House no longer to enable Imperial Presidency

[Cammmpbell]

I'm guessing the OP is either young or hasn't seen much formal education.

He acts as if Obama is Stalin.

But Obama is actually Carter. He has failed to stand up to the filibustering obstructionists in congress. Reagan raised the debt limit 3 times without a peep from the right. Bush raised the debt limit every year he was in office and we didn't hear a fucking thing. Obama is allowing himself to be badgered and beaten by this movement of money-driven idiocy. The Left needs a fighter.

Here is what the OP doesn't know.

During his first term Obama signed into law a series of tax cuts that exceed the tax cuts passed by Bush in his first term.

Bush cut taxes by $574 billion in today’s dollars, or about 1.1 percent of gross domestic product. Obama cut taxes by $654 billion in 2011 and 2012 alone.

Ask the OP who spent more: Reagan or Cater?

Ask the OP who raised the debt more: Reagan or Carter?

The answers he gives will tell you something about his education.

(God help us. Half the country is being educated by Rush Limbaugh and FOX News. God help us.)

They don't want to hear it. The Republican majority gave George W. Bush the tax cuts he wanted in 2001 and 2003 and watched the debt soar while two wars raged 10,000 miles away. When those tax cuts were enacted using reconciliation to block Democrat opposition there were surpluses projected all the way to the outyears but the Republicans elected higher debt over considering raising the rates back to hold the debt at a reasonable level. Now they are prepared to refuse the grant of a higher debt ceiling to pay the interest on money THEY borrowed. The Republicans appear to prefer seeing the nation fail before they will pay their own debt. This whole thing is complicated but not to the T Party Right......their agenda is one thing......Screw Everybody and Every Thing to keep Corporations and the Wealthy from paying their share.

 

[SniperFire]

Sniper, the Vodka is beginning to cloud your sense of judgeme......wait.....forget that. You have neither.

Let's test your judgement, peckerhead.

Since the 50's, military has gone from 70% of the Federal budget to about 20%.

Handouts to individuals have gone from 15% of the Federal budget to about 65% today.

Which is the runaway expense category? Handouts to freeloaders or military?

File:U.S. Federal Spending - FY 2011.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There you go SF, balance that budget without touching military spending... Now before you claim you didn't say you wouldn't cut military spending, you did imply that military spending overal was sOOoOooOOo low compared to hand outs that my even bringing up cuts to military as being the only way to balance the budget was near absurd.

So how you gonna do it SF? You gonna end all of SS tomorrow? Maybe cut MC/MC out fully too? Because that's pretty much your options...

Military would need around 300 billion in cuts is all I'm getting at. I don't suggest we cut the only thing in the top 3 of spending that the constitution allows out fully or something retarded like that.

Your best is an obvious strawman?

That is as far as I need to read.


LOL

 

[SniperFire]

Not what they taught you in commie school, eh?

"Entitlements?"

Right-wing propaganda has successfully altered the definition of the word, entitlement, to the point where it presently is presumed to mean the same thing as the word, charity.

An entitlement is something one has a right to expect as by virtue of some form of contract, such as interest paid on an investment, etc. As such, both Social Security and Medicare are proper entitlements because disbursement of both are contingent on certain qualifying criteria and are supported in full or in part by contributions paid in advance by prospective recipients.

Food stamps are not entitlements but are categorical charity, as is any other government assistance or aid which is not a component of some routine government program.

The practice of combining charitable disbursements with proper entitlements has emerged as an effective right-wing propaganda device which is intended to promote privatization of the Social Security and the Medicare programs, thereby gradually implanting a subliminal impression in the public mind (brainwashing) that these programs are charities rather than entitlements.

Social Security and Medicare are legitimate entitlements. They are not charities. Their recipients are entitled to the benefits.

Medicare is not running into financial trouble because the program is defective but rather because it is not properly managed. The fault lies mainly with the inability of government to control the medical bureaucracy and to eliminate fraud.

The Social Security Trust Fund, which is the amount of money the program is owed by government will remain fully solvent under existing eligibility conditions until the year 2038. But there are several conservative methods by which its solvency can be extended indefinitely.

STFU, freeloader.

LOL

 

[chikenwing]

He won't argue that. He is Borg.

