely upon the focker who brought the info home.

    None of that matters. None of that matters to this story. Are you trying to show off? do you think you're smarter than I am?

    What is your major malfunction? Theres no breakdown in system or policy - it was ONE guy Failing to secure sensative information. Get over it. Stop hunting for bullshit when the bull is right in front of you.

    Fuck you and your real world. Newsflash, sweetheart - you HAVE your world because people like ME work at keeping your world safe.

    Just like you, and your ilk. Blame. Blame is most important. The focker who took the info home should be fired. That's the cause of the problem, unless it comes out that he was INSTRUCTED to take the information home.
     

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