It's the same way they speak about black people...as if the Democrat party OWNS them and they are proud of it

it's horrible how they see people

Its not that Democrats own black people as much as that black people hate Republicans

and for a very good reason

That just plan a ass stupid post,your mother have any kids that lived??

 

[Cammmpbell]

It's the same way they speak about black people...as if the Democrat party OWNS them and they are proud of it

it's horrible how they see people

Its not that Democrats own black people as much as that black people hate Republicans

and for a very good reason

That just plan a ass stupid post,your mother have any kids that lived??

Did Yours?

 

[rightwinger]

It's the same way they speak about black people...as if the Democrat party OWNS them and they are proud of it

it's horrible how they see people

Its not that Democrats own black people as much as that black people hate Republicans

and for a very good reason

That just plan a ass stupid post,your mother have any kids that lived??

Care to discuss?

How do you explain that prior to the 1960s Republicans had 90% of the black vote and today they have 10% of the black vote?

 

[JoeB131]

'Boehner tells GOP he’s through negotiating one-on-one with Obama'

Negotiating in backrooms with the dishonest Obama been their biggest fuckup.

He has finally figured out that the House must debate and pass the legislation and force the Senate to take action.

Allowing Harry Reid to destroy how Congress operates has simply crushed our ability to create fiscally-responsible budgets, not to mention the short-circuiting of the entire lawmaking process.
]

What's the point of negotiating with Boohoooner when he can't control the whacks in his own caucus...

You only negotiate when your side can make good on its agreements, that's kind of the point.

we are already seeing the rifts between the establishment republicans and the Teabaggers... and those will get worse as the Teabaggers get more and more irrational.

 

[Stephanie]

Its not that Democrats own black people as much as that black people hate Republicans

and for a very good reason

That just plan a ass stupid post,your mother have any kids that lived??

Care to discuss?

How do you explain that prior to the 1960s Republicans had 90% of the black vote and today they have 10% of the black vote?

Unfortunately they listened to the propaganda fed to them year after year about how Democrats CARE MORE. what has it got them?

 

[SniperFire]

'Boehner tells GOP he’s through negotiating one-on-one with Obama'

Negotiating in backrooms with the dishonest Obama been their biggest fuckup.

He has finally figured out that the House must debate and pass the legislation and force the Senate to take action.

Allowing Harry Reid to destroy how Congress operates has simply crushed our ability to create fiscally-responsible budgets, not to mention the short-circuiting of the entire lawmaking process.
]

What's the point of negotiating with Boohoooner when he can't control the whacks in his own caucus...

You only negotiate when your side can make good on its agreements, that's kind of the point.

we are already seeing the rifts between the establishment republicans and the Teabaggers... and those will get worse as the Teabaggers get more and more irrational.

Your best is idiot. The 'cliff' legislation, for example, passed on a purely bi-partisan basis.

 

[JoeB131]

Its not that Democrats own black people as much as that black people hate Republicans

and for a very good reason

That just plan a ass stupid post,your mother have any kids that lived??

Care to discuss?

How do you explain that prior to the 1960s Republicans had 90% of the black vote and today they have 10% of the black vote?

I don't think that's accurate.

In 1956, Eisenhower got 46% of the Black vote, whichwas a high watermark since the Great Depression.

Also, prior to 1960, most blacks weren't allowed to vote.

I do think the GOP alienated blacks starting with Barry Goldwater being against the Civil Rights bill. Barry wasn't racist, probably less racist than LBJ was on a personal level, but the end result of it was blacks realized the Dems had their backs and Republicans didn't.

But Nixon's SOuthern Strategy, Reagan's Welfare Queen, Bush's Willie Horton ads... All just drove the GOP further in the wrong direction.

The guy who had the right idea on reaching out was George W. Bush. But Romney probably set the GOP back another decade.

 

[SniperFire]

That just plan a ass stupid post,your mother have any kids that lived??

Care to discuss?

How do you explain that prior to the 1960s Republicans had 90% of the black vote and today they have 10% of the black vote?

Unfortunately they listened to the propaganda fed to them year after year about how Democrats CARE MORE. what has it got them?

A permanent status as underclass citizenry, brought by the Democrats holding black people to a lower standard.

Human nature wins.

 

[JoeB131]

Unfortunately they listened to the propaganda fed to them year after year about how Democrats CARE MORE. what has it got them?

Well, it got rid of shit like this...

and this...

Oh, yeah, first black guy elected President? A Democrat!

 

[Cammmpbell]

Its not that Democrats own black people as much as that black people hate Republicans

and for a very good reason

That just plan a ass stupid post,your mother have any kids that lived??

Care to discuss?

How do you explain that prior to the 1960s Republicans had 90% of the black vote and today they have 10% of the black vote?

That's easy.....up till then the Blacks actually believed Lincoln freed the slaves. Thank goodness they finally caught on to the Republican party......same as I did.

Does it make any possible difference to you that Lyndon Johnson was responsible for the first really effective changes to the way Blacks have always been treated.....especially in the South?

 

[rightwinger]

That just plan a ass stupid post,your mother have any kids that lived??

Care to discuss?

How do you explain that prior to the 1960s Republicans had 90% of the black vote and today they have 10% of the black vote?

Unfortunately they listened to the propaganda fed to them year after year about how Democrats CARE MORE. what has it got them?

I think their problem is that blacks also listen to the propaganda coming out of the conservatives. The ones labeling all blacks as welfare queens. The ones saying blacks are incapable of making rational decisions.

Blacks are not looking for more handouts. More than anything they are looking for respect. They hear the rhetoric coming out of the right. They see the right accomodating the racists with just a smirk. They see the posters of Obama with a bone through his nose. They hear what Rush Limbaugh is saying and see Republicans pray at his alter.

Blacks have been there before.....little wonder only 10% support Republicans

 

[Stephanie]

Unfortunately they listened to the propaganda fed to them year after year about how Democrats CARE MORE. what has it got them?

Well, it got rid of shit like this...

and this...

Oh, yeah, first black guy elected President? A Democrat!

yeah, all happened with the help of Republicans, but you all can leave that out

 

[JoeB131]

Unfortunately they listened to the propaganda fed to them year after year about how Democrats CARE MORE. what has it got them?

Well, it got rid of shit like this...

and this...

Oh, yeah, first black guy elected President? A Democrat!

yeah, all happened with the help of Republicans, but you all can leave that out

Barry Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964...

What other republicans did is irrelevent.

As policy, the GOP stood up against black people when it counted.. And they are still doing it.

Which is why they only got 6% of the black vote this time.

 

[Cammmpbell]

Well, it got rid of shit like this...

and this...

Oh, yeah, first black guy elected President? A Democrat!

yeah, all happened with the help of Republicans, but you all can leave that out

Barry Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964...

What other republicans did is irrelevent.

As policy, the GOP stood up against black people when it counted.. And they are still doing it.

Which is why they only got 6% of the black vote this time.

OK.....we've got that one covered. What was it that caused over 70% of Latinos to vote Democrat?

 

[Stephanie]

Well, it got rid of shit like this...

and this...

Oh, yeah, first black guy elected President? A Democrat!

yeah, all happened with the help of Republicans, but you all can leave that out

Barry Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964...

What other republicans did is irrelevent.

As policy, the GOP stood up against black people when it counted.. And they are still doing it.

Which is why they only got 6% of the black vote this time.

You are a liar..
but whatever..let them vote Democrat they have nothing more to show for it, except to used as political pawns by you generous Democrats

 

[Cammmpbell]

yeah, all happened with the help of Republicans, but you all can leave that out

Barry Goldwater opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964...

What other republicans did is irrelevent.

As policy, the GOP stood up against black people when it counted.. And they are still doing it.

Which is why they only got 6% of the black vote this time.

You are a liar..
but whatever..let them vote Democrat they have nothing more to show for it, except to used as political pawns by you generous Democrats

"I call for effort, courage, sacrifice, devotion. Granting the love of freedom, all of these are possible. And the love of freedom is still fierce and steady in the nation today ~Franklin Delano Roosevelt~ June 10, 1940

"I believe that this Nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to earth." ~John Fitzgerald Kennedy~ June 15, 1961

What the hell has a corporation sympathizer, caretaker of the wealthy Republican ever done that didn't guarantee profits for the rich?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

He won't argue that. He is Borg.

It's the same way they speak about black people...as if the Democrat party OWNS them and they are proud of it

it's horrible how they see people

Its not that Democrats own black people as much as that black people hate Republicans

and for a very good reason

...... they don't believe in big Government dependency and redistribution?